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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 25 @ 11:34 AM ET
why does what matter?
- senstroll

Winning our last three games.

winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 25 @ 11:36 AM ET
Until Lidstrom wins an Art Ross trophy, it's Orr.

It isn't even close, and that's not me showing old fart bias - I have foggy memories of Orr as a Blackhawk - none as a Bruin.

- Atomic Wedgie


It isn't close. There wasn't and likely never will be an equal. Best defender, best skater, wicked shot and would regularly skate around an entire team and either score or have three guys on him and set up a tap in.




Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 25 @ 11:36 AM ET
man how are the sens going to make the lower cap#?

also lol at sens buying out Ryan after the feel good story and comeback

- senstroll

I have no problem with this.

Kuddos to Ryan - man, that kid has faced adversity throughout his life - but the NHL is a business.

I wish the Leafs over the years had been more cut-throat.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 25 @ 11:37 AM ET
I loved that Dolphins team. The fake spike play.


https://www.nfl.com/100/o...als/100-greatest/plays-38

- Canada Cup

Against the Jets. Classic Marino! 👍
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 25 @ 11:41 AM ET
It isn't close. There wasn't and likely never will be an equal. Best defender, best skater, wicked shot and would regularly skate around an entire team and either score or have three guys on him and set up a tap in.


- winsix

Take this story with a huge grain of salt, but I was once listening to the FAN590 (they were having this debate) and a guy phoned in - his story was that he once witnessed Orr (as an Oshawa General) lose his glove in the neutral zone while skating to break up the other team's rush. He stripped the other team of the puck, skated behind his own net, then skated through the entire team -PICKED UP HIS FRANKING GLOVE IN THE NEUTRAL ZONE WHILE STILL CARRYING THE PUCK - and then skated in and scored.

Best I've ever seen is Gretzky, with Lemieux a close second. Nobody else comes close.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 25 @ 11:42 AM ET
It isn't close. There wasn't and likely never will be an equal. Best defender, best skater, wicked shot and would regularly skate around an entire team and either score or have three guys on him and set up a tap in.


- winsix

Love the video.

The skates were so bad.

The sticks were so bad.

The goalies - and their equipment - were so bad.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 25 @ 11:44 AM ET
man how are the sens going to make the lower cap#?

also lol at sens buying out Ryan after the feel good story and comeback

- senstroll


Add Ryan to the possible low cost 3rd/4th line options for the Leafs.

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 25 @ 11:45 AM ET
Take this story with a huge grain of salt, but I was once listening to the FAN590 (they were having this debate) and a guy phoned in - his story that he once witnessed Orr (as an Oshawa General) lose his glove in the neutral zone while skating to break up the other team's rush. He stripped the other team of the puck, skated behind his own net, then skated through the entire team -PICKED UP HIS FRANKING GLOVE IN THE NEUTRAL ZONE WHILE STILL CARRYING THE PUCK - and then skated in and scored.

Best I've ever seen is Gretzky, with Lemieux a close second. Nobody else comes close.

- Atomic Wedgie


That's (frank)ing legendary.

Lemieux is the greatest player I've seen play. Despite the injuries he just so much better than everyone else.

It's a shame both him and Orr couldn't stay healthy and make their career even more awesome.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 25 @ 11:46 AM ET
Add Ryan to the possible low cost 3rd/4th line options for the Leafs.
- Leafs43

Why Ryan if we already have Nylander?
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 25 @ 11:46 AM ET
I have no problem with this.

Kuddos to Ryan - man, that kid has faced adversity throughout his life - but the NHL is a business.

I wish the Leafs over the years had been more cut-throat.

- Atomic Wedgie


His salary is 5.5 million. Pretty hefty savings for that team.

Also, wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to play somewhere else.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 25 @ 11:46 AM ET
Add Ryan to the possible low cost 3rd/4th line options for the Leafs.
- Leafs43

Upon further reflection, this is probably a good thing for Ryan.

He still gets 2/3 of his money, spread out over the next 4 years, so probably better from a tax perspective.

And now he can go sign a contract that won't be a giant weight on his shoulders - he can sign a modest one and meet expectations.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 25 @ 11:48 AM ET
Why Ryan if we already have Nylander?
- MaximusAurelius


Because Nylander isn't "low cost"

Try to keep up.

MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 25 @ 11:51 AM ET
Because Nylander isn't "low cost"

Try to keep up.

- Leafs43

Nylander will follow Ryan's footsteps: from 'promising young scoring first line winger' while playing with elite linemates to a cap burden soon to be bought out
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 25 @ 11:52 AM ET
His salary is 5.5 million. Pretty hefty savings for that team.

