He’s not looking for upfront payment, he’s looking for NMC and performance bonuses in his last two years which would give him cash payouts if he was bought out. This is from Athletic.
- Canada Cup

That's not possible. The CBA and salary cap was first signed in 2005, yet some still don't know the rules. Pietrangelo is not eligible for performance bonuses in his next contract.

A player doesn't earn performance bonuses until he meets the performance goals! LOL. You aren't thinking very clearly here. How does a player who is bought out meet the performance goals? You have confused it with a signing bonus which is money paid up front or by a certain date. That is buy out proof.


A Performance Bonus can be given to a player in addition to their salary. Performance bonuses are only paid to the player if they meet the requirements as defined by the bonus. Performance bonuses count against the salary cap; however, a team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit. Not all players are eligible for Performance Bonuses, and to receive a bonus within their contract, a player must meet one of the following criteria:
The player is on an entry-level contract.
The player has signed a one-year contract and is over 35 years old.
The player has signed a one-year contract after returning from a long-term injury (has played 400 or more games, and spent 100 or more days on the Injured Reserve in the last year of their most recent contract).

That's where I'd put Robertson - with Matthews and Hyman.

Robertson in the OHL reminded me a little of a Marc Savard type player. Not too impressive physically or overly flashy, but hockey sense coming out the ying-yang. Let's hope it translates at the next level.
- fifty__missions

I think it depends on what they want to do with the lineup, and the 3rd line in particular. I don't think they'll settle with Kerfoot as 3C, he's not great in that role at all.

1) The stats absolutely support me. How does he do without AM/JT?

2) Its been reported that the Leafs arent getting the return they're hoping for with Nylander because teams know he cant play defence at all.

3) Dubas is trying to offload him before his value plummets even more. Willys brutal defensive play has embarrassed Dubas. He went to bat for Marner at the end of the year when people were piling on, but not a peep about Willy.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

None of this is true. Brutal take

That's not possible. The CBA and salary cap was first signed in 2005, yet some still don't know the rules. Pietrangelo is not eligible for performance bonuses in his next contract.

A player doesn't earn performance bonuses until he meets the performance goals! LOL. You aren't think very clearly here. How does a player who is bought out meet the performance goals? You have confused it with a signing bonus which is money paid up front or by a certain date. That is buy out proof.


A Performance Bonus can be given to a player in addition to their salary. Performance bonuses are only paid to the player if they meet the requirements as defined by the bonus. Performance bonuses count against the salary cap; however, a team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit. Not all players are eligible for Performance Bonuses, and to receive a bonus within their contract, a player must meet one of the following criteria:
The player is on an entry-level contract.
The player has signed a one-year contract and is over 35 years old.
The player has signed a one-year contract after returning from a long-term injury (has played 400 or more games, and spent 100 or more days on the Injured Reserve in the last year of their most recent contract).
- MJL

Calm down. He meant signing bonus.

That's where I'd put Robertson - with Matthews and Hyman.

Robertson in the OHL reminded me a little of a Marc Savard type player. Not too impressive physically or overly flashy, but hockey sense coming out the ying-yang. Let's hope it translates at the next level.
- fifty__missions

Except Robertson is a shoot first guy and Savard a pass first guy. I don't think guys will be happy with Robertson playing with Matthews cause he's taking away from Matthews being able to shoot. Robertson should be playing on the 3rd line next year where he can shoot as much as he wants.

Calm down. He meant signing bonus.
- Leafs43

No, he didn't. He clearly said he's not looking for upfront money. You have a reading comprehension issue.

No, he didn't. He clearly said he's not looking for upfront money. You have a reading comprehension issue.
- MJL

He doesn't want upfront money in the first few years with the holdbacks.

The reporting says that Pietro does want signing bonuses in later years and the last year of the contract.

He doesn't want upfront money in the first few years with the holdbacks.

The reporting says that Pietro does want signing bonuses in later years and the last year of the contract.
- Leafs43

Did you read my post? Obviously not. I addressed that with the buyout proof comment. Signing bonuses and upfront money, which are the same thing can be paid out in any contract year.

Did you read my post? Obviously not. I addressed that with the buyout proof comment. Signing bonuses and upfront money, which are the same thing can be paid out in any contract year.
- MJL

Jesus (frank)ing christ. Why do I try? The most annoying people on this planet are stupid people who have convinced themselves that they are smart.

You are either purposefully or ignorantly missing Canada Cups entire point, as well as purposefully or ignorantly failing to understand my attempt to explain it to your dumb ass.

Except Robertson is a shoot first guy and Savard a pass first guy. I don't think guys will be happy with Robertson playing with Matthews cause he's taking away from Matthews being able to shoot. Robertson should be playing on the 3rd line next year where he can shoot as much as he wants.
- matt1337

I want Matthews back with Nylander: two shooters never had a problem on that line, because Nylander can carry and create space while posing as a shooting threat in the process.

If you are bringing in more than AP, than something like that might be necessary. If not, you really have to pick the holes you are creating and those you think you can fill. Plugging 3rd and 4th line spots can be done. Moving Willie means losing having two top scoring lines.

It might come down to whether and how quickly they think Robertson could fill Willie’s spot at the top.
- Canada Cup

It'd have to be more savings then just AJ and Kerfoot if they went that route. It'd probably mean they'd have to find some big savings in net too. It'd be great to keep Willie but man things would be thin behind the top two lines and top 3 D.

