https://theathletic.com/2059658/2020/09/22/nhl-agents-break-down-the-stalemate-between-the-blues-and-alex-pietrangelo?source=user-shared-article

The Sabres interest in Pietrangelo is very real, from the coach to the GM to the owner, but are they really, truly willing to offer Pietrangelo the deal it would take to get him to sign?

A 7 year $63M total deal, with it front loaded where he makes say $10M-$11M his first 2-3 seasons with $8M-$9M of that in bonus money? I have my doubts, and that's not even considering if that's a wise idea with how many RHD's they already have, especially if the reports are accurate that they aren't going to trade Ristolainen.
- kingcong39

If he won’t take 8x8 (64mil total) from StL,
then it’s moronic (no offense) to think he’d take
only a $63mil contract from us

He’s gonna be 31 to start next season
Giving him a 7year deal for $10+ per is probably a bad idea for us

If he won’t take 8x8 (64mil total) from StL,
then it’s moronic (no offense) to think he’d take
only a $63mil contract from us

He’s gonna be 31 to start next season
Giving him a 7year deal for $10+ per is probably a bad idea for us
- jdfitz77

There's definitely cheaper options out there.

There's definitely cheaper options out there.
- Buff36

I’ll be happy if we can sign ANY decent UFAs at a reasonable price, but until that happens...
I’m not counting on it

It's not as simple as saying it's just the bottom line dollars of a deal for Pietrangelo.

As The Athletic article pointed out, it's the fact thst St. Louis doesn't do deals with salary bonus money or No Trade/No Move clauses.

That's the big sticking point, which is why I mentioned the structure of the deal that I did.

Bills are good and the sabres are next but still complain...




Where's terrys credit for getting josh allen ? Without him the bills would be nothing

Where's terry's credit for signing jack eichel ?

Wheres Terry's credit for skinner

But they suck then end
- GERBE!!!75PTS

You are a lemming.

If he won’t take 8x8 (64mil total) from StL,
then it’s moronic (no offense) to think he’d take
only a $63mil contract from us

He’s gonna be 31 to start next season
Giving him a 7year deal for $10+ per is probably a bad idea for us
- jdfitz77

No offense? LOL 😂😅

You didn't read the article, or you'd know it's about the structure of the deal, not the total dollars.

No offense? LOL 😂😅

You didn't read the article, or you'd know it's about the structure of the deal, not the total dollars.
- kingcong39

I think now that he’s in the open market that somebody will give him $9-10M per year AAV.

Especially if Vegas is as serious as they are made out to be they have a distinct advantage due to their tax laws.

If Vegas offers $8.5M the Sabres would have to offer much more then that.

I think now that he’s in the open market that somebody will give him $9-10M per year AAV.

Especially if Vegas is as serious as they are made out to be they have a distinct advantage due to their tax laws.

If Vegas offers $8.5M the Sabres would have to offer much more then that.
- Pegullaville

The deal I suggested was at $9M per and would have heavier earlier money, such as $11M per, with most of it being bonus money, which is the real sticking point between Pietrangelo and the Blues, along with a NTC/NMC.

Something like:

1 - $11M ($10M bonus)
2 - $11M ($10M bonus)
3 - $11M ($9M bonus)
4 - $10M ($8M bonus)
5 - $9M ($7M bonus)
6 - $6.75M ($4M bonus)
7 - $6M ($4M bonus)

That's the only way the Sabres could lure him, but I doubt they do that.

I think now that he’s in the open market that somebody will give him $9-10M per year AAV.

Especially if Vegas is as serious as they are made out to be they have a distinct advantage due to their tax laws.

If Vegas offers $8.5M the Sabres would have to offer much more then that.
- Pegullaville

Vegas has just under $5M in cap space and the rumor is they are signing Lehner to a $5M per deal.

Who are they trading to make space for Pietrangelo?

Stastny? Fleury?

Who is taking Fleury at that salary with 2 years left on his deal?

https://theathletic.com/2059658/2020/09/22/nhl-agents-break-down-the-stalemate-between-the-blues-and-alex-pietrangelo?source=user-shared-article

The Sabres interest in Pietrangelo is very real, from the coach to the GM to the owner, but are they really, truly willing to offer Pietrangelo the deal it would take to get him to sign?

