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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 22 @ 9:37 AM ET
Ek knows that his rumours are irrelevant to his business model so he doesn’t even try.
- Canada Cup

i dont what he does, but i would think trying to get a few rumours correcr would help his business model.
But as long as he gets traffic on the site, that's all that matters i guess.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 22 @ 9:37 AM ET
No, I actually read the article that said the percentages were way down. That there are more positives because of the amount of testing. I believe it's over 47 thousand a day now. Only makes sense. If they tested 40 thousand in may and June there would have been a hell of a lot more positives.
- bobbyisno1



No doubt.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 22 @ 9:39 AM ET
Not a lot of tough guys left.
- AdamFrench



But, but , but ... they can all go hard.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 22 @ 9:41 AM ET
No, I actually read the article that said the percentages were way down. That there are more positives because of the amount of testing. I believe it's over 47 thousand a day now. Only makes sense. If they tested 40 thousand in may and June there would have been a hell of a lot more positives.
- bobbyisno1


Numbers will come back up in fall and winter - more people inside, air particles travel more easily in dry weather, school, people let their guards down, etc.

The question is really how much and how hard governments act to slow it down. If people respond responsibly and voluntary actions keep things in check, there is likely to be less needed. If not, we’re likely to see some kinds of closures. Hopefully, this time they can be more focused and shorter.

Remember, whatever increases we see happen from a base with the virus already in the community. That’s why the US is so (frank)ed. They have huge numbers and things are going to grow from there.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 22 @ 9:42 AM ET
No, I actually read the article that said the percentages were way down. That there are more positives because of the amount of testing. I believe it's over 47 thousand a day now. Only makes sense. If they tested 40 thousand in may and June there would have been a hell of a lot more positives.
- bobbyisno1


what you are saying is the same exact thing Trump was criticized for a few months ago: 'if we don't test, we don't have any cases'.

the number which is most relevant to look at (apart from ICU patients and deaths) is "test per case".

The test-per-case ratio tracks exactly what it sounds like: the number of tests being done divided by the confirmed cases. When the number drops too low it means an epidemic is likely out of control, since officials can no longer keep up with the demand for testing and see where new pockets of disease are spreading.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 22 @ 9:44 AM ET
Numbers will come back up in fall and winter - more people inside, air particles travel more easily in dry weather, school, people let their guards down, etc.

The question is really how much and how hard governments act to slow it down. If people respond responsibly and voluntary actions keep things in check, there is likely to be less needed. If not, we’re likely to see some kinds of closures. Hopefully, this time they can be more focused and shorter.

Remember, whatever increases we see happen from a base with the virus already in the community. That’s why the US is so (frank)ed. They have huge numbers and things are going to grow from there.

- Canada Cup

I get all that, I was just saying the percentages in Ontario are no where near what they were.
My fault for not stressing Ontario.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 22 @ 9:44 AM ET
i dont what he does, but i would think trying to get a few rumours correcr would help his business model.
But as long as he gets traffic on the site, that's all that matters i guess.

- Fakepartofme


Maybe he could new people in with credible rumours but he’s got a decent gig going with people here to talk to each other and not one blogger who pretends to get info.

They used to have EE, Strickland, even Howie but now no one bothers.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 22 @ 9:45 AM ET
what you are saying is the same exact thing Trump was criticized for a few months ago: 'if we don't test, we don't have any cases'.

the number which is most relevant to look at (apart from ICU patients and deaths) is "test per case".

The test-per-case ratio tracks exactly what it sounds like: the number of tests being done divided by the confirmed cases. When the number drops too low it means an epidemic is likely out of control, since officials can no longer keep up with the demand for testing and see where new pockets of disease are spreading.

- MaximusAurelius

Yeah exactly what I was saying. Don't test.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 22 @ 9:46 AM ET
Ek knows that his rumours are irrelevant to his business model so he doesn’t even try.
- Canada Cup

Wait.

Wait.

Wait.

So the NHL isn't considering doubleheaders?

