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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 19 @ 5:55 PM ET
The good one or that not as good one?
- Leafs43

I like the one on Calgary.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 19 @ 5:56 PM ET
Thank you, then why would we be looking to pick up players on LTIR?
- Garnie

Something to do with getting an asset thrown in with that contract I believe.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 19 @ 5:58 PM ET
Something to do with getting an asset thrown in with that contract I believe.
- bobbyisno1

Seems strange when insurance pays for it, plus it (frank)s up the ability to accrue cap space during the reg season for the Leafs.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 19 @ 6:00 PM ET
He deserves alot of credit for getting us #34 😉
- mr.sir



That was the Marner year.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 19 @ 6:01 PM ET
Thank you, then why would we be looking to pick up players on LTIR?
- Garnie



Because MIB doesn’t know that.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 19 @ 6:01 PM ET
Seems strange when insurance pays for it, plus it (frank)s up the ability to accrue cap space during the reg season for the Leafs.
- Garnie



Or this.
13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 19 @ 6:05 PM ET
Because MIB doesn’t know that.
- Steven_Seagull

It's frustrating to read this on every blog MiB writes. Though, I'm no expert on the cap and I know it does play a role in cap management, so I'm not 100% sure, but this blog seems to be the only source that continues to reference this more LTIR = more cap space idea.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 19 @ 6:06 PM ET
Seems strange when insurance pays for it, plus it (frank)s up the ability to accrue cap space during the reg season for the Leafs.
- Garnie

Hortons wasn't insured and i'm pretty sure insurance doesn't pay it all.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 19 @ 6:08 PM ET
Hortons wasn't insured and i'm pretty sure insurance doesn't pay it all.
- bobbyisno1

I understand that one
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Sep 19 @ 6:10 PM ET
That was the Marner year.
- Steven_Seagull

Horachek was appointed as an assistant coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs on July 11, 2014, and named him the interim head coach of the team on January 7, 2015, after Randy Carlyle was fired from the position.[4] On January 9, 2015, Horachek was named head coach of Toronto for the remainder of the 2014–15 season. Under his direction, Toronto recorded a 9–28–5 record in 42 games as the team struggled throughout the second half of the season, resulting in a 15th-place finish in the Eastern Conference.[5] Horachek was fired on April 12, 2015, one day after the 2014–15 regular season ended, along with general manager Dave Nonis, assistant coaches Steve Spott and Chris Denis and goaltending coach Rick St. Croix.[6]
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 19 @ 6:12 PM ET
Horachek was appointed as an assistant coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs on July 11, 2014, and named him the interim head coach of the team on January 7, 2015, after Randy Carlyle was fired from the position.
- mr.sir[4] On January 9, 2015, Horachek was named head coach of Toronto for the remainder of the 2014–15 season. Under his direction, Toronto recorded a 9–28–5 record in 42 games as the team struggled throughout the second half of the season, resulting in a 15th-place finish in the Eastern Conference.[5] Horachek was fired on April 12, 2015, one day after the 2014–15 regular season ended, along with general manager Dave Nonis, assistant coaches Steve Spott and Chris Denis and goaltending coach Rick St. Croix.[6]



mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Sep 19 @ 6:18 PM ET
AP is 31.

Let’s not do this.

The Leafs are uncompetitive because Dubas folded with Nylander (should’ve made him sit) and then folded with Marner (he should’ve got 9.5). This is hindsight, but Tavares at 11mil also isn’t good value.

KD’s philosophy didn’t work. I never liked it from the beginning, but I can’t really fault him for trying. Now he’s trying to duct tape the holes, and it’s not working. None of the final 4 teams had a player making over 10mil, Leafs have three. Leafs didn’t need JT when they already had Kadri who was a great 2C. And they didn’t need to trade him, he could’ve played wing/pk/fill in for injuries.

Tyson Barrie is a charlatan. Ask any knowledgeable Avs fan about him, they knew he couldn’t defend. Idk on what planet “puck moving defensemen” is a blueprint for success, but defenders need to defend, period. Having a good shot helps, but other than that, they should focus on defending.

