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GSimp1
St Louis Blues
Joined: 01.17.2007

Sep 19 @ 5:02 PM ET
Hopefully they sold out prior to the pandemic.

Car rental isn't really a lucrative place to be right now.

- Leafs43


Yeah, tough business for sure! But the family is worth $15 billion or so, so guessing they’ll still be able to eat!
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Sep 19 @ 5:03 PM ET
Nobody on a hockey forum has to have realistic expectations. I can dream he plays for 5 million a year for his favourite team growing up!
- Aaron_85




That's more along the lines of a hallucination...
GSimp1
St Louis Blues
Joined: 01.17.2007

Sep 19 @ 5:05 PM ET
We can help you out with Parayko if you want to keep your captain. We’re sensitive about signing away other team’s captains.
- Canada Cup


Much appreciated! You guys would love Parayko if it comes to that. Parayko and Bouwmeester were so dominant in the Cup run that it was incredible.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 19 @ 5:05 PM ET
Pietrangelo views a deal worth a total of 64m as taking a hometown discount to stay in his preferred St. Louis. Leafs fans really need to keep that in mind when suggesting what deal he'd take from Toronto lol.
- Antilles


One of the Blues problems (and it's actually a good one to have) is that should they re-sign Pietrangelo s ay at $8.5 M - that would have them at $21.5M for RHD. Parayko and Pietrangelo are fine but that deal for Faulk is starting to hurt. In addition he has to
be protected for the Seattle draft because he has a NTC. If Blues sign Pietrangelo which is quite possible, hard to see them being able to keep Parayko. Unless Blues can convince Steen to retire also tough to see where the money will come from to pay Pietrangelo and Dunn.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 19 @ 5:08 PM ET
7x7 with the right bonus and salary structure to optimize his payment - that would be the number for Pietrangelo.
I am not too sure Leafs would such a good fit for him though and visa versa - I feel leafs have better options to improve their chances to win a cup or 2

- MaximusAurelius


Pietrangelo is not signing for 7M a year.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 19 @ 5:08 PM ET
No lineup at the Beer Store.

There are 14 people in front of me in line at Petsmart.

Our society’s priorities are franked up.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 19 @ 5:08 PM ET
Again for the umpteenth time...

Don't sign 31 yr old D men for term and big $... no matter how good...

you can cite all his facts and bonafides till the cows come home.. The Leafs will regret this signing in 3 yrs tops.

Is he a piece the Leafs need.. Yes.. Does he push them over the top.. An emphatic No.

He comes from a team that enhances & magnifies his attributes... The Leafs simply don't play that way and aren't there yet.

- dozerD10



Chara at 29 was signed to a 5 year contract that would’ve made him the highest paid player in the league today...by a wide margin. He was then re-signed at 34 to a 7 year contract with a cap hit percentage of 11.64 - that’s 9.49M with an 81.5 salary cap.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 19 @ 5:11 PM ET
One of the Blues problems (and it's actually a good one to have) is that should they re-sign Pietrangelo s ay at $8.5 M - that would have them at $21.5M for RHD. Parayko and Pietrangelo are fine but that deal for Faulk is starting to hurt. In addition he has to
be protected for the Seattle draft because he has a NTC. If Blues sign Pietrangelo which is quite possible, hard to see them being able to keep Parayko. Unless Blues can convince Steen to retire also tough to see where the money will come from to pay Pietrangelo and Dunn.

- winsix



Only NMC has to be protected.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Sep 19 @ 5:12 PM ET
I'm also pretty sure that you can't sign a player not able to play for the purpose of circumventing the cap so Mike in Buffalo would be wrong in suggesting it.
- Aaron_85


I think he meant getting a Hossa or Gaborik contract and use their LTIR value.

