Ask the Canucks how they feel about Neely...
- dozerD10

Win some pass the beer nuts..

Ask the Canucks how they feel about Neely...
- dozerD10

At least he was a prospect. That's happened before. This would be trading a guy who's already elite and established.

Anybody can be traded

Just depends on the return
- mr.sir

Are some posters here included?

When I see on Twitter people sugggesting Leafs could trade Marner's 10.8 and get "2" good players instead I lose my poop.

INSANITY.

Anyone who says trade Marner has to be ready to be ok with him scoring 100+ points with his next team. I have a feeling the same people will crap all over Dubas for the trade.

You do not, under any circumstance trade Marner at 23. His best years are ahead of him. When has trading a player this good at that age worked-out for the team?

Also, Marner's cap hit will be loked at differently when Laine, Point Ktachuk sign their new deals soon enough.
- RogerRoeper

I agree, dont trade marner unless you have to.
Point is abetter player than Marner now, so its understandable if he gets more per year.

Anyone who says trade Marner has to be ready to be ok with him scoring 100+ points with his next team. I have a feeling the same people will crap all over Dubas for the trade.

You do not, under any circumstance trade Marner at 23. His best years are ahead of him. When has trading a player this good at that age worked-out for the team?

Also, Marner's cap hit will be loked at differently when Laine, Point Ktachuk sign their new deals soon enough.
- RogerRoeper

Says who? Rantanen already signed for the same term and yup, his deal sure is looked at differently...

I agree, dont trade marner unless you have to.
Point is abetter player than Marner now, so its understandable if he gets more per year.
- Fakepartofme

My point (No pun intended) is that Point's next deal will make Marner's deal viewed differently beacuse I guarantee he'll never sign for that amount again.

Off to a slow start in here this morning..
- bixll

Who wants a Donald Trump-Edmonton Oilers story? (Not political but I have to check bur people are so sensitive.)

Says who? Rantanen already signed for the same term and yup, his deal sure is looked at differently...
- joel878

Rantanen signed for 9.2. It is clearly a slightly better deal. I say slightly, because Rantanen has worse career numbers and actually had worse numbers last year.

No one seems to use Rantane's cap hit I noticed. it's more about Point.

Who wants a Donald Trump-Edmonton Oilers story? (Not political but I have to check bur people are so sensitive.)
- Canada Cup

Yup. Seguin, Hall, Thornton (Although he was 26). It's rare because it's so damn risky. Seth Jones was traded so young, but Nashville felt because of their crappy forwards and strong D they could afford it. It's bombed on them bad.

Marner had 94 points 2 years ago. In a shortened season where he was supposedly "bad", he was on pace for 93 points. He also was 21 and 22 during those seasons...

Forget about cap hits argument, it'll be nothing compared to backlash when Marner competes for an Art Ross with his next team.

And again, once the guys who took 2 and 3 year deals sign again people will look at his deal differently.
- RogerRoeper

for me, it all depends on the return.. You're right, Marner could put up a 100 point season, and win a major award.. However, if CBJ offered Seth Jones for Mitch Marner in a 1 for 1 deal, I would hope Dubas takes that deal..

Might be smarter for NJD to just attempt to re-sign Taylor Hall instead of entertaining trading for Marner.
- mjones242

True enough. $15mil might be to much for NJ to handle. I'm still waking up...

for me, it all depends on the return.. You're right, Marner could put up a 100 point season, and win a major award.. However, if CBJ offered Seth Jones for Mitch Marner in a 1 for 1 deal, I would hope Dubas takes that deal..
- PatC80

One major concern, Jones is UFA in 2 years...I wouldn't do it because of that. And colombus has major problems keeping their players. They may be forced to move him in a year.

(If Leafs got Jones his countdown to leaving as UFA would start immediately be fans and media. Not a sniffa bout it because he's in Colombus)

Anybody can be traded

Just depends on the return
- mr.sir

pretty much. Not sure why some are shocked by the idea of it.
But, moving out a 23 year old 90 plus pt player.....oh boy you really best be sure of that return. Cause youll be losing the best player in the deal.

Rantanen signed for 9.2. It is clearly a slightly better deal. I say slightly, because Rantanen has worse career numbers and actually had worse numbers last year.

No one seems to use Rantane's cap hit I noticed. it's more about Point.
- RogerRoeper

I don't know what you're talking about. I have always said Rantanen is Marner's closest comparable and use him as the example for why Marner is overpaid.

