When you can, you play your starter over your backup - since your starter would give you better chances of winning the game. It's not that difficult.
- MaximusAurelius

But other teams more succesfl are not doing that. And Babcock didn't do thata nyways. Did you miss his brilliant back-to-back games plan with the goalies? Many times the backup faced the tougher team.

this a horrible trade for the Leafs
Wtf.
- Fakepartofme

One of the worst ive seen on this board, and that is saying a lot.

Just like I tell Canuck fans about Brock.

STOP Trading Nylander. Get rid of the Toolbags in the bottom 6 that make way too much money and replace them with the crazy amount of guys available on the cheap this year.

League Min Plug > Kerfoot or Loui Losersson

When you can, you play your starter over your backup - since your starter would give you better chances of winning the game. It's not that difficult.
- MaximusAurelius

Yeah and Babcock was just lucky enough that the only games all season long that it was feasible to not play your starter was in the second half of back to backs.

Babs really got lucky with the schedule makers.

It's also a little weird to be figuring out goaltending needs for next year.

It's probably going to only be 60-70 games, but it's also probably going to be a condensed season, with no all-star break, no one-week break for teams.

Just for fun, let me propose one additional scenario for the Leafs:

Do nothing for the 2020-21 season. Accept that it's going to be a crapshoot, and just stand pat.

It will give you more cap flexibility in 2021-22, when hopefully things are back to normal.

Just like I tell Canuck fans about Brock.

STOP Trading Nylander. Get rid of the Toolbags in the bottom 6 that make way too much money and replace them with the crazy amount of guys available on the cheap this year.

League Min Plug > Kerfoot or Loui Losersson
- DrunkenCanuck

This is what I always say. That's why it's odd people view a 1 million payment too much to a 23 year-old star as a bigger deal than an overpay to a 4th liner.

I think it's simply people see 10.8 vs. 3 and can't think beyond that. "10.8 too much. 3 million not bad" (Do that in Frankenstein voice its funny)

Benning has some big contracts to supporting talent he needs to dump.

With COVID 19 there will be so many quality 4th liners looking for work on the cheap.

in the Cup final, you have both... A team where the goalie can play 60-65 games (Vasilievskiy) and a team that shares time between their goalies(Bishop/Khudobhin)

Let's see which one works before we can decide what is best for the Leafs
- PatC80

ya but, winning the cup doesn't mean one way is better than the other.
Bishop still played the bulk of the games this year. 62%
Not sure that is a 1a 1b time share
Plus i think he got injured.
But he was there starter

in the Cup final, you have both... A team where the goalie can play 60-65 games (Vasilievskiy) and a team that shares time between their goalies(Bishop/Khudobhin)

Let's see which one works before we can decide what is best for the Leafs
- PatC80

For the Leafs the idea of going with two goalies can't be stepping "down" in talent. That's a recipe for playoff failure.

I think the idea would be getting a goalie with upside or less of a resume who comes in at a cheaper cap hit. A Georgiev, Demko, Korpisalo type. All would come with some risks but they could initially share the role with Campbell.

The risk is balanced by the fact that they're saving 2+ Milly in cap space.

The other option is to pay a team (picks) to eat some existing contract.

You save 2.5 Milly in net and another 2.5 Milly by replacing Johnsson with Robertson and suddenly you're pretty close to opening up enough $$ to sign/trade for a D or two.

The only other realistic option for creating that kind of cap space is trading Willie.

ya but, winning the cup doesn't mean one way is better than the other.
Bishop still played the bulk of the games this year. 62%
Not sure that is a 1a 1b time share
- Fakepartofme

Sign Bishop, and when he's not starting, put him in front of the opposition net on powerplays.

This is what I always say. That's why it's odd people view a 1 million payment too much to a 23 year-old star as a bigger deal than an overpay to a 4th liner.

I think it's simply people see 10.8 vs. 3 and can't think beyond that. "10.8 too much. 3 million not bad" (Do that in Frankenstein voice its funny)

Benning has some big contracts to supporting talent he needs to dump.

With COVID 19 there will be so many quality 4th liners looking for work on the cheap.
- RogerRoeper

Pay attention to what I'm about to say, okay. I'll do it real slow...

10.8 - 9.2 = 1.6

He's overpaid by an entire player, two if you're filling out the 4th line.

Pay attention to what I'm about to say, okay. I'll do it real slow...

10.8 - 9.2 = 1.6

He's overpaid by an entire player, two if you're filling out the 4th line.
- joel878

But what about everyone else? The cap is about an entire roster? There are players undepaid. That's why I'm confused why him being overpaid by that much means he'd have to go...

And BTW he's worth more than 9.2. He has better numbers than Rantanen

This is what I always say. That's why it's odd people view a 1 million payment too much to a 23 year-old star as a bigger deal than an overpay to a 4th liner.

