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powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Sep 15 @ 2:54 PM ET
I agree that you took a swipe, just when we were ALL staying away from it, no more no less, but I finished a great Christian series on amazon called the Color of Compromise that starts with the history of North American religion from before there was Revolution. I learned a lot.
- wiz1901


Not the question I asked, so thank you for proving my point.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Sep 15 @ 2:56 PM ET
Brodin re-signs with the Wild for $6M x 7 years starting 2021-22. There is a NMC for at least the first 4 years of the deal.
- Theo Fox

@TheFourthPeriod

Brodin's year-by-year (all salary, no SB) breakdown:

Year 1: $4M (Full NMC)
Year 2: $5M (Full NMC)
Year 3: $8M (Full NMC)
Year 4: $8M (Full NMC)
Year 5: $7.5M
Year 6: $5.5M
Year 7: $4M

There is no NTC protection in the final 3-years of his deal.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 15 @ 2:56 PM ET
Brodin re-signs with the Wild for $6M x 7 years starting 2021-22. There is a NMC for at least the first 4 years of the deal.
- Theo Fox

That's a lotta coin for guy who doesn't provide much offense from the back end. Guess we know Krug isn't getting 5.5M now.

Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 15 @ 2:58 PM ET
You bet, Angotti. I'll do what I can to share updates and perspectives especially during the offseason.

Things will ramp up fast in a few weeks with the draft and free agency in early October.

Preview blogs for the draft and free agency starting next week.

- Theo Fox

You should keep the mutants guessing, Theo. JMO.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Sep 15 @ 3:01 PM ET
I was just going to post the same. I always thought he was kind of underwhelming from speaking with MN fans (when I was traveling for work). I never really paid much attention to him. Is he MN's version of Murphy? Steady defensively with little spark, so you don't really notice him and is underappreciated?
- Chunk

IMO, Brodin is a better all-around defender than he gets credit for. Not going to win any Norris trophies but he seems reliable on both ends of the rink.

Brodie is similar but likely a notch or two below. Brodin is a #1 on many teams but Brodie would be hard pressed to be the #1 on most teams.

Either way, not that the Hawks can afford either of them or have room so as to not block paths for the youngsters but having either Brodin or Brodie would be upgrades on the Hawks blueline.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Sep 15 @ 3:02 PM ET
You should keep the mutants guessing, Theo. JMO.
- Elbows15

Trying to do a head fake. Don't blow my cover.
kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Sep 15 @ 3:07 PM ET
It sounds like they wanted to get a deal done so they could move Dumba? I think the hawks D is not good top to bottom, so I would be open to moving any of them depending on the return. when Matta and Koek is better then Keith murph and dehaan.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Sep 15 @ 4:17 PM ET
That's a lotta coin for guy who doesn't provide much offense from the back end. Guess we know Krug isn't getting 5.5M now.
- Elbows15


Krug is getting Seabrook money or more. Unless the Hawks can magically eliminate about 8M in salary, We are not going to be seeing any notable FA additions.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Sep 15 @ 4:25 PM ET
Several older goalies with good pedigrees on the market.
- StLBravesFan


Of the top 10 available FA goalies, Lehner is the youngest at 28. Considering the glut of available FA goalies (with experience), I would guess Stan sent the offer to Crow as a "final offer". There is not a ton of money available from teams, and the ones that have it will be doling out for high end forwards and D (IMO).
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Sep 15 @ 4:38 PM ET
Of the top 10 available FA goalies, Lehner is the youngest at 28. Considering the glut of available FA goalies (with experience), I would guess Stan sent the offer to Crow as a "final offer". There is not a ton of money available from teams, and the ones that have it will be doling out for high end forwards and D (IMO).
- Chunk


Khudobin will get a nice raise, but Dallas has the money (depending on how much it will cost them for RFA's Faksa, Hintz, Gurianov)

OOPS maybe not, they have performance bonuses of $3-$5 million, they got to sign him though, Bishop is 33 and has probably been on injured reserve as much as playing in his career. I think Oettinger needs more time to marinate in the A.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Sep 15 @ 5:34 PM ET
@TheFourthPeriod

There haven't been any contract talks between the #Flames and D Erik Gustafsson. As of now, the 28-year-old is planning on testing the UFA market next month.

- Theo Fox



Stan needs to swoop in and sign Gus as soon as possible! A 3rd round pick for free plus Gus long term, great work Stan!

6 years x $4 million AAV



Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Sep 15 @ 5:44 PM ET
Stan needs to swoop in and sign Gus as soon as possible! A 3rd round pick for free plus Gus long term, great work Stan!

6 years x $4 million AAV


- DarthKane


Sometimes, I hate you Darth. I just threw up a little.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Sep 15 @ 7:01 PM ET
In DeBoer's press conference, no one asked about his goalie choices during the series.
- LAHawk

Both goalies are media darlings.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 15 @ 8:30 PM ET
They really need to do something about goalie equipment.

Goalies are twice as wide as they are without equipment - how many shots are “accidentally” stopped by bouncing off the plastic, or catching the folds of the sweater?

