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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 22 @ 11:14 AM ET
i dont think many will argue that the LOG line (if it were the 4th line) isn't a problem. the problem comes when they are used as a 3rd line and when you look at the price tag.
- SabresFaninIndiana


Especially when that price tag could easily be $11M combined for next year (Okposo = $6M, Larsson = $3M, Girgensons = $2M).
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Sep 22 @ 11:28 AM ET
Concussed Larry.
OG Larry
Tall Larry
Vid-ya game fatty Larry

Now what do we call Clifford, if he gets signed .... Jam Larry... Clarry?

- Gr8daygo

Buffalo may as well go after Larrrs Eller. Lockport Lars eller, they call him L’s
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 22 @ 11:37 AM ET
So are we still interested in Risto and 8 for Henrique and 6
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 22 @ 11:38 AM ET
Especially when that price tag could easily be $11M combined for next year (Okposo = $6M, Larsson = $3M, Girgensons = $2M).
- kingcong39

That's the big problem, if we could get them for the same salary as last year it would be fine, the money is the issue.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 22 @ 11:39 AM ET
So are we still interested in Risto and 8 for Henrique and 6
- Buff36


Absolutely, but I doubt the Ducks would want to do that.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 22 @ 11:47 AM ET
So are we still interested in Risto and 8 for Henrique and 6
- Buff36


How bad is henriques contract? As a 3C. He would be good.

Pending his contract situation. The played is fine
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 22 @ 11:50 AM ET
How bad is henriques contract? As a 3C. He would be good.

Pending his contract situation. The played is fine

- Sabretooth9

5.8 until 2024
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 22 @ 11:52 AM ET
5.8 until 2024
- Buff36


Ooofff. If the ducks hold 1.8 mill. Yes, I do it. 100%

He’s 30. So not out of his prime just yet.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 22 @ 11:53 AM ET
Absolutely, but I doubt the Ducks would want to do that.
- kingcong39

Well over on there board as long as they don't have to hold any celery, it's a deal. But your right I doubt they would do it.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
Especially when that price tag could easily be $11M combined for next year (Okposo = $6M, Larsson = $3M, Girgensons = $2M).
- kingcong39



This is a good point. For 4th liners the value isn’t there at that price
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 22 @ 11:56 AM ET
Ooofff. If the ducks hold 1.8 mill. Yes, I do it. 100%

He’s 30. So not out of his prime just yet.

- Sabretooth9

Well the last 2yrs would be the problem, you are basically adding 400,000 for the first 2yrs with the contract swap. He would still only be 32, so you might be able to still move him.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 22 @ 12:01 PM ET
So are we still interested in Risto and 8 for Henrique and 6
- Buff36


How about we each hold like 1.5M off of each, so that for the first two years it's even, but they pay for the last two years?
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 22 @ 12:24 PM ET
How about we each hold like 1.5M off of each, so that for the first two years it's even, but they pay for the last two years?
- SDSabre


2 budget teams. I think that would be tough to pull off.

Even though I mentioned the same thing lol
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 22 @ 12:35 PM ET
2 budget teams. I think that would be tough to pull off.

Even though I mentioned the same thing lol

- Sabretooth9

Well I got them to hold 400,000 grand to make it a contract in contract out deal.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 22 @ 12:41 PM ET
I just hope Adams can find and replace their level of excellence
- jcragcrumple

You have yet to make a good argument for Larsson leaving being a good thing besides you're just tired of seeing him. Which is a pretty bad justification.

The crazy thing is, swapping Larsson for Staal is a net loss.

We have no one to handle tough minutes. And no Curtis Lazar can't remotely do what Larsson does
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 22 @ 12:58 PM ET
You have yet to make a good argument for Larsson leaving being a good thing besides you're just tired of seeing him. Which is a pretty bad justification.

The crazy thing is, swapping Larsson for Staal is a net loss.

We have no one to handle tough minutes. And no Curtis Lazar can't remotely do what Larsson does

- sbroads24




This belongs in the analytic hot take HOF next to "Chimera is a poor man's Eichel"
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 22 @ 1:01 PM ET


This belongs in the analytic hot take HOF next to "Chimera is a poor man's Eichel"

- jcragcrumple

You refuse to acknowledge that Larsson was legitimately a top 10 defensive forward in the league last season. That's fine

Staal isn't very good defensively, and is going from a 1C in Minny to a 2C in Buffalo.

Who's taking the tough matchups? Staal? Cozens?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 22 @ 1:01 PM ET
You have yet to make a good argument for Larsson leaving being a good thing besides you're just tired of seeing him. Which is a pretty bad justification.

The crazy thing is, swapping Larsson for Staal is a net loss.

We have no one to handle tough minutes. And no Curtis Lazar can't remotely do what Larsson does

- sbroads24


Staal > Johansson.

That’s the way I look at it.

I will be interested to see how they go about replacing Larsson.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 22 @ 1:04 PM ET
Staal > Johansson.

That’s the way I look at it.

I will be interested to see how they go about replacing Larsson.

- Pegullaville

Sure. Staal as an offensive 2C is for sure an upgrade.

As it stands they need a shut down center otherwise one of Staal or Eichel are going to be put in unfavorable spots
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 22 @ 1:05 PM ET
Hopefully Josh allen Goes after Jalen ramsey this week Shove that ball down his Throat ...


Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 22 @ 1:06 PM ET
Sure. Staal as an offensive 2C is for sure an upgrade.

As it stands they need a shut down center otherwise one of Staal or Eichel are going to be put in unfavorable spots

- sbroads24


I mean you could switch Staal with Monahan and we’d still be in the same predicament, actually even worse off defensively.

How they replace Larsson remains to be seen. If it is by throwing a two year offer at Haula or Gally though then they better be on the look out for a couple of 200 foot wingers to compensate
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 22 @ 1:07 PM ET
You refuse to acknowledge that Larsson was legitimately a top 10 defensive forward in the league last season. That's fine

Staal isn't very good defensively, and is going from a 1C in Minny to a 2C in Buffalo.

Who's taking the tough matchups? Staal? Cozens?

- sbroads24


It's not that hard to figure out. Eichel takes the tough matchups a la Sidney Crosby, Staal and Skinner feast in the wake a la Malkin, and then you assemble a bottom six that is balanced enough to occasionally score and not puke all over themselves in the defensive zone.

My God it'll be ok when Larsson leaves. I promise.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 22 @ 1:07 PM ET
So Hjalmarsson won't wave for family reasons, something with his son's.
- Buff36


I'm guessing because he can't take them

Which makes sense
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 22 @ 1:09 PM ET
Can't wait till Larry leaves so we can stop this

He's not coming back time to move on
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 22 @ 1:11 PM ET
Isn't the goal in hockey to score more ?

Just wondering
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