I think it's simply people see 10.8 vs. 3 and can't think beyond that. "10.8 too much. 3 million not bad" (Do that in Frankenstein voice its funny)

Benning has some big contracts to supporting talent he needs to dump.

With COVID 19 there will be so many quality 4th liners looking for work on the cheap.
- RogerRoeper

Ideally, the Loui Ericsson contract would be printed off in full and Benning should literally have to sit down and eat it. Maybe that will make him think twice before he overpays like that again.

I agree that there will be a ton of decent depth looking for work this year. Time to act on it.

But what about everyone else? The cap is about an entire roster? There are players undepaid. That's why I'm confused why him being overpaid by that much means he'd have to go...

And BTW he's worth more than 9.2. He has better numbers than Rantanen
- RogerRoeper

What about everyone else? Who are these other players on the roster that are overpaid by an entire player or two? Mr I want to play for my hometown team so bad it's the only team I want to play for so I'm going to fold them over a barrel and completely speedbag them is the most overpaid player on the team, that's why he gets the finger pointed at him. Stop with your silly ass victimization shtick for two seconds.

Assuming 82 starts:

Andersen 1A (55 starts)
Campbell 1B (27 starts)

Miller / Craig Anderson fixed backup goalie -- only plays when starter has a bad game / gets injured.
1 year deal at 1.25million.

In that way, the starter that is not starting that night will get full rest.

Run with 3 goalies works to address the fatigue issue.

For the Leafs the idea of going with two goalies can't be stepping "down" in talent. That's a recipe for playoff failure.

I think the idea would be getting a goalie with upside or less of a resume who comes in at a cheaper cap hit. A Georgiev, Demko, Korpisalo type. All would come with some risks but they could initially share the role with Campbell.

The risk is balanced by the fact that they're saving 2+ Milly in cap space.

The other option is to pay a team (picks) to eat some existing contract.

You save 2.5 Milly in net and another 2.5 Milly by replacing Johnsson with Robertson and suddenly you're pretty close to opening up enough $$ to sign/trade for a D or two.

The only other realistic option for creating that kind of cap space is trading Willie.
- The Law

Georgiev, Demko and Korpisalo are all really good options and would be cheaper than Andersen..

I have faith that Campbell can handle 30-40 games a season.. So, I do prefer the 1A/1B option.
It frees up cap space too.

Georgiev, Demko and Korpisalo are all really good options and would be cheaper than Andersen..

I have faith that Campbell can handle 30-40 games a season.. So, I do prefer the 1A/1B option.
It frees up cap space too.
- PatC80

How exactly are the Leafs going to obtain Demko?

What about everyone else? Who are these other players on the roster that are overpaid by an entire player or two? Mr I want to play for my hometown team so bad it's the only team I want to play for so I'm going to fold them over a barrel and completely speedbag them is the most overpaid player on the team, that's why he gets the finger pointed at him. Stop with your silly ass victimization shtick for two seconds.
- joel878

So would you trade him because he's 1 million overpaid?

Remember, Nylander was viewed as so overpaid a year ago. Perceptions change...

I'm just glad our "Most overpaid" player is a 23 year-old star and not the Skinner/Bobrovsky/Ladd's of the world. When that's your worst contrcat you are doing something right.

How exactly are the Leafs going to obtain Demko?
- Atomic Wedgie

They could by offering picks, but I feel Vancouver will keep him and let Markstrom go.

They could by offering picks, but I feel Vancouver will keep him and let Markstrom go.
- RogerRoeper

I confess that I don't really follow the Canucks, but why wouldn't they resign Markstrom and keep Demko, who is still on a contract for next year?

So would you trade him because he's 1 million overpaid?

Remember, Nylander was viewed as so overpaid a year ago. Perceptions change...

I'm just glad our "Most overpaid" player is a 23 year-old star and not the Skinner/Bobrovsky/Ladd's of the world. When that's your worst contrcat you are doing something right.
- RogerRoeper

You are the picture of waste of time. If you had a clue about this team you wouldn't have had them sweeping Columbus and in the cup finals this year.

How exactly are the Leafs going to obtain Demko?
- Atomic Wedgie

Well, since you guys are throwing away Nylander...

We might consider it, you’d have to retain though.

I confess that I don't really follow the Canucks, but why wouldn't they resign Markstrom and keep Demko, who is still on a contract for next year?
- Atomic Wedgie

Expansion draft next year. They can only keep 1 unless they work-out a deal with Seattle, but that's risky.

Vancouver has huge cap issues. It might be wise to go with the younger, cheaper Demko.

I confess that I don't really follow the Canucks, but why wouldn't they resign Markstrom and keep Demko, who is still on a contract for next year?
- Atomic Wedgie

You are right, that is what will happen - they have enough time to trade one of them before expansion draft.

OMG Offer sheets are coming.

You are the picture of waste of time. If you had a clue about this team you wouldn't have had them sweeping Columbus and in the cup finals this year.
- joel878

I picked Dallas out of the west, So apprently I have a clue.