Or building a 40,000 seat arena in Toronto?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 22 @ 9:47 AM ET
Maybe he could new people in with credible rumours but he’s got a decent gig going with people here to talk to each other and not one blogger who pretends to get info.

They used to have EE, Strickland, even Howie but now no one bothers.

- Canada Cup

It's the problem I have with all "hockey bloggers" - and by that, I'm throwing my net wider than Hockeybuzz.

1% of them actually provide original content. It's mostly just reporting on what actual hockey reporters have already written.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 22 @ 9:48 AM ET
I get all that, I was just saying the percentages in Ontario are no where near what they were.
My fault for not stressing Ontario.

- bobbyisno1


Ok, let’s say they test way more, see the % go down but find out that the absolute number of people infected is fairly high. They still have to act. More testing even with smaller % positive can still produce more hospitalizations, deaths, people getting very sick, etc.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 22 @ 9:48 AM ET
Id prefer anyone one of those guys to holl in the top 4....
But im not sure weegar is the answer to our issue.
If AP signs back with stl, make a move for parayko.

- Fakepartofme


I doubt Parynko is available if they bring AP back..i assume they want them both to try to win another cup.

they would figure out another way to keep them both.

not saying weegar is the answer, but maybe a under valued upgrade for the leafs

MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 22 @ 9:49 AM ET
Yeah exactly what I was saying. Don't test.
- bobbyisno1


you said: cases only go up because of more tests.

implicitly that's the same thing Trump said.
he was criticized for that statement.

the statement is both wrong as well as right:

the actual number of cases is what it is (100%) -- to increase # tests will only mean that we're able to reach a higher percentage of all those cases. (unless you test every single person, you'll only confirm part of all cases).
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 22 @ 9:49 AM ET
It's the problem I have with all "hockey bloggers" - and by that, I'm throwing my net wider than Hockeybuzz.

1% of them actually provide original content. It's mostly just reporting on what actual hockey reporters have already written.

- Atomic Wedgie


Once we accept that this isn’t a rumour site and that it’s a beat up Max site, it all makes sense.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 22 @ 9:51 AM ET
Little bit from tsn this morning...

"Kevin McGran of the Toronto Star believes the Maple Leafs will at least try to see if they can squeeze star defenceman Alex Pietrangelo under the cap this off-season, but isn't sure the moves the team would have to make would prove worth it.

McGran writes that some fans have suggested trading defenceman Morgan Rielly to open the roughly $9 million needed to land Pietrangelo, but believes this would only upgrade the team's defence slightly, noting Rielly is also four years younger. He also doesn't see Maple Leafs general manager Kyle Dubas parting with a core forward this off-season.

Instead, McGran believes the Maple Leafs will pursue depth pieces to upgrade their defence in free agency, pointing to Zach Bogosian, Luke Schenn, Michael Stone, Dylan DeMelo and Cody Goloubef as options. If the team is willing to spend a little more, he wonders if T.J. Brodie or Dustin Byfuglien could be a fit.

The Maple Leafs currently have $6.1 million in projected cap space for this off-season after trading winger Kasperi Kapanen to the Pittsburgh Penguins last month."

We go from trading Rielly to fit Pietrangelo to upgrading their defence with Schenn, Bogosian, Stone, Goloubef in the same article.

Get a new job Mcgran. 🤮
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 22 @ 9:51 AM ET
Ok, let’s say they test way more, see the % go down but find out that the absolute number of people infected is fairly high. They still have to act. More testing even with smaller % positive can still produce more hospitalizations, deaths, people getting very sick, etc.
- Canada Cup

I kinda think there's a squishy middle ground here.

Yes, I'm absolutely in favour of testing.

Yes, I'm absolutely concerned about the rise in cases.

Yes, I'm aware of the lag between positive cases and hospitalizations, respirator patients, and deaths.

