Good interview with Friedman:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...-leafs-will-conversation/

Go to the 15 minute mark, where he states that some owners don't want a season next year if there are no fans.
- Atomic Wedgie

So how does that work with bonuses? I know that people were saying bonuses still get paid out if there is a lockout - so my assumption would be that bonuses would still be paid out if a season is cancelled.

Is any goalie the Leafs get really that much better than Freddy is? Like say Matt Murray for example? Kuemper gets hurt quite a bit. Goalies are so up and down. It's an inexact science forecasting how good or bad they'll play from one season to the next. Look at Binnington. He wins the Cup. Gets a big contract extension and then poops the bed in the playoffs.

Is Vegas willing to retain? What's going on with Lehner?
- mjones242

My comment was based on him apparently being bought out.

No thank you.
- MaximusAurelius

You find the Leafs boring and aren't entertained when you watch them.

Why do you care who plays?

since they do not have a bad contract that would necessitate a buyout

Clarification: ...the leafs have lots of bad contracts just not any that are worth buying out

My comment was based on him apparently being bought out.
- Leafs43

Not sure if Vegas would want to go down that road. They'd be paying out between 2-3M for the next 4 years.

Is any goalie the Leafs get really that much better than Freddy is? Like say Matt Murray for example? Kuemper gets hurt quite a bit. Goalies are so up and down. It's an inexact science forecasting how good or bad they'll play from one season to the next. Look at Binnington. He wins the Cup. Gets a big contract extension and then poops the bed in the playoffs.
- gergeswillems

for me, you only go that route if you need to make space.
spending more than 5 mil on a goalie is just a bad gamble..for the reasons you stated.

If Corey Schneider would be bought out, and Leafs indeed want to move on from Andersen, I wouldn't mind Leafs taking a gamble on him as one of two new goalies.

Korpisalo-Schneider would be a decent enough duo .

Who's the better goalie Bingo - who do you prefer on the Canes?

Freddie or Darcy?

So how does that work with bonuses? I know that people were saying bonuses still get paid out if there is a lockout - so my assumption would be that bonuses would still be paid out if a season is cancelled.
- Leafs43

It's a great question.

Bonuses are the same as regular payments - subject to escrow.

There is much speculation that players will be asking for the big bonuses in years 3-4, so that there will be less clawback.

But I'm a little unsure what happens if there is no season whatsoever. In theory, players wouldn't make a penny, as the CBA states that their salaries are 50% of hockey-related revenues.

But the new CBA has some weird language that I can't quite decipher.

Freddie's defintely got value with only 1 mil owed in real money
best value out there (at least for 1 yr - that's his only downfall)

Who's the better goalie Bingo - who do you prefer on the Canes?

Freddie or Darcy?
- paulozz

Kuemper.

Noting against Freddie, I just think we can get Kuemper for less than what the Leafs are going to want for Andersen.

Ability wise they're pretty similar I think. Slight edge to Kuemper, but he has a harder time staying healthy

Kuemper.

Noting against Freddie, I just think we can get Kuemper for less than what the Leafs are going to want for Andersen.

Ability wise they're pretty similar I think. Slight edge to Kuemper, but he has a harder time staying healthy
- BINGO!

Kuemper has only played over 31 games once in his career.

He's not what the Leafs need. We can't afford to take that chance.

Kuemper has only played over 31 games once in his career.

He's not what the Leafs need. We can't afford to take that chance.
- Atomic Wedgie

WE now have a real 1B goalie in Campbell. The days of playing someone 65+ games are over

Gonna have to outbid us.
- BINGO!

No, we are just going to trade you Ander7en.

and you will like it.

It's a great question.

Bonuses are the same as regular payments - subject to escrow.

There is much speculation that players will be asking for the big bonuses in years 3-4, so that there will be less clawback.

But I'm a little unsure what happens if there is no season whatsoever. In theory, players wouldn't make a penny, as the CBA states that their salaries are 50% of hockey-related revenues.

But the new CBA has some weird language that I can't quite decipher.
- Atomic Wedgie

There must be some loophole to that - because I remember bonuses being all the rage because they were "lockout proof". I think bonuses would be paid out (subject to the 20% escrow and 10% withholding) if there was no season next year.

Kuemper has only played over 31 games once in his career.

He's not what the Leafs need. We can't afford to take that chance.
- Atomic Wedgie

Yeah you don't want to roll the dice on that guy without having somebody else you KNOW you can platoon him with.

Speculation is that Arizona would be interested in Reimer and a pick. (Because of Reimer's cap hit but less than a mill in actual cash owing). That would let the Canes still have Mrazek as a 1B. while only adding about $1 million in cap hit.

WE now have a real 1B goalie in Campbell. The days of playing someone 65+ games are over
- RogerRoeper

So, #1 tender salaries should drop as well ??

So, #1 tender salaries should drop as well ??
- bixll

Only because the cap is probably flat for a couple years.

But yeah I think the league is starting to figure out that most goalies are about the same over the long haul.

Only because the cap is probably flat for a couple years.

But yeah I think the league is starting to figure out that most goalies are about the same over the long haul.
- BINGO!

nothing can be further away from the truth

(from last blog thread)


I'm not quite as sold on Georgiev as some. He's not especially big for a tender and his numbers haven't been too impressive.

Still young though and with upside... but I'd prefer Kuemper/Elvis/Korp.

Raanta is smallish and seems to be injury prone, so I would definitely pass on him.
- mjones242

I thought the Rangers were going to buy out Lundqvuist. Would you take a chance on him?

Only because the cap is probably flat for a couple years.

But yeah I think the league is starting to figure out that most goalies are about the same over the long haul.
- BINGO!

How are we on the Andersen, Johnsson and Bracco for Mrazek and Pesce deal?

Yeah you don't want to roll the dice on that guy without having somebody else you KNOW you can platoon him with.

Speculation is that Arizona would be interested in Reimer and a pick. (Because of Reimer's cap hit but less than a mill in actual cash owing). That would let the Canes still have Mrazek as a 1B. while only adding about $1 million in cap hit.
- BINGO!

Kuemper to the Canes makes more sense I think. Reimer at 850k plus picks works for the Yotes and Kuemper's 4.5 AAV works for the Canes better than the Leafs.

The 500k savings isn't what KD is looking for unless the Yotes are willing to eat salary.

Kuemper to the Canes makes more sense I think. Reimer at 850k plus picks works for the Yotes and Kuemper's 4.5 AAV works for the Canes better than the Leafs.

The 500k savings isn't what KD is looking for unless the Yotes are willing to eat salary.
- The Law

I think Dubas realizes that it is going to be really hard to get a goalie as good as Andersen for under $4.5M

Is any goalie the Leafs get really that much better than Freddy is? Like say Matt Murray for example? Kuemper gets hurt quite a bit. Goalies are so up and down. It's an inexact science forecasting how good or bad they'll play from one season to the next. Look at Binnington. He wins the Cup. Gets a big contract extension and then poops the bed in the playoffs.
- gergeswillems

There’s likely to be lots of back to back games next year so 1 and 1(b) is the way to go. We have the (b).

With the glut on the market we can’t expect a huge return for Freddie. The $1M salary means we’ll be able to move him easily but it won’t be for a ransom.

The glut also means getting a comparable replacement cheap. Since it’s goalies, nobody really knows how they play next year.