Also, wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to play somewhere else.

- Aaron_85

I wish him well, but unless he's willing to play for a league minimum, I don't want the Leafs touching him.

We were all thrilled when he got the hat trick.

But the harsh reality is that in his 8 game return, he got 3 goals and an assist.

There are better options out there.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 25 @ 11:53 AM ET
Nylander will follow Ryan's footsteps: from 'promising young scoring first line winger' while playing with elite linemates to a cap burden soon to be bought out
- MaximusAurelius

Luckily we'll have Muzzin on LTIR for cap relief.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 25 @ 11:54 AM ET
Nylander will follow Ryan's footsteps: from 'promising young scoring first line winger' while playing with elite linemates to a cap burden soon to be bought out
- MaximusAurelius


how long does it take you to think of poop like this?
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 25 @ 11:54 AM ET
Luckily we'll have Muzzin on LTIR for cap relief.
- Atomic Wedgie

Hasn't played a game yet...
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 25 @ 11:57 AM ET
how long does it take you to think of poop like this?
- PatC80

0.3 seconds - it's quite obvious.
Read back the opinions on Bobby Ryan in his last year with Anaheim and on how 'lots of teams supposedly were interested in him'.
(I think ek was pitching the Philly link, NJ was spoken of as well plus other teams.)
'Elite scoring winger' was used to describe him.
He's had some bad luck, but after Ana it was clear his previous success was mainly thanks to playing om a line with Getzlaf and Perry
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 25 @ 11:59 AM ET
0.3 seconds - it's quite obvious.
Read back the opinions on Bobby Ryan in his last year with Anaheim and on how 'lots of teams supposedly were interested in him'.
(I think ek was pitching the Philly link, NJ was spoken of as well plus other teams.)
'Elite scoring winger' was used to describe him.
He's had some bad luck, but after Ana it was clear his previous success was mainly thanks to playing om a line with Getzlaf and Perry

- MaximusAurelius


Yeah, that makes sense.. I didn't take you for someone that actually thinks things through.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM ET
Hasn't played a game yet...
- MaximusAurelius

Hard to play a game when you have died.

Twice.

I'm always puzzled by people like you - you made a stupid statement on an anonymous hockey website. You were proven to be an imbecile.

What is stopping you from admitting it and moving on?

FFS, I still tell the story about how I thought Mark Bell was the key to the Toskala trade. My ego isn't tied up in impressing a bunch of people I will never meet.

I was wrong about Mark Bell. I was wrong about Hutchinson. I was wrong more times than I was right. I'm big enough to laugh about it.

But sure, Muzzin will never play again.

When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing you should do is stop digging.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 25 @ 12:01 PM ET
Winning our last three games.
- Atomic Wedgie



they could still move ahead of the yankees..better seeding...and finishing ahead of the yankees...the poopty stupid spend a billion dollars yankees
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 25 @ 12:02 PM ET
I have no problem with this.

Kuddos to Ryan - man, that kid has faced adversity throughout his life - but the NHL is a business.

I wish the Leafs over the years had been more cut-throat.

- Atomic Wedgie



ye but the sens..who had like 1 good thing happen to them in 3 years (most thier own doing)...so lol at them
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 25 @ 12:04 PM ET
Nylander will follow Ryan's footsteps: from 'promising young scoring first line winger' while playing with elite linemates to a cap burden soon to be bought out
- MaximusAurelius



if you ignore the off ice stuff that probably contributed to his on ice decline....maybe Willie can avoid that
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 25 @ 12:06 PM ET
Hasn't played a game yet...
- MaximusAurelius


Crosby hasn't played in over a month either.

I heard he has slipped and I will now declare (without any evidence) that there is a 50/50 shot he never plays in the NHL ever again - best case scenario he is back in three months.

If anyone points out my clear bullsh!t, I will pivot to "he hasn't played a game yet". When he inevitably plays a game when the NHL starts up - I will claim I said he would be out at least 3 months - and therefore I was right.



MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 25 @ 12:08 PM ET
Crosby hasn't played in over a month either.

I heard he has slipped and I will now declare (without any evidence) that there is a 50/50 shot he never plays in the NHL ever again - best case scenario he is back in three months.

If anyone points out my clear bullsh!t, I will pivot to "he hasn't played a game yet". When he inevitably plays a game when the NHL starts up - I will claim I said he would be out at least 3 months - and therefore I was right.

- Leafs43

Exactly
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