The Leafs got their ass kicked in the Marner negotiations.

I don't know what you're talking about. I have always said Rantanen is Marner's closest comparable and use him as the example for why Marner is overpaid.

The Leafs got their ass kicked in the Marner negotiations.
- Leafs43

But what are you going to do, deal Marner because he'sa million overpaid? No one makes that argument when a GM locks-up a 4th liner for 3 million per. Why say it about a 23 year-old elite player?

It's stupid. people see (10.8) anmd can't get it out of their heads. But it is simply no different than overpaying any player on the roster. Every GM does it.

I am thankful Dubas doesn't overpay useless plugs you can never trade and play 7 minutes a night when as good or better players are always available. Can't say the same about a 90 point forward who's 23.

Who wants a Donald Trump-Edmonton Oilers story? (Not political but I have to check bur people are so sensitive.)
- Canada Cup

Ah forget checking, sensitive people dont have to read it.

But im pretty sure weve all heard enough of that piece of sh!t traitor.

My point (No pun intended) is that Point's next deal will make Marner's deal viewed differently beacuse I guarantee he'll never sign for that amount again.
- RogerRoeper

You're splitting hairs at that point.

Lower cap hits are winning cups. I'm not super itchy to trade him this offseason unless it's needed, but he can be traded before the halfway point of his contract and I'm fine with that, he was too when he butt (frank)ed the team on that contract.

He can go chase the Art Ross somewhere else, Art Ross trophies aren't cups.

You're splitting hairs at that point.

Lower cap hits are winning cups. I'm not super itchy to trade him this offseason unless it's needed, but he can be traded before the halfway point of his contract and I'm fine with that, he was too when he butt (frank)ed the team on that contract.

He can go chase the Art Ross somewhere else, Art Ross trophies aren't cups.
- joel878

They are? If Tampa loses, there's still no cup and their best shot may have passed. Dallas got no discounts on Benn or Seguin. Blues had no one underpaid.

But what are you going to do, deal Marner because he'sa million overpaid? No one makes that argument when a GM locks-up a 4th liner for 3 million per. Why say it about a 23 year-old elite player?

It's stupid. people see (10.8) anmd can't get it out of their heads. But it is simply no different than overpaying any player on the roster. Every GM does it.

I am thankful Dubas doesn't overpay useless plugs you can never trade and play 7 minutes a night when as good or better players are always available. Can't say the same about a 90 point forward who's 23.
- RogerRoeper

What are you talking about? Why the (frank) do you think Matt Martin was traded. Overpaid is overpaid and you can't house those contracts in a cap world and go deep...

My point (No pun intended) is that Point's next deal will make Marner's deal viewed differently beacuse I guarantee he'll never sign for that amount again.
- RogerRoeper

well no not really.
Marner can change that narrative by scoring over a hundred points the next few years and playing well in the playoffs.
Just because another player might get overpaid doesnt change the fact that another player is overpaid right now

But what are you going to do, deal Marner because he'sa million overpaid? No one makes that argument when a GM locks-up a 4th liner for 3 million per. Why say it about a 23 year-old elite player?

It's stupid. people see (10.8) anmd can't get it out of their heads. But it is simply no different than overpaying any player on the roster. Every GM does it.
- RogerRoeper

No - I'm going to b1tch about it on a hockey forum.

But ya - I would entertain Marner trades. I'm not pushing him out the door, and the return would likely need to be more than other teams are willing to give, but I'd listen.

The contract hurts his value. He would be much more valuable at 9.25 x 6 where he should be.

What are you talking about? Why the (frank) do you think Matt Martin was traded. Overpaid is overpaid and you can't house those contracts in a cap world and go deep...
- joel878

Martin was more traded because Babcock would not play him.

I do find it funny though that only young stars' cap hits are talked about.

They are? If Tampa loses, there's still no cup and their best shot may have passed. Dallas got no discounts on Benn or Seguin. Blues had no one underpaid.
- RogerRoeper

Oh. So they both must have a bunch of 10+ million dollar players then.

No - I'm going to b1tch about it on a hockey forum.

But ya - I would entertain Marner trades. I'm not pushing him out the door, and the return would likely need to be more than other teams are willing to give, but I'd listen.

The contract hurts his value. He would be much more valuable at 9.25 x 6 where he should be.
- Leafs43

Teams will line-up for Mitch Marner/ Let's not kid ourselves.