LTIR restrict their flexibility with the cap
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 19 @ 5:15 PM ET
Chara at 29 was signed to a 5 year contract that would’ve made him the highest paid player in the league today...by a wide margin. He was then re-signed at 34 to a 7 year contract with a cap hit percentage of 11.64 - that’s 9.49M with an 81.5 salary cap.
- Steven_Seagull

Check out the big brain on Gull!
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 19 @ 5:16 PM ET
That's more along the lines of a hallucination...

- dozerD10


I'll share with you :D
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 19 @ 5:17 PM ET
No lineup at the Beer Store.

There are 14 people in front of me in line at Petsmart.

Our society’s priorities are franked up.

- Atomic Wedgie


because people don't want to drink themselves into liver failure? Got it.

On the other hand, there's far less pet stores than beer/LCBO's around
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 19 @ 5:17 PM ET
Technically jets have two teams one that used to suck and now sucks more in Arizona and the disaster that no self respecting NHL player wants to play for.

Brian Little says hi.

- winsix


Well if we are getting technical the Winnipeg Maple Leafs competed for the Cup before you guys existed so that would be three teams that suck ass
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 19 @ 5:19 PM ET
Well if we are getting technical the Winnipeg Maple Leafs competed for the Cup before you guys existed so that would be three teams that suck ass
- Ross77

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 19 @ 5:21 PM ET
AP is 31.

Let’s not do this.

The Leafs are uncompetitive because Dubas folded with Nylander (should’ve made him sit) and then folded with Marner (he should’ve got 9.5). This is hindsight, but Tavares at 11mil also isn’t good value.

KD’s philosophy didn’t work. I never liked it from the beginning, but I can’t really fault him for trying. Now he’s trying to duct tape the holes, and it’s not working. None of the final 4 teams had a player making over 10mil, Leafs have three. Leafs didn’t need JT when they already had Kadri who was a great 2C. And they didn’t need to trade him, he could’ve played wing/pk/fill in for injuries.

Tyson Barrie is a charlatan. Ask any knowledgeable Avs fan about him, they knew he couldn’t defend. Idk on what planet “puck moving defensemen” is a blueprint for success, but defenders need to defend, period. Having a good shot helps, but other than that, they should focus on defending.

I think Dubas has been humbled. He came in bright eyed and bushy tailed, now he’s realizing the analytics side doesn’t carry much weight. Hockey is a team sport. You have to have players willing to do the dirty work, you can’t just hope that your snipers are going to score goals every night. Especially in the playoffs.

Dubas should be sacked. This era is going to go down as the most disappointing era in Leafs history if they don’t make some serious changes. If KD tries to bring AP in, Shanny or whoever should block it.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 19 @ 5:23 PM ET
Correct, he's 30 and would be a big add to the Leafs. Chara was 29 when he signed with the Bruins, think of all that regret. Does he push him over the top - who knows, its a step they have to take if available IMO.
- winsix


Bruins rumoured to be going after him as well. Would hate to see them get their next Chara
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 19 @ 5:24 PM ET
We can help you out with Parayko if you want to keep your captain. We’re sensitive about signing away other team’s captains.
- Canada Cup


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dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Sep 19 @ 5:24 PM ET
Chara at 29 was signed to a 5 year contract that would’ve made him the highest paid player in the league today...by a wide margin. He was then re-signed at 34 to a 7 year contract with a cap hit percentage of 11.64 - that’s 9.49M with an 81.5 salary cap.
- Steven_Seagull


Chara is a HOF player... Petro is a nice RHD... Lets pretend we're on the same planet.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 19 @ 5:25 PM ET
AP is 31.

Let’s not do this.

The Leafs are uncompetitive because Dubas folded with Nylander (should’ve made him sit) and then folded with Marner (he should’ve got 9.5). This is hindsight, but Tavares at 11mil also isn’t good value.

KD’s philosophy didn’t work. I never liked it from the beginning, but I can’t really fault him for trying. Now he’s trying to duct tape the holes, and it’s not working. None of the final 4 teams had a player making over 10mil, Leafs have three. Leafs didn’t need JT when they already had Kadri who was a great 2C. And they didn’t need to trade him, he could’ve played wing/pk/fill in for injuries.

