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YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 25 @ 12:21 PM ET
They do need to spend 22 million in order to get to the cap...
- Ben_66


I wonder if they'd take JJ and a 3rd in exchange for a 7th or something. I'd say yes if they weren't so cheap.

It would certainly be nice to get something valuable back for Murray tho.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 25 @ 12:24 PM ET
Random thought...

Let's say one of Dumo or Pettersson are most definitely getting moved. If an extension can be pre-negotiated, would you move either one to NJ for Palmieri +? Does it make sense for both teams? Only one team? No teams?

- Rinosaur


In a vacuum, I'd trade Pettersson for Palmieri. He'd be great for the PP and even though he's not really a need anymore after the Kapanen deal... giving McCann one of Kapanen/Rust/Palmieri might solve the 3rd line problem as well.

Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 25 @ 12:30 PM ET
In a vacuum, I'd trade Pettersson for Palmieri. He'd be great for the PP and even though he's not really a need anymore after the Kapanen deal... giving McCann one of Kapanen/Rust/Palmieri might solve the 3rd line problem as well.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


RW is definitely a need right now with Hornqvist gone. If Scevior is our 3rd line RW then we are in trouble. We also don't know how well Kap is going to do in the top-six.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 25 @ 12:30 PM ET
Can we please talk about the big breaking news? Bobby Ryan is being bought out.

Boom! Wow.

Palmer's dream will finally become a reality.

- acdc1206


Is Jagr available?

ryan crosby jagr wow
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 25 @ 12:35 PM ET
EK is reporting Vegas may actually buy out Fleury. If that happens, well, you know what comes next.
- Rinosaur


Vegas would be infinitely better to just retain 50% and trade him

They're looking at dead money 2.31 Million x 4 years buyout vs 3.5 Million x 2 trade

They would find a taker for Flower at 2 years @ 3.5 easy
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

Sep 25 @ 12:35 PM ET
The thing that concerns me most about dumping JJ off on another team is what Rutherford will give up to make it happen. He has a habit of trying to fix his mistakes by making other ones, ultimately compounding the first mistakes.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 25 @ 12:37 PM ET
Random thought...

Let's say one of Dumo or Pettersson are most definitely getting moved. If an extension can be pre-negotiated, would you move either one to NJ for Palmieri +? Does it make sense for both teams? Only one team? No teams?

- Rinosaur

Well your defense would suck so does it really matter who comes back to pit?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 25 @ 12:37 PM ET
Vegas would be infinitely better to just retain 50% and trade him

They're looking at dead money 2.31 Million x 4 years buyout vs 3.5 Million x 2 trade

They would find a taker for Flower at 2 years @ 3.5 easy

- TheGame316


You would think so.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 25 @ 12:38 PM ET
The thing that concerns me most about dumping JJ off on another team is what Rutherford will give up to make it happen. He has a habit of trying to fix his mistakes by making other ones, ultimately compounding the first mistakes.
- PghPens668771

Well the good news is you don’t have any valuable assets left to give up. The bad news is JJ isn’t going anywhere.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 25 @ 12:39 PM ET
Doesnt he have injury concerns? And alcohol-ism concerns?

Not trying to be a Richard... genuinely curious... and that would probably make this risk greater than the potential reward

- YouMeAndDupuis9


He's "recovered" from the alcolohism, but those guys are only 1 beer away

He'll never command big money or term . Ideal 1 year 1 Million dollar guy
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 25 @ 12:39 PM ET
Well your defense would suck so does it really matter who comes back to pit?
- Feds91Stammer


True. Sad, but very true. I guess you still want to maximize return as much as possible.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 25 @ 12:41 PM ET
True. Sad, but very true. I guess you still want to maximize return as much as possible.
- Rinosaur

Just make sure enough money comes back in the return so JR can’t sign Tanev.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 25 @ 12:42 PM ET
They do need to spend 22 million in order to get to the cap...
- Ben_66



Thats very interesting...
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 25 @ 12:44 PM ET
Just make sure enough money comes back in the return so JR can’t sign Tanev.
- Feds91Stammer


No don't worry about Tanev. It's sounding more and more like Byfuglien is coming back to the NHL.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Sep 25 @ 12:44 PM ET
bobby ryan buyout

sidney winger

right handed power play

wow
Beatnic57
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.08.2019

Sep 25 @ 12:45 PM ET
https://www.google.com/am...or-patric-hornqvist-trade

A glass half full read on this trade
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 25 @ 12:45 PM ET
Graeme Nichols (Sens/The Athletic)
@6thSens
·
57m
Buying out Bobby Ryan is pretty interesting. Not only does it open a large roster spot, it may show that the org is willing to eat bad money to make the team's future outlook better. Send all those Patrick Marleau-like trade offers to Dorion.


JJ is going to the capital city...
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 25 @ 12:47 PM ET
No don't worry about Tanev. It's sounding more and more like Byfuglien is coming back to the NHL.
- Rinosaur


If he's in game shape and cheap I want him.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 25 @ 12:48 PM ET
bobby ryan buyout

sidney winger

right handed power play

wow

- Ryan_Wilson

(frank) yeah. This amped me up.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 25 @ 12:48 PM ET
Graeme Nichols (Sens/The Athletic)
@6thSens
·
57m
Buying out Bobby Ryan is pretty interesting. Not only does it open a large roster spot, it may show that the org is willing to eat bad money to make the team's future outlook better. Send all those Patrick Marleau-like trade offers to Dorion.


JJ is going to the capital city...

- MattStrat



They do need dmen.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 25 @ 12:49 PM ET
bobby ryan buyout

sidney winger

right handed power play

wow

- Ryan_Wilson


hahaha
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 25 @ 12:50 PM ET
bobby ryan buyout

sidney winger

right handed power play

wow

- Ryan_Wilson

Who the fook are you
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Sep 25 @ 12:53 PM ET
bobby ryan buyout

sidney winger

right handed power play

wow

- Ryan_Wilson



RW just posted in his own blog comments... first time in... 4 years?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 25 @ 12:54 PM ET
Doesnt he have injury concerns? And alcohol-ism concerns?

Not trying to be a Richard... genuinely curious... and that would probably make this risk greater than the potential reward

- YouMeAndDupuis9


For the record, if you had left it at "Doesnt he have injury concerns? And alcohol-ism concerns?" I'd never think you were being a Richard hahaha

As far as I know he conquered the personal probs but I agree, cause for concern no matter what. Im in close proximity to some people I care about with addictions in my life and people can go clean for years then wham their back to the vices out of nowhere.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 25 @ 12:55 PM ET
RW just posted in his own blog comments... first time in... 4 years?
- Guile

And it was a meme!
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