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wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 11 @ 4:18 PM ET
Agreed , and they are doing a nice job of protecting him from the Isle bullies who are targeting him...

they are doing NO OFFER sheets.

- wiz1901


and why the frank would the Russian kid want to come to a team where no can talk to him in his native tongue or why would he leave a team with chances to win for the next stretch for one that there are chances they MIGHT be in the playoff?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Sep 11 @ 4:19 PM ET
and why the frank would the Russian kid want to come to a team where no can talk to him in his native tongue or why would he leave a team with chances to win for the next stretch for one that there are chances they MIGHT be in the playoff?
- wiz1901


Money, common Wiz
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 11 @ 4:24 PM ET
Money, common Wiz
- BetweenTheDots



You dont think the young Russian defenseman can stay in Tampa Bay and garnish lots of dollars once he is a polished nhler?

I do.

You get more experience if you play in the playoffs, not fill your pockets and tip big at the Russian Tea Time restaurant on Adams.

and remember no state income tax here in Florida...
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Sep 11 @ 4:31 PM ET
You dont think nk the young Russian defenseman can stay in Tampa Bay and garnish lots of dollars once he is a polished nhler?

I do.

You get more experience if you play in the playoffs, not fill your pockets and tip big at the Russian Tea Time restaurant on Adams.

and remember no state income tax here in Florida...

- wiz1901


Panarin and Bobrovsky sure followed the money.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Sep 11 @ 4:37 PM ET
NHL announces that free agency and the league year starts on Oct 9. Regarding the league year, I think that's when salary bonuses are paid and, in the case of Saad, when his modified NTC for next season kicks in.

Interesting thing I found on capfriendly.com about Saad is that even though his AAV is 6M, he is getting paid 6.5M next season. Usually see contracts front loaded in terms of payout not back loaded

- boilermaker100

Columbus was cheap, hoping for inflation to bring in more dollars...
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Sep 11 @ 4:38 PM ET
You dont think nk the young Russian defenseman can stay in Tampa Bay and garnish lots of dollars once he is a polished nhler?

I do.

You get more experience if you play in the playoffs, not fill your pockets and tip big at the Russian Tea Time restaurant on Adams.

and remember no state income tax here in Florida...

- wiz1901


I find it hard to believe a kid who is offered a contract where he's making more in 1 year than he did in his previous entire contract is going to say no i want to stay here and make less? His agent will say the magic words, if you sign this the Bolts will probably match it and you stay in Florida.
RaleighHawk
Joined: 03.29.2016

Sep 11 @ 4:39 PM ET
Not to say his opinion is wrong but there's probably some context and/or nuance more than simply "it won't work in the NHL". The larger ice surface alone would change the equation. I would be interested in hearing the reason(s) he based his opinion on.
- EbonyRaptor

He did mention the larger ice surface there allows players more time to cover up any mistakes.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Sep 11 @ 4:40 PM ET
All of us reading and blogging on hockeybuzz are fortunate, indeed, and grateful not only for Tyler's superb job, but also for Theo's thoroughness and keen insight now that the baton has been handed off

An area of some concern to myself has been mentioned a few times in past months but I do not know if anyone has answer about a situation soon to be at hand. This is about the prospects Theo says need to marinate in Rockford. But there is no "Rockford files" pertaining to the feasibility of an AHL season which makes sense economically for member AHL teams to play out.

As far as I know fan attendance is paramount. Loads of PR, interactive stuff, and just fan interaction with the team does drive ticket sales. But with covid19 there is no turning to a fat TV cable contract for revenue, so how can teams stay afloat? How does a season even happen. Could there be a situation develop akin to MLB wherin they have a minor league practice site? But are games even played. Maybe they simulate with intra squad contests?

I am confidant we have some descent prospects but I wonder about their timeline to reach NHL level in light of covid19 effect on minor league hockey.

I also want to point out to a red letter day. Actually it is a red diary which Special K maintained. Excellent story about how how he turned his season around over at The Athletic. Elbows though is surely not going to say anything positive about his least admired Blackhawk

- jhawk59

Yes all minor league sports are in a pickle. Some of the Triple A teams actually have TV contracts but I'm sure not many and that doesn't help the many more who do not they can't play themselves. At least in hockey, every team is in the same boat with this but it is a very bad situation for the business of minor league sports as well as the player development. I doubt the major league teams are in a position to help.

RaleighHawk
Joined: 03.29.2016

Sep 11 @ 4:42 PM ET
I have the same opinion of Versteeg. Entertaining for those that like his brand of personality but he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

RaleighHawk: This isn't a knock on you at all, by the way! You're just sharing what you heard on that podcast.

- Theo Fox

No worries. It was actually one of the better interviews on Chiclets for entertainment value--not necessarily learning anything new.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Sep 11 @ 4:45 PM ET
i for one find it really odd the NHL didn't include some sort of buy out or cap relief. a flat cap is gonna be hell for alot of teams.
- SaskHawkFan

I totally expected some kind of cap "amnesty." I don't think every team can get compliant without it? They simply can't afford buyouts.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Sep 11 @ 4:49 PM ET
This is a joke, right?

