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Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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There isn't a point where that's an option. Gate revenue is a drop in the bucket compared to TV deals. They need to keep playing to keep fans interested and those going. - BlackSwan
This is not accurate.(using 2018-19 numbers) A healthy NHL makes $5 Billion US a year in total Revenue. All Numbers is $US
4 Major sources of Revenue of revenue are:
1) Gate Receipts
2) TV Revenue
3) Merchandise and Concession Stands
4) Gambling
No other sport in North America relies as heavily on Gate Receipts as Hockey.
Annual Revenue from TV deals $600 Million (Canadian TV rights), ($200 Million US rights)
This shows that the overwhelming majority of the money earned under the current TV Contract is from Gate receipts. Teams rely heavily on expensive luxury boxes.
An interesting side note. The average ticket price in Toronto is about $300 US while the least expensive seats in Calgary are $30. |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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They will make an impact by just being better defensively than what we have. Give me 2 of: Ekblad, Pesce, Tanev, Brodie, Severson, Manson, DeMelo, Parayko, Gudas, Hamonic, Hamilton, Brodin, Weegar, Savard or Larsson. - matt1337
I like Demelo/Brodin/Larsson
I also picked them for cost of acquisition and likely cap hit. I agree that a single big player won't necessarily make the team great. Look at Karlsson with the Sharks. They were a bottom feeder this year and have two of the best d-men in the league.
I think a couple guys who can skate and defend is what the leafs need.
If they bring in AP I'm still on the side of moving Rielly to fill the D around AP.
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Agree, very similar players. - bixll
One can shoot, one can't. Aside from being small and weightless, what's the similarity? |
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matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON Joined: 09.28.2010
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I like Demelo/Brodin/Larsson
I also picked them for cost of acquisition and likely cap hit. I agree that a single big player won't necessarily make the team great. Look at Karlsson with the Sharks. They were a bottom feeder this year and have two of the best d-men in the league.
I think a couple guys who can skate and defend is what the leafs need.
If they bring in AP I'm still on the side of moving Rielly to fill the D around AP. - Aaron_85
Rielly bleeds blue, I'd rather keep him, and he won't command as much as Pietrangelo will. I wouldn't be opposed to Demelo/Brodin/Larsson. I would like for them to add 1 bigger name guy though, even if that is only Manson/Severson. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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I honestly think it is a mistake to sign AP and have Holl in our top 4. Injuries happen and if AP goes down, we are left with Holl as our best RD? we need 2 RD, not just 1. I'd rather 2 players that make up AP's salary and have Holl on the 3rd pairing. - matt1337
thats a legit concern, and its mentioned in the article.
that lineup doesnt leave much if you hit a few injuries
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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One can shoot, one can't. Aside from being small and weightless, what's the similarity? - AdamFrench
Play makers. Love to have the puck. I may be wrong with Robertson, such a small sample size. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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The honest answer was this season. Minimum.
The economic one? When someone passes away directly from attending or being a part of the game.
Also, gate revenue is hopeful. I stand corrected. It's unlikely but the teams also need ANY revenue so if they are on tv they hopefully also can get merch sales or whatever. The fans in the stands at pro sports events in the USA will be predicated on how the NFL implements it.
Problem is, NFL has to worry about one day a week. - Aaron_85
Good article here on what each NFL team is doing:
https://www.newsweek.com/...onavirus-outbreak-1530273
Dallas fans are going to die. |
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matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON Joined: 09.28.2010
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thats a legit concern, and its mentioned in the article.
that lineup doesnt leave much if you hit a few injuries - senstroll
I hope they don't put all their eggs in 1 basket. Spread it out and make the whole defence better as a collective. |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Rielly bleeds blue, I'd rather keep him, and he won't command as much as Pietrangelo will. I wouldn't be opposed to Demelo/Brodin/Larsson. I would like for them to add 1 bigger name guy though, even if that is only Manson/Severson. - matt1337
I'm just trying to come up with out of the box thinking. Maybe it's not finding a partner for Rielly that's the issue, maybe it's Rielly? Also, there's no indication he will be cheaper than AP.
I'd also be content with Rielly staying and adding in a couple depth guys. Dermott can be moved I think and I believe he's the odd man out at this point.
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underhill14
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Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool Joined: 06.02.2010
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I hope they don't put all their eggs in 1 basket. Spread it out and make the whole defence better as a collective. - matt1337
This.
And I agree with your last view posts.
AP is a luxury we can't afford with the 4for40forwards.
We need to add 2RDs not one really expensive one.
Our left side is fine:
Rielly
Muzzin
Dermott
Sandin
Our right side is nothing but one big Holl.
Edit: also doesn't get mentioned enough, the COVID issue must have really fu2ked up Dubas' plans. With the flat CAP the next few years, the Leafs are screwed...so are other teams...but I'm sure Dubas was expecting a CAP increase in his master plan. Oooops! |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Holl and muzzin were pretty good together, I would keep him for now.
Id rather trade Dermot and put Sandin in his place - senstroll
Only thing Holl has an Dermott is the way he shoots. Move Dermott to the right side with Muzzin. Bottom pair can change between Liljegren, Sandin, and Lehtonen. Lots of money saved there. |
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matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON Joined: 09.28.2010
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I'm just trying to come up with out of the box thinking. Maybe it's not finding a partner for Rielly that's the issue, maybe it's Rielly? Also, there's no indication he will be cheaper than AP.
