Oh. So they both must have a bunch of 10+ million dollar players then.
- joel878

You're splitting hairs here. Benn's deal look horrible. And with the cap % it was higher than Marner's cap hit. Howe is Seguin any discount?

But what are you going to do, deal Marner because he'sa million overpaid? No one makes that argument when a GM locks-up a 4th liner for 3 million per. Why say it about a 23 year-old elite player?

It's stupid. people see (10.8) anmd can't get it out of their heads. But it is simply no different than overpaying any player on the roster. Every GM does it.

I am thankful Dubas doesn't overpay useless plugs you can never trade and play 7 minutes a night when as good or better players are always available. Can't say the same about a 90 point forward who's 23.
- RogerRoeper

this 10.8 m player hasnt really brought much in the playoffs.
When it counts....i think thats why some people are little pissy about him.

Teams will line-up for Mitch Marner/ Let's not kid ourselves.
- RogerRoeper

They certainly would. But the return would be hindered by the fact that he is overpaid.

For example - I would say Rantanen has more value in a trade right now than Marner does, purely because of the fact that his contract isn't 1.5 million+ overpaid.

Martin was more traded because Babcock would not play him.

I do find it funny though that only young stars' cap hits are talked about.
- RogerRoeper

I find it funny that you just can't stop saying you find things funny as a lead in to whine your ass off. My goodness, you're not 12.

this 10.8 m player hasnt really brought much in the playoffs.
When it counts....i think thats why some people are little pissy about him.
- Fakepartofme

No, Leafs had had zereo playoff success. But that should not equal giving up on a guy in his season when he was 22. It's (frank)ing stupid. Dallas has a very old team and got to the finals their first year this year. Tampa has been a cup fav for years and nothing so far. Took Washingtona decade. People need to have patience.

Should have bridged them all, the whole team is overpaid or under termed.

GLG

I find it funny that you just can't stop saying you find things funny as a lead in to whine your ass off. My goodness, you're not 12.
- joel878

Sorry did not mean to point out facts.

Martin was more traded because Babcock would not play him.

I do find it funny though that only young stars' cap hits are talked about.
- RogerRoeper

cause those are the cap hits currently on Toronto and this a Toronto based forum and we right by or in Toronto and huge portion of the loudest voices in hockey media are out of Toronto

You're splitting hairs here. Benn's deal look horrible. And with the cap % it was higher than Marner's cap hit. Howe is Seguin any discount?
- RogerRoeper

Yeah I bet Dallas fans are going to be losing their poop about Benns deal when he's hoisting the cup.

Anyone who says trade Marner has to be ready to be ok with him scoring 100+ points with his next team. I have a feeling the same people will crap all over Dubas for the trade.

You do not, under any circumstance trade Marner at 23. His best years are ahead of him. When has trading a player this good at that age worked-out for the team?

Also, Marner's cap hit will be loked at differently when Laine, Point Ktachuk sign their new deals soon enough.
- RogerRoeper

Leafs have 3 players like this. Your dealing from a position of strength to improve other areas. I wouldn't want to trade Marner unless it makes sense. But it would definitely give the leafs more flexibility if they did. If we want to improve the d and keep it together for a long time one of those three needs to be traded. Otherwise we stay the course and see where it goes.

Leafs have 3 players like this. Your dealing from a position of strength to improve other areas. I wouldn't want to trade Marner unless it makes sense. But it would definitely give the leafs more flexibility if they did. If we want to improve the d and keep it together for a long time one of those three needs to be traded. Otherwise we stay the course and see where it goes.
- bmoney411

They will improve the D while keeping both Marner and Nylander. Just wait and see.

I find it rather lazy seeing "Trade Nylander for a top 4 D" without any thought or explanation about who would be coming back.

this 10.8 m player hasnt really brought much in the playoffs.
When it counts....i think thats why some people are little pissy about him.
- Fakepartofme

He was great in 2018. That’s about it.

But what are you going to do, deal Marner because he'sa million overpaid? No one makes that argument when a GM locks-up a 4th liner for 3 million per. Why say it about a 23 year-old elite player?

It's stupid. people see (10.8) anmd can't get it out of their heads. But it is simply no different than overpaying any player on the roster. Every GM does it.
- RogerRoeper

If Marner was a top pairing defenseman, I don't think anyone would care about the large cap hit.
It's because we have 3 forwards making well over $10M per season, two of which are centers. We've seen that all the successful teams have two top line centers .. Which leaves our Marner..

Moving Marner will help fix other issues that this team has.

Sorry did not mean to point out facts.
- RogerRoeper

My fact was more of a fact than your 'people do *insert allegation here'. Your accusatory bullpoop doesn't immediately become fact.

No, Leafs had had zereo playoff success. But that should not equal giving up on a guy in his season when he was 22. It's (frank)ing stupid. Dallas has a very old team and got to the finals their first year this year. Tampa has been a cup fav for years and nothing so far. Took Washingtona decade. People need to have patience.
- RogerRoeper

I dont believe anyone is saying give up on him.
One poster on suggested one crazy trade idea.
I dont recall anyone on hear saying we need to give up on Marner.
And I don't give a fack about what some twat said on twatter.

When I see on Twitter people sugggesting Leafs could trade Marner's 10.8 and get "2" good players instead I lose my poop.

INSANITY.
- RogerRoeper

You have onion thin skin when it comes to any criticism towards the Leafs.

Why are we contemplating trading Marner when William Nylander's contract is so obviously and easily moveable?

If Marner was a top pairing defenseman, I don't think anyone would care about the large cap hit.
It's because we have 3 forwards making well over $10M per season, two of which are centers. We've seen that all the successful teams have two top line centers .. Which leaves our Marner..

Moving Marner will help fix other issues that this team has.
- PatC80

But who are we getting for Marner? Kind of important...

Why are we contemplating trading Marner when William Nylander's contract is so obviously and easily moveable?
- mjones242

We will move neither and Dubas will add a top pair RH D.

You have onion thin skin when it comes to any criticism towards the Leafs.
- gergeswillems

The trolls suck him in, he’s easy pickings.

Why are we contemplating trading Marner when William Nylander's contract is so obviously and easily moveable?
- mjones242

Gotta retain on Nylander

Why are we contemplating trading Marner when William Nylander's contract is so obviously and easily moveable?
- mjones242

Easy. 4 million dollar difference.

If Nylander can stick around and generate offense even close to Marner it absolutely is worth it... Because neither of us have to get into what you can do with an extra 4 million bucks in the cap world.

They both have the same knocks against them really...

Dubas can move his 15th overall and Lilljegrenb or even Sandin for a top pair D. It doesn't have to be Nylander.

I think Willy cracks 80-90 points next season.

You have onion thin skin when it comes to any criticism towards the Leafs.
- gergeswillems

Yes, some on here do.

Gotta retain on Nylander
- Steven_Seagull

Trade him, plays too scared for my team.

Just for the cap space 🤭😧😮😬😎