I think Dubas has been humbled. He came in bright eyed and bushy tailed, now he’s realizing the analytics side doesn’t carry much weight. Hockey is a team sport. You have to have players willing to do the dirty work, you can’t just hope that your snipers are going to score goals every night. Especially in the playoffs.

Dubas should be sacked. This era is going to go down as the most disappointing era in Leafs history if they don’t make some serious changes. If KD tries to bring AP in, Shanny or whoever should block it.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 19 @ 6:21 PM ET
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- mjones242

mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Sep 19 @ 6:23 PM ET

- 21peter

Nailed it!
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 19 @ 6:26 PM ET
Horachek was appointed as an assistant coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs on July 11, 2014, and named him the interim head coach of the team on January 7, 2015, after Randy Carlyle was fired from the position.
- mr.sir[4] On January 9, 2015, Horachek was named head coach of Toronto for the remainder of the 2014–15 season. Under his direction, Toronto recorded a 9–28–5 record in 42 games as the team struggled throughout the second half of the season, resulting in a 15th-place finish in the Eastern Conference.[5] Horachek was fired on April 12, 2015, one day after the 2014–15 regular season ended, along with general manager Dave Nonis, assistant coaches Steve Spott and Chris Denis and goaltending coach Rick St. Croix.[6]


Isn't he sucking in NJ now? Ottawa should hire him, I heard he's cheap. Spatso would be thrilled.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 19 @ 6:31 PM ET
Isn't he sucking in NJ now? Ottawa should hire him, I heard he's cheap. Spatso would be thrilled.
- winsix


Talking about New Jersey, I see where Lou Lamerello was named GM of the year.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Sep 19 @ 6:52 PM ET
Talking about New Jersey, I see where Lou Lamerello was named GM of the year.
- spatso

It's a bs award voted on by other GMs.

If you can name me one move he made this year that would make him deserving of an award, I'm all ears.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 19 @ 6:58 PM ET
because people don't want to drink themselves into liver failure? Got it.

On the other hand, there's far less pet stores than beer/LCBO's around

- Aaron_85

Quit being so judgemental.

My dog could quit drinking beer if she wanted.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 19 @ 7:12 PM ET
I like the one on Calgary.
- bobbyisno1

Before nylander's holdout, I suggested leafs should trade him to calgary for tkachuk. The general feedback I got on that suggestion was 'lousy idea, Nylander is much better than tkachuk'.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 19 @ 7:19 PM ET
Before nylander's holdout, I suggested leafs should trade him to calgary for tkachuk. The general feedback I got on that suggestion was 'lousy idea, Nylander is much better than tkachuk'.
- MaximusAurelius

Tkachuk is a mean sob, would look good on Mathews wing.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 19 @ 7:20 PM ET
The reason why I suggest Pietrangelo could be had at 7x7 by leafs is related to structure of the deal, and very importantly - a stlouis contract isn't as secure as a leafs contract. With the chances of several organizations folding next 2 seasons (Florida, Arizona 1st candidates) organizations like rangers, leafs and habs suddenly become even more attractive.
I have no idea what would happen with player's contracts of organizations that would fold, but it's definitely a risk - and st Louis is middle of the pack as for financial health..
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 19 @ 7:21 PM ET
Tkachuk is a mean sob, would look good on Mathews wing.
- bobbyisno1


Fischer is a cheaper, less talented but more physical winger than tkachuk.

Yotes might be willing to move him.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 19 @ 7:22 PM ET
Tkachuk is a mean sob, would look good on Mathews wing.
- bobbyisno1

That"s what I mentioned at that time.
I think Matthews and tkachuk are friends or at least past team mates - having played on same line in juniors.
(Same with Keller btw)

Tkachuk - Matthews - Keller would be a great line
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 19 @ 7:28 PM ET
That"s what I mentioned at that time.
I think Matthews and tkachuk are friends or at least past team mates - having played on same line in juniors.
(Same with Keller btw)

Tkachuk - Matthews - Keller would be a great line

- MaximusAurelius

And 4 mill less than Marner, gives the Leafs room for AP.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 19 @ 7:30 PM ET
And 4 mill less than Marner, gives the Leafs room for AP.
- bobbyisno1

I don't think AP makes the difference.
And Marner would be the last player I would trade on this Leafs team - even after Matthews
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