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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 11 @ 6:37 PM ET
Definitely going to happen.
that or some AHL vets/tweeners are going to see an opportunity to try and sign some league min. contracts for NHL spots while some established NHL guys price themselves out of the league.

- BINGO!

That or guys will be paid closer to their real value. Less 50 point players making 6-7M for instance.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Sep 11 @ 6:40 PM ET
Theo enjoyed your blog. JC is in contract talks ? If that's true , it's truly disappointing that Chicago is offering a young inexperienced coach with a losing record a extension.

Regarding Chicago's wingers I see a few areas that need immediate attention solid defensive play from their forwards to help support the defense and a sustainable attack with a hard forechecking


BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 11 @ 6:42 PM ET
Bingo - we’re not far from SK - come down sometime and watch your “futures” play in Rosemont....
- StLBravesFan


2100 km from where I live.

But i was hoping to drive down to Raleigh when this is all done, and the fastest route is via Chicago anyway so.... Might be able to plan a stop on a road trip through there.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 11 @ 6:42 PM ET
That or guys will be paid closer to their real value. Less 50 point players making 6-7M for instance.
- Elbows15


True, true.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 11 @ 6:47 PM ET
2100 km from where I live.

But i was hoping to drive down to Raleigh when this is all done, and the fastest route is via Chicago anyway so.... Might be able to plan a stop on a road trip through there.

- BINGO!

i will show you all the good spots.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Sep 11 @ 6:48 PM ET
Theo enjoyed your blog. JC is in contract talks ? If that's true , it's truly disappointing that Chicago is offering a young inexperienced coach with a losing record a extension.

Regarding Chicago's wingers I see a few areas that need immediate attention solid defensive play from their forwards to help support the defense and a sustainable attack with a hard forechecking

- Taylorst1

Thanks, Taylor.

Supporting the defense and sustaining the forecheck are definitely areas of work for the wingers.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Sep 11 @ 6:49 PM ET
Lehner reportedly getting new contract with Vegas at $5M x 5 years.
- Theo Fox

Lehner now saying he hasn't sign anything yet despite reports saying he did.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 11 @ 6:51 PM ET
True, true.
- BINGO!

and players may have to put together a couple of good seasons before seeing a drastic jump in salary. too many players get paid for their one magical season instead of what is their career norms. much harder with guys coming off their ELCs but GMs often fail to use their leverage in those situations.

i am actually on the players' side when it comes to making as much as they can because their earning window is limited .
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 11 @ 6:52 PM ET
Lehner now saying he hasn't sign anything yet despite reports saying he did.
- Theo Fox

I mean this with all props to what you bring, but (frank) Lard Ass.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 11 @ 6:56 PM ET
Thanks, Taylor.

Supporting the defense and sustaining the forecheck are definitely areas of work for the wingers.

- Theo Fox

Personally believe this is where the lack of mobility on defense is a huge problem. Asking forwards to try to forecheck without much support from the D-men just won't work. I agree the forwards needs to do a better job but with the D-men playing so far back because of their lack of speed, its pretty difficult for the forwards keep reasonable gaps and be effective on the forecheck.

The Hawks need to be a trap team with the current make-up of D-men.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Sep 11 @ 6:59 PM ET
Lehner now saying he hasn't sign anything yet despite reports saying he did.
- Theo Fox




If that is true , wow that's a good deal for a 28 year old 5x5 . Chicago if they signed him they might be looking back and saying wish we had t committed 5 million , based on the covid affecting the salary caps future. But it's a good deal
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Sep 11 @ 7:02 PM ET
Personally believe this is where the lack of mobility on defense is a huge problem. Asking forwards to try to forecheck without much support from the D-men just won't work. I agree the forwards needs to do a better job but with the D-men playing so far back because of their lack of speed, its pretty difficult for the forwards keep reasonable gaps and be effective on the forecheck.

The Hawks need to be a trap team with the current make-up of D-men.

- Elbows15



Elbow that's what I was thinking the other day . The trap was used by New Jersey and effectively they won a cup playing the trap.

