In the example given both are pretty established as what they are as a NHL player so definitely Laine.
Buffalo needs a RW since the cupboards bare so unless they trade for or sign a decent RW with term I say yes Holtz even though he may be a couple years away.
If it's about defense just give Larry some money
- Leninthebuff

I’d be happy with either of them tbh.

If they pick Holtz they do have to find a another Center to be here for the medium-long term.

If they take Lundell then in a year or two we are moving assets for a scoring winger.

Not necessarily a right or wrong answer

On this team? Danault 100%

Laine plays Eichel's spot on the PP. We don't need that guy. We could definitely use Danault as a checking center. Im not making a draft point here. Just a roster point
- jcragcrumple

What would you give up to get him?

What would you give up to get him?
- GilPerreault11

Montour/Risto, Mitts, 2021 first.

Danault with extension included

What would you give up to get him?
- GilPerreault11

I would never give 8OA for Danault...38 and a prospect not named Cozens. From what I read from a montreal fan, he didn't have much good to say other than his defense and PK...as for his offensive side he was pretty hard on him.


Here is what the guy said
"If you have players with offensive talent, you put them in that type of situation. Especially if you have a strong goalie and top 4 (are we strong or good? Price is the elite, defense is good to great). Tatar and Gallagher are two players who can produce but they need a center who can get the puck to the net. Is that Danault? Nope, you've seen him control zero play, sauce the pass, set up one timers? Tape to tape on the fly? Creative vision? Is Phillip any of these and that's off the top of my head. Def on the brain fans.

Danualt's strengths? Faceoffs, and PK (oh and every analytical stat that points out how great he is but translate to what on ice in offense? Everyone loves him, not me, I want to see more of Suzuki and Kotkaniemi and I don't care if loses are the result of them seeing top line minutes. If you have Danault on line three with Lehkonen shutting down top lines then that's perfect."

What would you give up to get him?
- GilPerreault11

Montour straight up. If they don't want that, I'm going after Soderberg then Haula in that order. I only like Danault a certain amount.

for 4-6 weeks done, you mean?
- sbroads24

They will shut him down. Why risk playing him and missing out on a qb

I’d be happy with either of them tbh.

If they pick Holtz they do have to find a another Center to be here for the medium-long term.

If they take Lundell then in a year or two we are moving assets for a scoring winger.

Not necessarily a right or wrong answer
- Pegullaville

I'd go Holtz, trade Reinhart in a package for an upgrade skill, grit winger or number 2 center after a year hopefully after we see that Holtz won't be a bust and they don't sign Reinhart to another untradeable contract. A guy can dream.

If Holtz and Cozens work out then they don't need Reinhart for a 2nd line center but for a different type, skilled, grittier, heart bigger body type top six winger in a package. Less expensive, hopefully, than a top two center.

Montour straight up. If they don't want that, I'm going after Soderberg then Haula in that order. I only like Danault a certain amount.
- jcragcrumple

I see, not sure what Montour's value is right now.

They will shut him down. Why risk playing him and missing out on a qb
- GERBE!!!75PTS

No they won't. You don't just inactivate a healthy player in late October.

we are assuming larsson is a 4th liner

reality, ralph gave him, okposo and girgens third line minutes as they averaged combined about 14 minutes a night

Montour straight up. If they don't want that, I'm going after Soderberg then Haula in that order. I only like Danault a certain amount.
- jcragcrumple

Can I make an argument that Danault is what O'Reilly was supposed to be for this team in terms of timing and his role?

Danault had one more point than Eichel at even strength this past season, while playing 140 less total minutes.

His points per 60 this past season was 32nd overall in the league.

In 2018-2019, his even strength points per 60 were the same as Mikko Rantanen and Sean Couturier. His total even strength points were the same as Barzal and Nick Backstrom.

He has out produced Cirelli by a good margin at both rate and total.

He receives very little power play time, so there will be little worry about him needing time on the top power play to continue producing offense, and he averages over 2 minutes per game of penalty kill time.

He receives 55%-58% defensive zone starts, while being good to very good defensively and still producing offense.

He's also 52%-55% on faceoff wins the past 3 seasons.

I would offer quite a bit to get Danault, assuming he would sign of course, as I believe he is the ideal player to bring in at this time for the Sabres.

Can I make an argument that Danault is what O'Reilly was supposed to be for this team in terms of timing and his role?

