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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 2:22 PM ET
Fixed
- Guile


Yes, but you can scrape it off and put it on toast. It's quite delicious.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 25 @ 2:22 PM ET
Vegas would be infinitely better to just retain 50% and trade him

They're looking at dead money 2.31 Million x 4 years buyout vs 3.5 Million x 2 trade

They would find a taker for Flower at 2 years @ 3.5 easy

- TheGame316



...GMJR knocks on door like a Jehovahs witness...
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 25 @ 2:22 PM ET
I though it's a flat cap for two years and then back to normal, or am I mistaken?
- Rinosaur


back to normal might mean it drops, unfortunately. it's directly tied to revenue of the previous year, so if revenue goes down, the cap goes down.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 25 @ 2:22 PM ET
I though it's a flat cap for two years and then back to normal, or am I mistaken?
- Rinosaur


Normal meaning based on regular revenue calculations, which may be down after a 2 year economic depression
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
I though it's a flat cap for two years and then back to normal, or am I mistaken?
- Rinosaur


Flat cap for 2 years and then based on HRR.

If there's no/limited gate/parking/concession due to no fans, what direction does the HRR go?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
back to normal might mean it drops, unfortunately.
- BINGO!


Gotcha, well yeah, maybe not so great, but then again they have Weber's contract which is really going to hurt.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
Four years.
- Rinosaur


4 year extension. He is under contract for 5 years as of now
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
Flat cap for 2 years and then based on HRR.

If there's no/limited gate/parking/concession due to no fans, what direction does the HRR go?

- jmatchett383


I mean, I'm hoping the 21/22 season will have fans back in the stands.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
Gotcha, well yeah, maybe not so great, but then again they have Weber's contract which is really going to hurt.
- Rinosaur


Yeah, but his beard is worth at least $3M regardless of the cap.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 25 @ 2:25 PM ET
Cherry Pop-Tarts are an underrated flavor. S'mores is still the GOAT, but Cherry is solid.
- j.boyd919


Always loved wild berry and raspberry
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 25 @ 2:25 PM ET

Matt Vensel
@mattvensel
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Patric Hornqvist on waiving his no-trade clause to join the Panthers: "When I found out Pittsburgh didn't want me and Florida wanted me, it was an easy choice.


Gotta feel for the guy a bit.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 25 @ 2:26 PM ET
He hasn't lost a step and once the cap starts going up in the last two years of his contract it won't look so bad.
- Rinosaur

Father Time gives no poops about the salary cap.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 2:26 PM ET
I mean, I'm hoping the 21/22 season will have fans back in the stands.
- Rinosaur


Yes, most likely. But maybe not at the same capacity. And with millions losing their jobs, that's a smaller pool of people who would buy tickets. Same with team merch, TV subscriptions, etc.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 25 @ 2:27 PM ET
Four years.
- Rinosaur

Plus this year.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 25 @ 2:28 PM ET
if we get Bobby Ryan, we should petition to get Pierre McGuire back on the air to hear "Bobby Ryan from Cherry Hill New Jersey" 15 times a night.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 25 @ 2:28 PM ET
if we get Bobby Ryan, we should petition to get Pierre McGuire back on the air to hear "Bobby Ryan from Cherry Hill New Jersey" 15 times a night.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


I almost moved to Cherry Hill this year actually.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 25 @ 2:29 PM ET
if we get Bobby Ryan, we should petition to get Pierre McGuire back on the air to hear "Bobby Ryan from Cherry Hill New Jersey" 15 times a night.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

If you watch any feed that includes edzo doc or Pierre you’re doing it wrong.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 2:29 PM ET
Father Time gives no poops about the salary cap.
- Feds91Stammer


Father Time almost lost one.

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 25 @ 2:29 PM ET
I almost moved to Cherry Hill this year actually.
- Rinosaur

What happened? Not liberal enough for you?
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 25 @ 2:29 PM ET
Gotta feel for the guy a bit.
- Rinosaur


That's how it goes for most NTC/NMC unless the players make it known in advance they have no intention of ever moving (in which they just don't come up in trade discussions)

It's got to be awkward if the team asks you to waive and you block it. That's them pretty much telling you that you aren't in their plans and to expect less playing time, less PP time, and potentially healthy scratches

Doesn't bode well if you intend on getting another contract in the future
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 2:30 PM ET
What happened? Not liberal enough for you?
- Feds91Stammer


Super liberal, right up there with West Virginia and Texas.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 25 @ 2:30 PM ET
Gotta feel for the guy a bit.
- Rinosaur


the complicated side of No Trade Clauses... its hard to stay when you know theyre trying to trade you. thats a poopty situation and i can see why players waive their no trade clauses if the destination is at least decent.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 25 @ 2:31 PM ET
What happened? Not liberal enough for you?
- Feds91Stammer

too many wops
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 25 @ 2:31 PM ET
Yes, most likely. But maybe not at the same capacity. And with millions losing their jobs, that's a smaller pool of people who would buy tickets. Same with team merch, TV subscriptions, etc.
- jmatchett383


Exactly

Even if the economic recovery happens smoothly, this kinda thing tend to be a wakeup call for some and they squeeze their wallets a little tighter when it comes to $200 hockey tickets, $15 beers and $40 parking for a couple of hours of entertainment
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 25 @ 2:32 PM ET
What happened? Not liberal enough for you?
- Feds91Stammer


I still love that you think I'm a liberal.

But no, I wanted to be closer to the beach for now until I decide where I want to buy.
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