I think it'd have to be Willie unless they just aren't getting decent value back.

That's where I'd put Robertson - with Matthews and Hyman.

Robertson in the OHL reminded me a little of a Marc Savard type player. Not too impressive physically or overly flashy, but hockey sense coming out the ying-yang. Let's hope it translates at the next level.
- fifty__missions

I'd put Robertson with Marner and Tavares. Robertson loves to shoot and Marner loves to pass. Perfect match. Tavares will still be snakey good.

https://twitter.com/HockeyCentraI/status/1307349159146553344
- gravyface

What the bloodclot

I hope the Leafs sign him for 7 years at $10 mil per. Then they will be the 1st team to have 5 players taking up over $50 mil in cap space. Even Dubas wouldn't do this... or would he?
- islansjet

I just wish the Leafs had players like Andrew Ladd signed for 5.5M for 3 more years.

I want Matthews back with Nylander: two shooters never had a problem on that line, because Nylander can carry and create space while posing as a shooting threat in the process.
- gravyface

Yeah and they can both pass really well also. And Willy is always going to the dirty area in front of the net getting rebounds from Matthews shots. I'd like them to go back to AM/Bill and The Snake/MM as combos.

That's not possible. The CBA and salary cap was first signed in 2005, yet some still don't know the rules. Pietrangelo is not eligible for performance bonuses in his next contract.

A player doesn't earn performance bonuses until he meets the performance goals! LOL. You aren't thinking very clearly here. How does a player who is bought out meet the performance goals? You have confused it with a signing bonus which is money paid up front or by a certain date. That is buy out proof.


A Performance Bonus can be given to a player in addition to their salary. Performance bonuses are only paid to the player if they meet the requirements as defined by the bonus. Performance bonuses count against the salary cap; however, a team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit. Not all players are eligible for Performance Bonuses, and to receive a bonus within their contract, a player must meet one of the following criteria:
The player is on an entry-level contract.
The player has signed a one-year contract and is over 35 years old.
The player has signed a one-year contract after returning from a long-term injury (has played 400 or more games, and spent 100 or more days on the Injured Reserve in the last year of their most recent contract).
- MJL

Congrats on so much effort on a difference without a distinction. I humbly apologize for my wording error as I headed out to walk the dog. The article says he’s looking for a signing bonus in one of the last years of the contract.

I think if you can trade AJ/Kerfoot out instead of Willy you do it. To get Petro

blah blah blah 50m on 5 players. you can always trade Willy or Marner for better AJ and Kefoots.

https://twitter.com/HockeyCentraI/status/1307349159146553344
- gravyface

I was just gonna post this here.
Crazy

Yeah and they can both pass really well also. And Willy is always going to the dirty area in front of the net getting rebounds from Matthews shots. I'd like them to go back to AM/Bill and The Snake/MM as combos.
- Zezel

Hyman-AM-Nylander
Robertson-JT-Marner

That is a top 6 I can see being around for the next 4-5 years.

Did you read my post? Obviously not. I addressed that with the buyout proof comment. Signing bonuses and upfront money, which are the same thing can be paid out in any contract year.
- MJL

Newport Sports Management has an intern program. They like to start kids by editing other people’s hockey posts. It’s unpaid but sounds like a fit.

https://www.thehockeyagency.com/contact-us

I want Matthews back with Nylander: two shooters never had a problem on that line, because Nylander can carry and create space while posing as a shooting threat in the process.
- gravyface

Nylander isn't really a shoot first guy. He's pretty much both, passer and shooter. Marner you know for sure will pass and Robertson will shoot.

I do miss Nylander and Matthews were just dancing around Washington in that series. Wish they could get back to that.

I think if you can trade AJ/Kerfoot out instead of Willy you do it. To get Petro

blah blah blah 50m on 5 players. you can always trade Willy or Marner for better AJ and Kefoots.
- Santo_44

youd have to move out Andersen for a goalie half his cost. Move out holl and Dermott as well and replace with lili and Lehtonen. Robertson, barabanov or korshov to replace aj and ker.

Hmmm, such a big gamble.

youd have to move out Andersen for a goalie half his cost. Move out holl and Dermott as well and replace with lili and Lehtonen. Robertson, barabanov or korshov to replace aj and ker.

Hmmm, such a big gamble.
- Fakepartofme

Its not a gamble when you have the pieces Nylander/Marner to recoup those assets and then some.

The idea that they'd have to scramble and trade a Nylander to fit Petro is stupid. Sure if there is a good deal then great.

If not? Trade the lesser replaceable players and fit Petro in. Then you have a full year to work on a deal if you so please.

The gamble would be trading Nylander or Marner for less then market value to sign Petro.

Hyman-AM-Nylander
Robertson-JT-Marner

That is a top 6 I can see being around for the next 4-5 years.
- Santo_44

Yeah I like it. The big x factor is can Robertson turn into the real deal at the NHL level because if he can that is house money. That would be huge if he turns out to be a massive steal.

Yeah I like it. The big x factor is can Robertson turn into the real deal at the NHL level because if he can that is house money. That would be huge if he turns out to be a massive steal.
- Zezel

Playing with JT and Marner would help set him up to succeed.