Danault had one more point than Eichel at even strength this past season, while playing 140 less total minutes.

His points per 60 this past season was 32nd overall in the league.

In 2018-2019, his even strength points per 60 were the same as Mikko Rantanen and Sean Couturier. His total even strength points were the same as Barzal and Nick Backstrom.

He has out produced Cirelli by a good margin at both rate and total.

He receives very little power play time, so there will be little worry about him needing time on the top power play to continue producing offense, and he averages over 2 minutes per game of penalty kill time.

He receives 55%-58% defensive zone starts, while being good to very good defensively and still producing offense.

He's also 52%-55% on faceoff wins the past 3 seasons.

I would offer quite a bit to get Danault, assuming he would sign of course, as I believe he is the ideal player to bring in at this time for the Sabres.
- kingcong39

Yeah, you know a lot about him but it seems it would cost much more than Montour and be worth it.

Yeah, you know a lot about him but it seems it would cost much more than Montour and be worth it.
- GilPerreault11

It absolutely would, and I would likely pay the asking price, as Danault is well worth it.

It absolutely would, and I would likely pay the asking price, as Danault is well worth it.
- kingcong39

he's a rental

we are assuming larsson is a 4th liner

reality, ralph gave him, okposo and girgens third line minutes as they averaged combined about 14 minutes a night
- navinrjohnson

Now imagine Larsson at 14 minutes but with Kahun and another top 9 caliber winger that aren’t completely inept offensively

he's a rental
- navinrjohnson

I'd approach him like Vegas did with Mark Stone to extend him as part of the deal.

Now imagine Larsson at 14 minutes but with Kahun and another top 9 caliber winger that aren’t completely inept offensively
- Pegullaville

Larsson has played all over with the Sabres from 1st line when they had absolutely no talent and injuries to last years productive 4th line that played more minutes because of the way they played so I don't think people are assuming he is just a 4th liner.

Now imagine Larsson at 14 minutes but with Kahun and another top 9 caliber winger that aren’t completely inept offensively
- Pegullaville

would ralph do that though?


I mean he said he was looking forward to working with dahlin and in year 2 of his development, gave dahlin a whopping 5 seconds of ice time per game on penalty kill


if we were competing for a playoff spot, I kind of get it, but based on the 16 team format, the sabres were eliminated in Feb

I'd approach him like Vegas did with Mark Stone to extend him as part of the deal.
- kingcong39

Kahun-Danault-Fast would be an interesting third line

Kahun-Danault-Fast would be an interesting third line
- navinrjohnson

It would. Danault also plays and produces like a 2C.

Now, that the Sabres have found their second-line center in Eric Staal, they can start to explore the market on top-six wingers. The Blackhawks offer a few options that could fill the Sabres need at the position. Brandon Saad is the one at the top of the list.

Multiple league sources have indicated to me that the Sabres have expressed interest in the 27-year-old winger. There’s not a trade that is imminent here, but the two sides have had conversations about the player.

https://www.expectedbuffa...the-saad-strome-caggiula/

Now, that the Sabres have found their second-line center in Eric Staal, they can start to explore the market on top-six wingers. The Blackhawks offer a few options that could fill the Sabres need at the position. Brandon Saad is the one at the top of the list.

Multiple league sources have indicated to me that the Sabres have expressed interest in the 27-year-old winger. There’s not a trade that is imminent here, but the two sides have had conversations about the player.

https://www.expectedbuffa...the-saad-strome-caggiula/
- kingcong39

That’s a big salary

That’s a big salary
- dadeadhead

If it's one of Montour or Ristolainen going the other way, that offsets the $6M a bit.

If it's one of Montour or Ristolainen going the other way, that offsets the $6M a bit.
- kingcong39

Makes no sense for Chicago then. They’re trying to shed cap.

Need to move 55 or 62 in separate deal

Now, that the Sabres have found their second-line center in Eric Staal, they can start to explore the market on top-six wingers. The Blackhawks offer a few options that could fill the Sabres need at the position. Brandon Saad is the one at the top of the list.

Multiple league sources have indicated to me that the Sabres have expressed interest in the 27-year-old winger. There’s not a trade that is imminent here, but the two sides have had conversations about the player.

https://www.expectedbuffa...the-saad-strome-caggiula/
- kingcong39

Can he play both wings, doesn't he play LW