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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 24 @ 8:04 PM ET
At least look into it.
- systemtool



he can have a PTO
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 24 @ 8:09 PM ET
he can have a PTO
- Aaron_85

So can you, cutie.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 24 @ 8:21 PM ET
I wonder what's wrong with being top heavy?


- gergeswillems


Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 24 @ 8:26 PM ET
Do it...

Leafs Trade William Nylander ($6.9M) to the Anaheim Ducks.
For
RHD Josh Manson ($4.1M), Ryan Kesler $6.8M) and Max Jones (ELC)

Anaheim does it to shed salary (Kesler making too much for owners to like – when he’s on LTIR) and they gain a potential superstar forward in Willie.


Leafs then trade Freddy Anderson ($5M) to Arizona (With maybe a pick or prospect)

For

Darcy Kuemper (4.5/2yrs), Jacob Chychrun ($4.6M/5yr)

Arizona does it to shed salary and they receive a starting goalie only earning $1M in salary this year.

Offer Petro $8-8.5 M

Hyman – Tavares – Marner
Johnson – Matthews – Mikehyev
Robertson– Kerfoot – Jones
Barabanov/Korshkev – Gauthier - Engvall

Reilly – Petro
Muzzin – Manson
Chychrun/Dermott – Holl/Sandin

Kuemper/Campbell

** Anderson has a NTC soooo... I dunno if that time in Zona' with Matthews during lockdown was enough to not include the yotes on his 10 team no trade list **

- Bleedz_Blue


gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 24 @ 8:26 PM ET
Wouldn't split up the core 4 yet...if Petro is going to be too expensive I would pass reluctantly and just go after one or two lesser defense by making space via Kerfoot, Anderson, Johnsson, Holl or Dermot......getting rid of Nylander or Marner would just have everyone saying down the road.....our offense is not strong enough
- Leafcup

GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 24 @ 8:31 PM ET

- gergeswillems


I like it.



Not a Holl in that lineup.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 24 @ 8:32 PM ET
I like it.



Not a Holl in that lineup.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 24 @ 8:32 PM ET

- gergeswillems



eww
Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 24 @ 8:35 PM ET
J
@Account4hockey
Elliotte Friedman says on ESPN1025 that he thinks Pietrangelo and STL will take one more run at getting a contract done but he doesn't think STL will budge on the signing bonuses that are very important to him. Feeling around the league is pessimistic about him re-signing
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 24 @ 8:37 PM ET
eww
- Steven_Seagull


Yeah, Dermott won't get $2M, he'll most likely get somewhere between $1M-$1.5M.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 24 @ 8:38 PM ET

- gergeswillems


gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 24 @ 8:38 PM ET
Yeah, Dermott won't get $2M, he'll most likely get somewhere between $1M-$1.5M.
- GreatGigInTheSky

How did Holl get 2 mil?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 24 @ 8:40 PM ET
How did Holl get 2 mil?
- gergeswillems


How did Holl get a 10 team no trade clause? EDIT: Also an inexplicable 3 year term?

Pure stupidity.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Sep 24 @ 8:42 PM ET
Yes to Laine!

Winnipeg wants a 2C and RHD

Nylander + Holl
Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 24 @ 8:43 PM ET
How did Holl get 2 mil?
- gergeswillems



How did Dekeyser get 5?
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 24 @ 8:43 PM ET
How did Holl get a 10 team no trade clause? EDIT: Also an inexplicable 3 year term?

Pure stupidity.

- GreatGigInTheSky

That's what I was basing the 2 mil for Dermott on.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 24 @ 8:44 PM ET
How did Dekeyser get 5?
- Steven_Seagull

I have no (frank)ing clue!
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 24 @ 8:44 PM ET
We'd need the LTIR relief to make it all work money-wise.

I believe there may be some LTIR repercussions i am currently unaware of though.
This is pie in the sky dreaming though, I don't know how the ducks value manson vs nylander... and I know Zona likes Kuemper and Chyrchun hence their current new contracts.. but they are stuck and I think a rookie interim GM like sullivan will want to please owners right now. Freddy would be a great replacement for this year for them to remain ... ahem.. competitive.

- Bleedz_Blue


How does LTIR help?

It actually hurts from what I’ve read.
Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 24 @ 8:45 PM ET
Yes to Laine!

Winnipeg wants a 2C and RHD

Nylander + Holl

- mr.sir



Why?
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 24 @ 8:47 PM ET
Why?
- Steven_Seagull

For all the power plays the Leafs don’t get.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 24 @ 8:48 PM ET
Why?
- Steven_Seagull


Leafs are collecting $10m players
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 24 @ 8:50 PM ET
Yes to Laine!

Winnipeg wants a 2C and RHD

Nylander + Holl

- mr.sir


Only reason I'd do it was if I'd then flip Laine somewhere else.

Trade him to Anaheim for the #6th pick in this draft and Manson and whatever else makes sense. Draft Drysdale or Askarov.

Also, I think Montreal might trade for Laine.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 24 @ 8:55 PM ET
Why are people so up in arms about Holl? Dude is the definition of a pleasant surprise... with the never ending poop fest in Toronto can we not just take a win and not female dog about it?

He's so far down on the list of bones to pick its crazy, would make as much sense to be on the daily complaining about Engvall. 🤦‍♂️
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 24 @ 8:56 PM ET
That's what I was basing the 2 mil for Dermott on.
- gergeswillems


He had major shoulder surgery last off season, so it slowed his progress down this past season.

I think Dermott will take less years and less CAP, because he'll need to. 2 years $1.25M.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 24 @ 8:56 PM ET
Leafs are collecting $10m players
- Garnie


Have no nightmare RFA situations on deck for the first time in a few years, gotta fill that void somehow. 🤷‍♂️
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