I'd also be content with Rielly staying and adding in a couple depth guys. Dermott can be moved I think and I believe he's the odd man out at this point. - Aaron_85
I'd rather keep Dermott than Holl. Dermott can move to the right side, plus he's younger. I think we will regret moving him.
I don't think it is that hard to give Rielly the best partner he's had here, considering his best was Hainsey. Just give him someone that is capable defensively and doesn't get scared when they get the puck. Ceci was horrible to watch.
Just do it for Rielly, he's earned that at least. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Rielly bleeds blue, I'd rather keep him, and he won't command as much as Pietrangelo will. I wouldn't be opposed to Demelo/Brodin/Larsson. I would like for them to add 1 bigger name guy though, even if that is only Manson/Severson. - matt1337
I have a deep, deep fear that the Canucks are going to come after him hard in free agency. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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I hope they don't put all their eggs in 1 basket. Spread it out and make the whole defence better as a collective. - matt1337
if you could get a comparable legit top #1 D for less, then Id say go for it.
but man, i dont want to get into the same spot against a good team where they have Hedman and we have 2 lessers D that cant be counted on to play top mins.
AP is that player..Leafs lost Muzzin and were in trouble
Rielly is good, but lack a lot in the shut down role...he aint good enough |
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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They will make an impact by just being better defensively than what we have. Give me 2 of: Ekblad, Pesce, Tanev, Brodie, Severson, Manson, DeMelo, Parayko, Gudas, Hamonic, Hamilton, Brodin, Weegar, Savard or Larsson. - matt1337
None of those players are anywhere close to Pietro's calibre.
Also, they wont trade Eklblad, and his cap hit is only 1 million less then would Pietro is likely to get, so not sure how you add another after that.
Most of the players list wont be traded IMO(Hamilton/Parayko/Severson/Pesce). Id take DeMelo, Brodie, Gudas as secondary pieces only.
Via trade Brodin would be nice, but again will cost a lot.
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matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON Joined: 09.28.2010
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This.
And I agree with your last view posts.
AP is a luxury we can't afford with the 4for40forwards.
We need to add 2RDs not one really expensive one.
Our left side is fine:
Rielly
Muzzin
Dermott
Sandin
Our right side is nothing but one big Holl. - underhill14
Leafs can even make room by switching Dermott to the right side if Sandin needs to make the team. That also helps if one of the new RD goes down, other plays with Rielly, Dermott jumps up to play with Muzzin and Holl plays with Sandin.
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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I have a deep, deep fear that the Canucks are going to come after him hard in free agency. - Atomic Wedgie
Doubt theyll have the cap for it honestly
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matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON Joined: 09.28.2010
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I have a deep, deep fear that the Canucks are going to come after him hard in free agency. - Atomic Wedgie
Too bad he grew up a leafs fan and his dad is a die hard. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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I have a deep, deep fear that the Canucks are going to come after him hard in free agency. - Atomic Wedgie
Hoping the fear of his dad disowning him keeps that from ever happening. |
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matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON Joined: 09.28.2010
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None of those players are anywhere close to Pietro's calibre.
Also, they wont trade Eklblad, and his cap hit is only 1 million less then would Pietro is likely to get, so not sure how you add another after that.
Most of the players list wont be traded IMO(Hamilton/Parayko/Severson/Pesce). Id take DeMelo, Brodie, Gudas as secondary pieces only.
Via trade Brodin would be nice, but again will cost a lot. - Archaic
Not looking to get someone of Pietro's calibre, just guys that improve our right side. Any 2 capable RD improve that side exponentially compared to what we have had in the past. |
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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Not looking to get someone of Pietro's calibre, just guys that improve our right side. Any 2 capable RD improve that side exponentially compared to what we have had in the past. - matt1337
I think Pietro makes them better alone then any two of the rest of the free agents. Trades drain assets as well and weaken the team in other areas, but Parayko would be perfect
Welp, I guess the one thing we all agree on is to go furiously after Taylor Hall right? right?
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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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I think Pietro makes them better alone then any two of the rest of the free agents. Trades drain assets as well and weaken the team in other areas, but Parayko would be perfect
Welp, I guess the one thing we all agree on is to go furiously after Taylor Hall right? right?
- Archaic
They won't be able to afford AP without a trade. |
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bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.28.2011
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I think Pietro makes them better alone then any two of the rest of the free agents. Trades drain assets as well and weaken the team in other areas, but Parayko would be perfect
Welp, I guess the one thing we all agree on is to go furiously after Taylor Hall right? right?
- Archaic
Sign hall and big buff and trade for a goalie
Worst case scenario if the leafs miss the playoffs they’ll get the 1st overall with hall on the team.
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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They won't be able to afford AP without a trade. - bobbyisno1
Thats true, but then you gain more assets back that can be used for drafts or to increase the prospect pool. Also, trading away someone like Kerfoot isnt a big deal to me.
That capital you would have to trade to get Parayko would be large and would hurt the roster deeper IMO. Again, I dont think it's even possible to get Pietro, hell resign.
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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Sign hall and big buff and trade for a goalie
Worst case scenario if the leafs miss the playoffs they’ll get the 1st overall with hall on the team. - bryant
Id love to get Buff. We could use his size and toughness, I dont know if he's going to play again though TBH.
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