It's boring hockey but Chicago doesn't have the horses to play a fast hard forechecking and stay responsible defensively
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Sep 11 @ 7:10 PM ET
You might not want to draft a Russian goalie if available at #17, but, 3 of the final 4 NHL playoff teams haVe a Russian goalie. 1st time it’s ever happened.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 11 @ 7:34 PM ET
You might not want to draft a Russian goalie if available at #17, but, 3 of the final 4 NHL playoff teams haVe a Russian goalie. 1st time it’s ever happened.
- scottak

Khudobin isn't Russian.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Sep 11 @ 8:00 PM ET
Bjugstad with salary retained to Wild for a conditional 7th round pick
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Sep 11 @ 8:26 PM ET
Some will have to shed a couple million but most will be fine. Going to need some league minimum contracts.
- BINGO!

We had this discussion a month ago. You can't shed contracts if nobody will take the player and they have years left. Shaw, deHaan, Smith, Seabrook type players to use them as an example.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Sep 11 @ 8:33 PM ET
Bjugstad with salary retained to Wild for a conditional 7th round pick
- ikeane


Dang... that’s not much of a return.

Edit: the pens are retaining 50%. Doesn’t paint a nice picture for trading Smith or Maatta. At least Maatta has some value though.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Sep 11 @ 8:41 PM ET
Dang... that’s not much of a return.
- DarthKane


Pure salary dump
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Sep 11 @ 8:55 PM ET
I mean this with all props to what you bring, but (frank) Lard Ass.
- Elbows15

No worries! I'm in the camp that think the Blackhawks made the right choice to trade Lehner for whatever assets they could get.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 11 @ 8:57 PM ET
Dang... that’s not much of a return.

Edit: the pens are retaining 50%. Doesn’t paint a nice picture for trading Smith or Maatta. At least Maatta has some value though.

- DarthKane

Bjustad had no value at all. Pretty sure we all knew Smith has no value back when he was acquired. I would take that deal for Maatta. 2026 7th for Maatta if he is still in the league.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Sep 11 @ 8:59 PM ET
Personally believe this is where the lack of mobility on defense is a huge problem. Asking forwards to try to forecheck without much support from the D-men just won't work. I agree the forwards needs to do a better job but with the D-men playing so far back because of their lack of speed, its pretty difficult for the forwards keep reasonable gaps and be effective on the forecheck.

The Hawks need to be a trap team with the current make-up of D-men.

- Elbows15

Agree with you here. It's not just the forwards but the blueliners need a stronger transition game.

With the D corps progressively getting younger over the next few years, that should help as Boqvist and the prospects are more mobile and many are billed as mail carriers.

Where the defensemen and forwards need to both improve is passing. The D need to make one quick, crisp pass out of the zone with the forwards being open to receive the pass cleanly then do something productive with it to continue the attack.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 11 @ 9:01 PM ET
Wait. Someone gave Zack Smith a M-NTC? He has to submit a 10 team no trade list. Like his play isn't a 30 team no trade list.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Sep 11 @ 9:03 PM ET
Personally believe this is where the lack of mobility on defense is a huge problem. Asking forwards to try to forecheck without much support from the D-men just won't work. I agree the forwards needs to do a better job but with the D-men playing so far back because of their lack of speed, its pretty difficult for the forwards keep reasonable gaps and be effective on the forecheck.

The Hawks need to be a trap team with the current make-up of D-men.

- Elbows15


Perhaps not necessarily a trap, but definitely a simplified, defensively-oriented system. Oh, and all the players need to be committed to executing it - like NYI.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 11 @ 9:05 PM ET
Agree with you here. It's not just the forwards but the blueliners need a stronger transition game.

With the D corps progressively getting younger over the next few years, that should help as Boqvist and the prospects are more mobile and many are billed as mail carriers.

Where the defensemen and forwards need to both improve is passing. The D need to make one quick, crisp pass out of the zone with the forwards being open to receive the pass cleanly then do something productive with it to continue the attack.

- Theo Fox

The heck with progressively. Get them in there ASAP. Bowman needs to be looking to get rid of Maatta, Special K and de Haan by any means necessary. Or have them visit the Khabby staircase.



Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Sep 11 @ 9:07 PM ET
Bjustad had no value at all. Pretty sure we all knew Smith has no value back when he was acquired. I would take that deal for Maatta. 2026 7th for Maatta if he is still in the league.
- Elbows15


Would you retain half his salary too?... I wouldn’t. Maatta should at least warrant a clean salary trade - or perhaps some comparable salary coming back in a player contract.
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