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Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The carbon tax scam is a racist wealth redistribution scheme, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Sep 27 @ 8:46 PM ET
In the last week here I've read about:
Pat Laine
Patrick Laine
Patrik Laine

But spelling aside, I'm sure the rumours have legs. Any update on JVR + Ghost for Gaudreau. That seemed pretty legit. Maybe Philly is having second thoughts?

- Kooleus



That's a horrible trade, JVR has a brutal contract and Ghost isn't the same as when he broke into the league so his value has dropped significantly. Basically 2 contract throwaways that Philly is desperately trying to get rid of.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Sep 27 @ 8:54 PM ET
Now show age, one was worth more 5 years ago, when the other was 17
- Ross77

Relax Ross77 I simply asked the question!
I never said JG was worth more but the numbers were a shocker when I looked them up.
Last 2 seasons:
JG 152 GP, 54G, 103A, 157PTS
Laine 150GP, 58G, 55A, 113 PTS

I mean JG just turned 27 so its not like I compared Laine to Guy Lafleur.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Sep 27 @ 8:59 PM ET
To OTT
Alexander Georgiev

To WPG
Anthony Deangelo
Pavel Buchnevich
2020 1st (NYR via CAR) - 22nd overall pick
2020 2nd (OTT) - 33rd overall pick


To NYR
Patrik Laine
islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Sep 27 @ 9:02 PM ET
To OTT
Alexander Georgiev

To WPG
Anthony Deangelo
Pavel Buchnevich
2020 1st (NYR via CAR) - 22nd overall pick
2020 2nd (OTT) - 33rd overall pick
Get real the Jets would never do this horrible trade.

To NYR
Patrik Laine

- AlfieisKing

TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 27 @ 9:03 PM ET
To OTT
Alexander Georgiev

To WPG
Anthony Deangelo
Pavel Buchnevich
2020 1st (NYR via CAR) - 22nd overall pick
2020 2nd (OTT) - 33rd overall pick


To NYR
Patrik Laine

- AlfieisKing

DeAngelo and Buchnevich do not excite me. Good try though!
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Sep 27 @ 9:07 PM ET
To OTT
Alexander Georgiev

To WPG
Anthony Deangelo
Pavel Buchnevich
2020 1st (NYR via CAR) - 22nd overall pick
2020 2nd (OTT) - 33rd overall pick


To NYR
Patrik Laine

- AlfieisKing


Seems pretty fair to me but not sure the Jets would want the Deangelo baggage.
Rangers getting #33 for Georgiev ia a premium.
Quillanrocks
Location: Courtenay, BC
Joined: 07.22.2013

Sep 27 @ 9:31 PM ET
Subject change here . . . A question (or 3) for fellow Jets fans:

Who would you like to see the Jets draft at 10th overall?

Could anyone see them drafting D Braden Schneider (?) and, if so, perhaps trading down a few spots to do so . . . ?

Seth Jarvis would be intriguing here, also, but my preference would lean towards Schneider
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 27 @ 9:39 PM ET
Subject change here . . . A question (or 3) for fellow Jets fans:

Who would you like to see the Jets draft at 10th overall?

Could anyone see them drafting D Braden Schneider (?) and, if so, perhaps trading down a few spots to do so . . . ?

Seth Jarvis would be intriguing here, also, but my preference would lean towards Schneider

- Quillanrocks


My preference in order ( although I doubt the first two fall)
Rossi
Perfetti
Lundell
Jarvis

I would not want Schneider, I’d rather a potential Center in Round one
Norm.Peterson
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 06.19.2012

Sep 27 @ 9:45 PM ET
He is not going anywhere
More bs clickbait
This kid is staying in the Peg

Book it Dano

- Koots 33


But Dano is no longer with the Jets. I am so confused
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Sep 27 @ 9:59 PM ET
Shiefele, Wheeler, connor, Ehlers are all locked up long term. How many forwards can one team pay over 6 million?
A team needs balance and can not spend all its cap on forwards, see Leafs.
Do not over think or assume off ice issues, that would be a mistake.

Also, 1/5 first round picks bust!!! So yes, he is absolutely worth 2 first rounders plus, cause it’s far more likely Laine scores over 500 goals in the NHL than it is the 2 first rounders are even top 6 players

- Ross77


6 Mil? Leafs have a bushel at 10+
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Sep 27 @ 10:00 PM ET
He is worth more than that! I am thinking a 2C, top 4D and two first round picks!
- TheUltimateJet


You need to find a team willing to part with that. Good luck.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Sep 27 @ 10:08 PM ET
Lots of offensive players have done exceptionally well under Trotz. Name me one that has suffered.
- TheUltimateJet



Laine is not defensively responsible.
I know Ovi bought into Trotz's system, but do you think "Pat " would???
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Sep 27 @ 10:26 PM ET
Personally I'd rather the Flyers target Vesalainen over Laine.

