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Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

Sep 25 @ 8:04 PM ET
Obviously, but that's not the point. Blah blah it's a business, but there should be an aspect of humanity to it. Just a tiny bit; when your employees are public figures it becomes a different kind of business. It's not like they really plan on competing, so just keep him to hit the cap floor and buy him out next year. See if a sober year makes any difference. It's a bad look for the owner, the guy who wanted to be "the saviour" of the city a few years back.
- cnatch


Perhaps writing a poem about your feelings will help.
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Sep 25 @ 8:50 PM ET
okay dude
- twiztedmike


Well played
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Sep 25 @ 8:59 PM ET
Well played
- Crushers68


I thought you were totally on point with that.


xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 25 @ 11:28 PM ET
@Canada cup. Ryan isnt worth 7 mill but why buy him out now especially when you are 20 mill below cap floor before the buyout.......
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 25 @ 11:30 PM ET
It would be a major improvement, but far from the best in the NHL. Weber is a bionic man on the wrong side of the aging curve. Behind him and Petry, there isn't much. Krug would be a good add, but he's not going to tip the scales significantly. Look at his numbers this season - not exactly overwhelming and his performance in the postseason was lackluster. Pietrangelo is better, but he's going to cost the sun, moon, and stars. Weber's giant caphit is one thing, but add Pietrangelo to it and you have a ton of cash socked into two D-men, one of whom is almost ready to join AARP.

Best defense in the league right now:

Hedman, McDonagh, Sergachev, Cernak, Shattenkirk, and pick one.

Ok, it's a homer pick I know, but I'd rather that defense over Montreal's - even if they sign Krug or Pietrangelo or both.

- GalacticStone


You missed Luke Schenn
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Sep 26 @ 1:13 AM ET
Keep in mind, Shattenkirks gone, Cernak (RFA) Sergachev (RFA) are all free agents along with Ciirelli who'll be up for a big pay day. That D core will not look the same next year.
- Komisaurus Rex


Put Johnson and Gourde on waivers. Someone will take them, then they immediately have $10M in extra cap space.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Sep 26 @ 1:14 AM ET
@Canada cup. Ryan isnt worth 7 mill but why buy him out now especially when you are 20 mill below cap floor before the buyout.......
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Looming expansion draft with a NMC and required protection.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Sep 26 @ 1:33 AM ET
@Canada cup. Ryan isnt worth 7 mill but why buy him out now especially when you are 20 mill below cap floor before the buyout.......
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


You may not agree, but some owners don't have endless money. With no fans, parking, concessions, some of these owners are going to lose a fortune. Buying out Ryan saves the owner almost $4M in actual cash. There are also other ways to make the cap floor. You can find a guy with say a $5M cap hit but is only owed $2M in cash. Boom. Saves another $3M. Again, you may not like it. But that's the reality.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Sep 26 @ 3:17 AM ET
something tells me the Sens are about to get a goalie in the next 12 days
koarik91
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Hockey's capital, QC
Joined: 07.01.2006

Sep 26 @ 9:41 AM ET
Are we better on D than in years past? ... Yes I think so.
But Top 5 is really stretching it IMO.

We also have some good prospects coming but until they prove what they can do at the NHL level I prefer to reserve judgment.

- Garfield512


Habs D corps is ranked about 9-12 in the league right now. You can't even compare to Dallas, Tampa, Carolina, St-Louis, Nashville, Columbus, Philly. I'd put Colorado as well in front of them. Furthermore, there are other D core that are a lot more talented but doesn't have the same level of cohesion.

Montreal doesn't have an all-star unit but is set to make a really good core if and when they play with cohesion and follow the plan

Now, small issue right now would be for the 3rd pairing. You'll have a pair of 2 LHD with Romanov, Mete and Kulak. I'd chose Kulak and Romanov anytime of the day but we forget that Juulsen was having a good season and progression before getting injured.
WayneZ
New Jersey Devils
Location: Offseason champs yet again, VA
Joined: 01.28.2008

Sep 26 @ 10:25 AM ET
I want Hank in NJ. The pain it would cause those horrid Ranger fans to see their beloved King in NJ black and red would almost equal the agony I felt watching the Rangers win this year's lotto.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Sep 26 @ 10:43 AM ET
Keep in mind, Shattenkirks gone, Cernak (RFA) Sergachev (RFA) are all free agents along with Ciirelli who'll be up for a big pay day. That D core will not look the same next year.
- Komisaurus Rex


It would be ironic, that after trading away Sergachev, Montreal offers sheets him to something like 6 years @ 6M which would cost them a 1st and 3rd round pick. Would the Lightning match?
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 26 @ 11:39 AM ET
@Canada cup. Ryan isnt worth 7 mill but why buy him out now especially when you are 20 mill below cap floor before the buyout.......
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Ryan had a NMC and would have had to be protected in the expansion draft.....Ottawa didn't actually save that much money, it was just spread out over a longer period. i think this was much more a hockey move than a $$ move
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Sep 26 @ 11:41 AM ET
It would be ironic, that after trading away Sergachev, Montreal offers sheets him to something like 6 years @ 6M which would cost them a 1st and 3rd round pick. Would the Lightning match?
- boilermaker100


I believe it would be a 1st, 2nd and a 3rd. the max divisor is 5yrs......36 / 5 = 7.2

$7.2M would be the AAV on an offer sheet
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Sep 26 @ 11:50 AM ET
Ryan had a NMC and would have had to be protected in the expansion draft.....Ottawa didn't actually save that much money, it was just spread out over a longer period. i think this was much more a hockey move than a $$ move
- sensarmy_11


Don't confuse cap hit with cold hard cash. This saves the owner millions of actual dollars. As I said there are other ways to meet the cap floor without spending cash to the floor. If there are no fans then some teams will be making moves like this just to survive. Expansion draft is the other consideration. But this is about cash.
General Mokus
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 09.08.2020

Sep 26 @ 11:59 AM ET
Maybe there's a financial aspect I miss aside from the cap hit, but I don't understand buyouts sometimes. Wennberg for instance. You're telling me that rather than being on the hook for six seasons that they're not better off just retaining 50% and actually get some kind of return? I'm sure someone would take him at $2.45M.

And Fleury. Why buy him out? There's definitely takers at $3.5M and they're clean in two years rather than four.

Please, someone explain to me what financial implication that I may not be seeing in the form of actual pay, bonuses, etc...

- Rinosaur



I'm honestly still in the camp of giving him one more chance to get it together, then dealing him to Seattle if he still can't hang. He shows flashes of what he once was, but just has to put it back together. Maybe this is the year.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Sep 26 @ 12:14 PM ET
I want Hank in NJ. The pain it would cause those horrid Ranger fans to see their beloved King in NJ black and red would almost equal the agony I felt watching the Rangers win this year's lotto.
- WayneZ

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