But I'm still thinking that the hospitalizations and deaths are more important than cases, especially as it starts to skew to younger cases.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 22 @ 9:54 AM ET
I doubt Parynko is available if they bring AP back..i assume they want them both to try to win another cup.

they would figure out another way to keep them both.

not saying weegar is the answer, but maybe a under valued upgrade for the leafs

- senstroll


I don't see how that can afford both Pietrangelo and Parayko.. Unless, they trade a forward like Brayden Schenn
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 22 @ 9:59 AM ET
I don't see how that can afford both Pietrangelo and Parayko.. Unless, they trade a forward like Brayden Schenn
- PatC80

6.5 till he's 36, oh boy.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 22 @ 10:03 AM ET
6.5 till he's 36, oh boy.
- bobbyisno1


that's my point... How are the going to afford to pay Pietrangelo the $9M he wants and pay all the other guys?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Sep 22 @ 10:03 AM ET
I doubt Parynko is available if they bring AP back..i assume they want them both to try to win another cup.

they would figure out another way to keep them both.

not saying weegar is the answer, but maybe a under valued upgrade for the leafs

- senstroll

St. Louis is going to have a very difficult time fitting Pietrangelo into the lineup while holding onto Parayko. I can't see them moving Faulk as he's just about to start the first year of his new deal with the Blues. Same goes with Scandella.

Steen and The Bozak would be likely candidates to move... but who wants those two with those contract hits?

Doubt they'd want to move Schwartz or Perron. So what else can they do?

Thinking Parayko is the odd man out if they bring back AP. Also thinking the Blues actually want to walk from AP and are just making some noises to give the illusion that they've tried to negotiate his return.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 22 @ 10:04 AM ET
Little bit from tsn this morning...

"Kevin McGran of the Toronto Star believes the Maple Leafs will at least try to see if they can squeeze star defenceman Alex Pietrangelo under the cap this off-season, but isn't sure the moves the team would have to make would prove worth it.

McGran writes that some fans have suggested trading defenceman Morgan Rielly to open the roughly $9 million needed to land Pietrangelo, but believes this would only upgrade the team's defence slightly, noting Rielly is also four years younger. He also doesn't see Maple Leafs general manager Kyle Dubas parting with a core forward this off-season.

Instead, McGran believes the Maple Leafs will pursue depth pieces to upgrade their defence in free agency, pointing to Zach Bogosian, Luke Schenn, Michael Stone, Dylan DeMelo and Cody Goloubef as options. If the team is willing to spend a little more, he wonders if T.J. Brodie or Dustin Byfuglien could be a fit.

The Maple Leafs currently have $6.1 million in projected cap space for this off-season after trading winger Kasperi Kapanen to the Pittsburgh Penguins last month."

We go from trading Rielly to fit Pietrangelo to upgrading their defence with Schenn, Bogosian, Stone, Goloubef in the same article.

Get a new job Mcgran. 🤮

- joel878


Who the (frank) are these fans? LOL. Did they get dropped on their heads?


mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Sep 22 @ 10:05 AM ET
Who the (frank) are these fans? LOL. Did they get dropped on their heads?
- RogerRoeper

Now, now. He can't give away his anonymous fan sources.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 22 @ 10:06 AM ET
Really enjoyed Life on Mars but I couldn't quite get into the sequel series Ashes to Ashes. May have to give the latter a chance again.

Digressing back to King Crimson, I could never quite get into that band. I do, however, absolutely love their track "The Court of the Crimson King" -- go figure.

- mjones242


King Crimson was a bit of an enigma. Court of the Crimson King was a commercial success, Greg Lake's vocals were stellar. Fripp is a very talented guitarist and musician, much of Crimson's music was abstact and beyond early Pink Floyd abstract. Fripp was an important part of Eno and Talking Heads.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 22 @ 10:08 AM ET
Who the (frank) are these fans? LOL. Did they get dropped on their heads?
- RogerRoeper


Haven't really heard that one anywhere. But even if someone were to say and actually be serious about it, trading Rielly at 5 does not fit Pietrangelo at 9.

I don't understand how some of these guys have jobs.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 22 @ 10:09 AM ET
Sue them...
- bixll


*sues them*
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