Ghost and 2020 2nd for Vesalainen.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 27 @ 10:31 PM ET
You need to find a team willing to part with that. Good luck.
- Nasty_Duck


I think New Jersey would make the ideal trade partner as I previously posted.
jjonah
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Sep 27 @ 10:45 PM ET
Jets have zero interest in Nolan Patrick, hearing that his return is not a sure thing
firelarry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Silver Creek, NY
Joined: 07.05.2012

Sep 27 @ 10:45 PM ET
Not bad but nobody will take Okposo so add Olofsson and this happens.
- joegreif17

Sabres won’t trade Olofsson but the jets need defense more than anything so Risto 2020 2nd 2021 1st and either will borgen or Ryan Johnson. They can then use their picks to acquire a young forward.
Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The carbon tax scam is a racist wealth redistribution scheme, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Sep 27 @ 10:58 PM ET
My preference in order ( although I doubt the first two fall)
Rossi
Perfetti
Lundell
Jarvis

I would not want Schneider, I’d rather a potential Center in Round one

- Ross77



I'm sure Scheifs would love a defensive stalwart like Philly Danault behind him, can't tell me Paul Maurice wouldn't love a better defensively and more offensively capable player than Lowry in his 2 hole.



Burnt_juice
Joined: 07.22.2018

Sep 27 @ 11:07 PM ET
The Jets are known for being very tight lipped about trades. The Laine “availability” is a distraction or misdirection of some sort.

Contract negotiation tactic? “We don’t want to pay you $XXm, so we’ll trade you if you won’t be reasonable”. Not likely.

I think they are putting all eyes on a big fish to allow them an opportunity to work a smaller but significant move under the guise that Aldine won’t be there soon.

Keep other teams distracted and wasting time trying to find a deal, having them “sleep in” on free agents.

Lastly, expansion is on their mind. If they think they’ll have more to protect than they can, perhaps they make a trade to gain prospects who are exempt.

The last and first ideas are unlikely. I’m curious to find out what they are REALLY up to.
ger68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: palatine, IL
Joined: 02.19.2012

Sep 27 @ 11:24 PM ET
Depends on the team Colorado yes.
Napolean-Mennonite
Location: MB
Joined: 01.30.2020

Sep 27 @ 11:25 PM ET
The Jets are known for being very tight lipped about trades. The Laine “availability” is a distraction or misdirection of some sort.

Contract negotiation tactic? “We don’t want to pay you $XXm, so we’ll trade you if you won’t be reasonable”. Not likely.

I think they are putting all eyes on a big fish to allow them an opportunity to work a smaller but significant move under the guise that Aldine won’t be there soon.

Keep other teams distracted and wasting time trying to find a deal, having them “sleep in” on free agents.

Lastly, expansion is on their mind. If they think they’ll have more to protect than they can, perhaps they make a trade to gain prospects who are exempt.

The last and first ideas are unlikely. I’m curious to find out what they are REALLY up to.

- Burnt_juice


I was going to post a similar statement. I don't see the Jets trading Laine at this point when Chevy kept players like Trouba until he was almost out of RFA years. You don't give up on 22 year old 40 goal scorers who you have RFA term. The Jets have tonnes of cap room and can take advantage of teams like Tampa Bay that close to the ceiling needing space that will not be trading inside their conference.

If the Jets were ever to want to trade, the smartest move would be after an expansion rather than taking surplus players. If you trade Laine in the off season and you're just increasing the value of players that are exposed in the expansion draft. Any good GM would want players that are staying for term that you don't risk losing after 1 season.

When you consider the age of Scheifele and Wheeler, I don't see teams handing over young players that are expansion exempt that would fit into a top 2 center and top 4 defencemen plus change. The modern NHL does not have GMs that will give the farm like Philly did for Eric Lindros. This just seems like TSN and Sportsnet creating a news story to get us hockey nerds speculating on possible trade scenarios.
RubberBiscuitz
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.12.2011

Sep 27 @ 11:50 PM ET
Well after much thought, I think the most fair trade for Laine is the following:

To NJ: Patrik Laine, Adam Lowry, 2021 lottery protected first round pick (stipulation being that if the pick is in the lottery, than the Devils get the 2022 first round pick)

To WPG: Nico Hischer, PK Subban, #18 & #20 overall picks


Great trade for both teams!

- TheUltimateJet

You thought wrong
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 27 @ 11:55 PM ET
No
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 27 @ 11:56 PM ET
He is worth more than that! I am thinking a 2C, top 4D and two first round picks!
- TheUltimateJet

Lol
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 28 @ 12:02 AM ET
Lol
- Mentalorgasm5

Lol
i'mjustafan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 05.15.2007

Sep 28 @ 12:04 AM ET
short answer: no

long answer: hell no
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