Tyson Barrie is a charlatan. Ask any knowledgeable Avs fan about him, they knew he couldn’t defend. Idk on what planet “puck moving defensemen” is a blueprint for success, but defenders need to defend, period. Having a good shot helps, but other than that, they should focus on defending.

I think Dubas has been humbled. He came in bright eyed and bushy tailed, now he’s realizing the analytics side doesn’t carry much weight. Hockey is a team sport. You have to have players willing to do the dirty work, you can’t just hope that your snipers are going to score goals every night. Especially in the playoffs.

Dubas should be sacked. This era is going to go down as the most disappointing era in Leafs history if they don’t make some serious changes. If KD tries to bring AP in, Shanny or whoever should block it.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Pietrangelo is 30. Dubas is trying to save his job. He'll be more aggressive now. If the Leafs fail Shanny will throw Dubas overboard to save his own ass.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 19 @ 5:26 PM ET
AP is 31.

Let’s not do this.

The Leafs are uncompetitive because Dubas folded with Nylander (should’ve made him sit) and then folded with Marner (he should’ve got 9.5). This is hindsight, but Tavares at 11mil also isn’t good value.

KD’s philosophy didn’t work. I never liked it from the beginning, but I can’t really fault him for trying. Now he’s trying to duct tape the holes, and it’s not working. None of the final 4 teams had a player making over 10mil, Leafs have three. Leafs didn’t need JT when they already had Kadri who was a great 2C. And they didn’t need to trade him, he could’ve played wing/pk/fill in for injuries.

Tyson Barrie is a charlatan. Ask any knowledgeable Avs fan about him, they knew he couldn’t defend. Idk on what planet “puck moving defensemen” is a blueprint for success, but defenders need to defend, period. Having a good shot helps, but other than that, they should focus on defending.

I think Dubas has been humbled. He came in bright eyed and bushy tailed, now he’s realizing the analytics side doesn’t carry much weight. Hockey is a team sport. You have to have players willing to do the dirty work, you can’t just hope that your snipers are going to score goals every night. Especially in the playoffs.

Dubas should be sacked. This era is going to go down as the most disappointing era in Leafs history if they don’t make some serious changes. If KD tries to bring AP in, Shanny or whoever should block it.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Or maybe we lost because the Leafs suck defensively.

Pietro would be a massive step to fixing that.


gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 19 @ 5:28 PM ET
Pietrangelo is not signing for 7M a year.
- MJL

I'm thinking 9 mil AAV. Blues can still offer the 8th year.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 19 @ 5:28 PM ET
Bruins rumoured to be going after him as well. Would hate to see them get their next Chara
- Canada Cup


If the bruins do get him I guarantee the people here who don't want Petro right now will be saying we need a Dman like Petro when the Bruins kick our ass in the playoffs next year.

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 19 @ 5:29 PM ET
Or maybe we lost because the Leafs suck defensively.

Pietro would be a massive step to fixing that.

- Leafs43

The Leafs suck defensively because it hasn’t been addressed.

But the offensive players have all been paid. That’s a failure in philosophy.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 19 @ 5:30 PM ET
If the bruins do get him I guarantee the people here who don't want Petro right now will be saying we need a Dman like Petro when the Bruins kick our ass in the playoffs next year.
- Leafs43

If the Leafs get Petro then Bruins fans will say he's overrated, overpaid and a horrible signing. If the Bruins sign him then Leaf fans will say the same things. 😂
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 19 @ 5:31 PM ET
Pietrangelo is 30. Dubas is trying to save his job. He'll be more aggressive now. If the Leafs fail Shanny will throw Dubas overboard to save his own ass.
- gergeswillems

Idk man..

If KD is sacked, Shanny should be too. They’re connected at the hip.
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