And the gloves are way too big.

They can certainly protect the tender in net without all of that bulk.

I’m not particularly looking for more goals scored, but I’d like more goalie saves instead of equipment saves.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 15 @ 8:33 PM ET
Second season in a row with a mid-season replacement head coach (Bowness of Dallas) making the Final.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Sep 15 @ 8:58 PM ET
They really need to do something about goalie equipment.

Goalies are twice as wide as they are without equipment - how many shots are “accidentally” stopped by bouncing off the plastic, or catching the folds of the sweater?

And the gloves are way too big.

They can certainly protect the tender in net without all of that bulk.

I’m not particularly looking for more goals scored, but I’d like more goalie saves instead of equipment saves.

- StLBravesFan

Remember J-S Giguere? His equipment was ridiculously huge.

Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Sep 15 @ 9:59 PM ET
Remember J-S Giguere? His equipment was ridiculously huge.


- Theo Fox

I think they should put an absolute limit on goalie equipment size, rather than basing it on the size of the goalie. If the goalie is too big to be adequately protected by the maximum allowable pad size, then he can’t play goalie in the NHL.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 15 @ 10:59 PM ET
Isle a couple of times have had nice long zone time and cycles - to no apparent purpose - nothing to Vasilevskiy.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Sep 15 @ 11:06 PM ET
Thomas Hickey did not play NHL this season. He was a regular 2018-2019 season. Hickey signed a 4 yr contract in July 2018.

This is a player maybe available cheap. I don't know his salary. Experienced veteran. Perhaps a descent third pair if you trade one of your dmen.I do not know why Trotz.went with other guys on defense. Maybe Trotz envisioned each of his dmen playing a certain way, and Hickey lost out? I don't think we can say he lost a step or anything negative. He might be worth a look. Actually what is best to know, is if a team scout saw him last season. Was he in the AHL and or injured. A Bowman type move based upon another prior move this off season?
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Sep 15 @ 11:12 PM ET
Thomas Hickey did not play NHL this season. He was a regular 2018-2019 season. Hickey signed a 4 yr contract in July 2018.

This is a player maybe available cheap. I don't know his salary. Experienced veteran. Perhaps a descent third pair if you trade one of your dmen.I do not know why Trotz.went with other guys on defense. Maybe Trotz envisioned each of his dmen playing a certain way, and Hickey lost out? I don't think we can say he lost a step or anything negative. He might be worth a look. Actually what is best to know, is if a team scout saw him last season. Was he in the AHL and or injured. A Bowman type move based upon another prior move this off season?

- jhawk59

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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Sep 15 @ 11:19 PM ET
Thomas Hickey did not play NHL this season. He was a regular 2018-2019 season. Hickey signed a 4 yr contract in July 2018.

This is a player maybe available cheap. I don't know his salary. Experienced veteran. Perhaps a descent third pair if you trade one of your dmen.I do not know why Trotz.went with other guys on defense. Maybe Trotz envisioned each of his dmen playing a certain way, and Hickey lost out? I don't think we can say he lost a step or anything negative. He might be worth a look. Actually what is best to know, is if a team scout saw him last season. Was he in the AHL and or injured. A Bowman type move based upon another prior move this off season?

- jhawk59



We have enough defenseman with multiple injury history, we don’t need another one.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Sep 15 @ 11:23 PM ET
We have enough defenseman with multiple injury history, we don’t need another one.
- LAHawk


Agreed. Just speculating if we trade a dman, Bowman picks another one up cheap. This is insurance until a prospect is ready BUT more to do with the possibility kids won't be ushered into NHL roles should they not get some games at AHL level because AHL may not have a season
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Sep 15 @ 11:37 PM ET
Agreed. Just speculating if we trade a dman, Boeman picks another one up cheap. This is insurance until a prospect is ready BUT more to do with the possibility kids won't be ushered unto NHL roles should they not get some games at AHL level because AHL may not have a season
- jhawk59



Would rather keep KK for $1 mil., you can always bury that contract
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Sep 16 @ 12:28 AM ET
Would rather keep KK for $1 mil., you can always bury that contract
- LAHawk


Good grief A picture of Charlie Brown alias Elbows with his elbows covering face because he cannot stand to see more Special K. But wait Snoopy to the rescue. Alias Gus returns on a cheap one year deal. Oh no that would be good grief twice.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Sep 16 @ 1:24 AM ET
Thomas Hickey did not play NHL this season. He was a regular 2018-2019 season. Hickey signed a 4 yr contract in July 2018.

This is a player maybe available cheap. I don't know his salary. Experienced veteran. Perhaps a descent third pair if you trade one of your dmen.I do not know why Trotz.went with other guys on defense. Maybe Trotz envisioned each of his dmen playing a certain way, and Hickey lost out? I don't think we can say he lost a step or anything negative. He might be worth a look. Actually what is best to know, is if a team scout saw him last season. Was he in the AHL and or injured. A Bowman type move based upon another prior move this off season?

- jhawk59


Why trade for Hickey when Stan can sign Gustafsson for free.
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