Lets hope Kevin Cash has a stroke and pulls his pitcher after 3 innings.
- GreatGigInTheSky

You do realize there’s a slight difference in the pitchers available to the two managers

You do realize there’s a slight difference in the pitchers available to the two managers
- Canada Cup

There really isn't.

There really isn't.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Ryu is as good as Glasnow?

Ryu is as good as Glasnow?
- Canada Cup

Is this a trick question or something?

There's no way...IMO...he can keep him and sign AP. Just doesn't work for the bottom 6.

Nylander and Dermott, and the very least have to go.

Johnsson next.

Andersen if needed after that.

And Kerfoot last....we need a decent 3C and if we can't replace him with something better, we have to keep him.


That's why I'm still sticking to 2RD....Gudas, Manson would be better than AP to me.

Trade Willy for Manson+ (maybe a gritty winger).

Rielly, Manson
Muzzin, Virtanen
Sandin, Gudas
Holl

That would be MUCH better than last season. Plus, we'd have some money for a Maroon or Simmonds to toughen up the rest of the line up.
- underhill14

Manson had 9 points in 50 games last season.

Is this a trick question or something?
- GreatGigInTheSky

NVM. I think we’re talking at cross purposes

So much for saving the ace for game 2.
Ryu has giving up 6 hits already
3-0 Tampa.

I really do. It probably means moving out a big piece like Nylander, but it can (and should) definitely be done.
- mjones242

Hopefully its not.

But we'll see.

So much for saving the ace for game 2.
Ryu has giving up 6 hits already
3-0 Tampa.
- Fakepartofme

Still a chance to recover.

Offense needs to get going to at least have a chance.

Bye bye Blue Jays

There's no way...IMO...he can keep him and sign AP. Just doesn't work for the bottom 6.

Nylander and Dermott, and the very least have to go.

Johnsson next.

Andersen if needed after that.

And Kerfoot last....we need a decent 3C and if we can't replace him with something better, we have to keep him.


That's why I'm still sticking to 2RD....Gudas, Manson would be better than AP to me.

Trade Willy for Manson+ (maybe a gritty winger).

Rielly, Manson
Muzzin, Virtanen
Sandin, Gudas
Holl

That would be MUCH better than last season. Plus, we'd have some money for a Maroon or Simmonds to toughen up the rest of the line up.
- underhill14

Willy for manson is a horrible trade...even with an addition.
I'd want a better dman

Still a chance to recover.

Offense needs to get going to at least have a chance.
- Leafs43

Ryu is getting lit up.

But yes, still early.
this team can and has put up a lot of runs in single innings.

Ryu is getting lit up.

But yes, still early.
this team can and has put up a lot of runs in single innings.
- Fakepartofme

Ya. But he could still recover (If given the chance).

I don't know how long his leash will be. If they let Ryu continue to struggle past the 2nd inning after they pulled Shoemaker after the 3rd yesterday...

Ya. But he could still recover (If given the chance).

I don't know how long his leash will be. If they let Ryu continue to struggle past the 2nd inning after they pulled Shoemaker after the 3rd yesterday...
- Leafs43

Bichette with another error

bases loaded.

Jesus

Edit: Instead of getting out of the inning Bichette's error loads bases and Ryu just gave up a grand slam.

They are done.

Ya. But he could still recover (If given the chance).

I don't know how long his leash will be. If they let Ryu continue to struggle past the 2nd inning after they pulled Shoemaker after the 3rd yesterday...
- Leafs43

Nope - no recovery. Pull him.

Bichette with another error

bases loaded.

Jesus
- Fakepartofme

Ya - Teammates need to pick up the pitcher there when he is struggling. Can't make that error.

Nope - no recovery. Pull him.
- Leafs43

He just gave a up a grand slam.

Garbage.

How bout a nice game of chess?


- 21peter

Considering who he's playing, he did well.

- gergeswillems

Id rather move out and make more changes

Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Robertson - Tavares - Barbanov
Mikheyev - Thornton - Ryan
Rodrigues - Spezza - Engvall

Add in some experience and just do 1yr cheaper deals for Thornton and Ryan

Teilly - Pietro
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Gudas
Use Marincrap to sit in the press box

Id rather move out and make more changes

Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Robertson - Tavares - Barbanov
Mikheyev - Thornton - Ryan
Rodrigues - Spezza - Engvall

Add in some experience and just do 1yr cheaper deals for Thornton and Ryan

Teilly - Pietro
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Gudas
Use Marincrap to sit in the press box
- Roadrunner75

Holy (frank), you high bro?

Considering who he's playing, he did well.
- The Shrike

Hammer can still play with the best in a single game. He's a regular commentator whenever Magnus plays a tourney. Elite geek

Id rather move out and make more changes

Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Robertson - Tavares - Barbanov
Mikheyev - Thornton - Ryan
Rodrigues - Spezza - Engvall

Add in some experience and just do 1yr cheaper deals for Thornton and Ryan

Teilly - Pietro
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Gudas
Use Marincrap to sit in the press box
- Roadrunner75

I'd like this to serve as textbook evidence as to why I'm so hesitant to sign AP.

We lose Nylander, our second line has a rookie and an international signing who hasn't played a game in the NHL. The bottom six is really at minimum 80% fringe nhlers and total has beens.

All to roll out a blueline that has AP, Gudas... Holl still in the top 4, and a 20 year old with 30 or so career games.

Pietrangelo doesn't save this lineup from getting killed by playing 25 minutes a night, the team is pot committed on the cap and his contract will hit a point of regression.

This is a disaster. 🤦‍♂️

Ya - Teammates need to pick up the pitcher there when he is struggling. Can't make that error.
- Leafs43

Team is still primarily a bunch of kids. They weren't suppose to be here and it's showing. 162 game season and they likely wouldn't have made it. This experience though will be a good learning curve for the future.
This young Jays club has a bright future but they do need some quality arms.

Team is still primarily a bunch of kids. They weren't suppose to be here and it's showing. 162 game season and they likely wouldn't have made it. This experience though will be a good learning curve for the future.
This young Jays club has a bright future but they do need some quality arms.
- NewfieStud

Give them two years

Id rather move out and make more changes

Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Robertson - Tavares - Barbanov
Mikheyev - Thornton - Ryan
Rodrigues - Spezza - Engvall

Add in some experience and just do 1yr cheaper deals for Thornton and Ryan

Teilly - Pietro
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Gudas
Use Marincrap to sit in the press box
- Roadrunner75