A 7 year $63M total deal, with it front loaded where he makes say $10M-$11M his first 2-3 seasons with $8M-$9M of that in bonus money? I have my doubts, and that's not even considering if that's a wise idea with how many RHD's they already have, especially if the reports are accurate that they aren't going to trade Ristolainen.
- kingcong39

This is a player we do not need and would be a disaster moving forward with contracts.

The deal I suggested was at $9M per and would have heavier earlier money, such as $11M per, with most of being bonus money.

Something like:

1 - $11M ($10M bonus)
2 - $11M ($10M bonus)
3 - $11M ($9M bonus)
4 - $10M ($8M bonus)
5 - $9M ($7M bonus)
6 - $6.75M ($4M bonus)
7 - $6M ($4M bonus)

That's the only way the Sabres could lure him, but I doubt they do that.
- kingcong39

Time will tell I guess.

Time will tell I guess.
- Pegullaville

If Vegas miraculously makes room, and offers him $8.5M per with an NTC/NMC and a heavy percentage of his money is front loaded, with a lot of bonus money, I agree that the Sabres would have to offer much more.

The team that meets those parameters will get him.

St. Louis has been steadfast in their philosophy of not giving no trade or no move clauses and not offering bonus money in their deals.

Let the Leafs overpay for him like they did everyone else.

Pie would be great. He'd also need to be protected.

Pie, Dahlin, Jokiharju

Pie would be great. He'd also need to be protected.

Pie, Dahlin, Jokiharju
- TheSabresTaco

The other aspect is the Sabres actually evaluating all of their RHD options appropriately, and that falls into the category of I'll believe it when I see it.

The other aspect is the Sabres actually evaluating all of their RHD options appropriately, and that falls into the category of I'll believe when I see it.
- kingcong39

Fair.

The buyout window opens today. Will be interesting to see whom is bought out.

Alex Goligoski no trade list

Buffalo
Calgary
Detroit
Edmonton
Los Angeles
Montreal
Ottawa
Winnipeg

The buyout window opens today. Will be interesting to see whom is bought out.
- Pegullaville

Given his bonus is already paid, and Botterill isn't here anymore, and the mandate to be "leaner" in cash spending, I wonder if Okposo could be bought out.

This is a player we do not need and would be a disaster moving forward with contracts.
- SABRES 89

But if Terry “the fan boy” gets his way, he buries his team for YEARS! We don’t need a $9-10 mill Pietranglo. We just need a steady righty to pair with Dahlin... Right now you have....

Dahlin. 1RD
2LD. Joker, Monte, Risto
McCabe. Miller.
Borgen

Pilut (LD, in KHL because of one way vs 2 way contract.

If you actually fix the 3 second pairing RD and decide on one. You may actually get somewhere. Throwing huge term and money at 1RD is just going to handcuff this team further and it’s going to cost you good young players.

Alex Goligoski no trade list

Buffalo
Calgary
Detroit
Edmonton
Los Angeles
Montreal
Ottawa
Winnipeg
- GERBE!!!75PTS

The guy doesn't seem to want to play anywhere near Canada.

The deal I suggested was at $9M per and would have heavier earlier money, such as $11M per, with most of it being bonus money, which is the real sticking point between Pietrangelo and the Blues, along with a NTC/NMC.

Something like:

1 - $11M ($10M bonus)
2 - $11M ($10M bonus)
3 - $11M ($9M bonus)
4 - $10M ($8M bonus)
5 - $9M ($7M bonus)
6 - $6.75M ($4M bonus)
7 - $6M ($4M bonus)

That's the only way the Sabres could lure him, but I doubt they do that.
- kingcong39

I would not pay that myself.
That aside, it would be nice to have the last few years, say 3 as a Salaray versus Bonus to help make available a Buyout for those later years

This is a player we do not need and would be a disaster moving forward with contracts.
- SABRES 89

Let's be clear, the Sabres could absolutely use him as a 1RhD.
However, they should not enter into a contract of that magnitude...they will quickly be the Bay Leafs lite.

Morning Gents

It's not as simple as saying it's just the bottom line dollars of a deal for Pietrangelo.

As The Athletic article pointed out, it's the fact thst St. Louis doesn't do deals with salary bonus money or No Trade/No Move clauses.

That's the big sticking point, which is why I mentioned the structure of the deal that I did.
- kingcong39

Perhaps we shouldn't either... I'm pretty sure that we got absolutely demolished because of stupid contract stipulations on a certain player in StL now.