Comparing their stats (Games Played, Goals, Assists, Points, Shooting Percentage, Points Per Games, Even Streingth Goals, Even Streignth Points, Power Play Goals, Power Play Points, Shots on Goal, and +/-) over that past three years, DeBrincat's numbers are all better than Bertuzzi's. Some real points to look at are Goals(87 vs. 49), +/- (-5 vs -19), and points (173 vs 119). The biggest difference I see though is that DeBrincat has scored 30 ppgs in 3 years and has 53 ppps. Bertuzzi is nowhere near as dangerous, only scoring 7 goals and adding in 22 points.

So, in your trade, your moving DeBrincat for an RFA (AKA, will need a new contract) who, at best is just a larger DeBrincat who doesn't score as much, and isn't a threat on the powerplay. Unless you find someone to take DeBrincat's spot on the PP, you just made the powerplay weaker, which means there's less incentive for other teams to worry about it. Furthermore, you've moved away a center, which are harder to come by than wings, in what is essentially a player for player swap, and we must now find another center to play 3rd line. I understand Strome is probably not the answer for 3rd line c, but throwing him away is stupid. He as value, and would be better served in a center for center swap.

Personally, if I were Steve Yzerman, and someone offered me this deal, I would take it in a second, laughing as I did.

- Jance

The only person who worries about our power play is our goalie.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Sep 11 @ 4:49 PM ET
Illinois tax rate is 5% so $200,000 less they'll be able to offer, not much of a savings when you're already pressed against the cap

Not an accountant but i think they tax these players when they play in other states so technically i guess he's on the hook for $100k for the home games....
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 11 @ 5:01 PM ET
Panarin and Bobrovsky sure followed the money.
- LAHawk


sure did, but they were bonafide players and finished developing not still in progress.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 11 @ 5:04 PM ET
Wait, is that a hand shake under the table? Or did they publicly say this
- BetweenTheDots



The Hawks are no gonna offer any one an offer sheet is what I am saying.

TB is doing a nice job of protecting the Serchy from the rough stuff they are attempting to inflict on him, from what I see....

maybe who publicly said what? that they are not offering guys foremother teams money when they are RFAs?

The RFA has to WANT TO COME to Chicago for that to happen.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 11 @ 5:04 PM ET
I totally expected some kind of cap "amnesty." I don't think every team can get compliant without it? They simply can't afford buyouts.
- rpeters01


It's real simple:

The players hitting free agency either take way less money or they don't get to play.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 11 @ 5:13 PM ET
It's real simple:

The players hitting free agency either take way less money or they don't get to play.

- BINGO!



B into, RPETERS is not incorrect that the original intent of the Cap was that with the economies in both countries on an upward swing that it was going to keep jumping up and up and after the hawks were about to win their second one there predictions of it massively increasing and the loonie went down, and that was that.

Yeah the players are gonna get a douse of tough love and may look to see if the can go to Switzerland or somewhere but are gonna cool and settle.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Sep 11 @ 5:16 PM ET
The Hawks are no gonna offer any one an offer sheet is what I am saying.

TB is doing a nice job of protecting the Serchy from the rough stuff they are attempting to inflict on him, from what I see....

maybe who publicly said what? that they are not offering guys foremother teams money when they are RFAs?

The RFA has to WANT TO COME to Chicago for that to happen.

- wiz1901


I guess we'll see, you're probably right. The RFA might just want to get paid, i imagine if Bolts offer him $2 million and any other team offers $4 mil, he won't care where he has to move to. Hjalmarsson had no problem signing an offer sheet, neither did Weber, I'm missing someone else, Aho
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Sep 11 @ 5:17 PM ET
It's real simple:

The players hitting free agency either take way less money or they don't get to play.

- BINGO!


Probably 1 to 2 year contracts
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Sep 11 @ 5:37 PM ET
It's real simple:

The players hitting free agency either take way less money or they don't get to play.

- BINGO!

I don't think every team can get compliant doing that?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 11 @ 5:44 PM ET
I don't think every team can get compliant doing that?
- rpeters01


Some will have to shed a couple million but most will be fine. Going to need some league minimum contracts.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 11 @ 6:13 PM ET
Some will have to shed a couple million but most will be fine. Going to need some league minimum contracts.
- BINGO!

Perhaps some useful players won’t get contracts - and some young prospects moved to the show too soon.
Jance
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 03.25.2015

Sep 11 @ 6:15 PM ET
The only person who worries about our power play is our goalie.
- rpeters01


Exactly, can you imagine if it was any worse?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 11 @ 6:23 PM ET
Perhaps some useful players won’t get contracts - and some young prospects moved to the show too soon.
- StLBravesFan


Definitely going to happen.
that or some AHL vets/tweeners are going to see an opportunity to try and sign some league min. contracts for NHL spots while some established NHL guys price themselves out of the league.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 11 @ 6:31 PM ET
Definitely going to happen.
that or some AHL vets/tweeners are going to see an opportunity to try and sign some league min. contracts for NHL spots while some established NHL guys price themselves out of the league.

- BINGO!

Bingo - we’re not far from SK - come down sometime and watch your “futures” play in Rosemont....
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 11 @ 6:35 PM ET
Bingo - we’re not far from SK - come down sometime and watch your “futures” play in Rosemont....
- StLBravesFan

Need to offer him some sheep to really entice him.
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