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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks offseason talk: Markstrom, Demko, Toffoli and Virtanen
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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Sep 11 @ 4:39 PM ET
Miller Petey Boeser
Pearson Horvat Toffoli
Hoglander Gaudette Leivo
Mac Beagle/*trade* Motte
Lind/Bailey/Michaelis

Hughes Tanev
OJ Myers
Edler *trade*
Rathbone/Fatty

Demko
Marky

- NewYorkNuck

I think it would be good to switch Hoglander and Pearson here, But I like this.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 11 @ 4:46 PM ET
I think bigger is the key. Even when Myers came back, he wasn't being run off the puck like Stetch, Fatty, Tanev, and Hughes were. He was able to stand his ground. Look at Tampa – their defense are big tall dudes. It's not always about gooning forecheckers, but just being able to take some bumps without flying.
- NewYorkNuck

For sure, Tampa has big defensemen that continually punish opposition forwards, doesn’t have to be bone crushing hits, but they add up over a series. I think Brian Burke mentioned something similar on his segment.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 11 @ 4:58 PM ET
“Friedman says VAN likes to keep Tanev but worried about the $ and Stecher but they’re worried about the Arbitration $. Says VAN would love to rebuild their Blue-line to defend better as a group. “Their number 1 priority”.”

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 11 @ 5:11 PM ET
“Friedman says VAN likes to keep Tanev but worried about the $ and Stecher but they’re worried about the Arbitration $. Says VAN would love to rebuild their Blue-line to defend better as a group. “Their number 1 priority”.”


- Pacificgem


That is the problem with fans , they get attached to the players

They can't have change if they bring back the same group.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 11 @ 5:16 PM ET
That is the problem with fans , they get attached to the players

They can't have change if they bring back the same group.

- VANTEL

There’s always multiple layers to everything though, it’s easy to say you want change in the form of better players but it’s not always an easy thing to do.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 11 @ 5:22 PM ET
JTM Petey Boeser
Pearson Bo Toffoli
Hoglander Trade Motte
Leivo Bailey Zack/Lind

Edler Ristolainen
Hughes Tanev
OJ Schenn
Benn



NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 11 @ 5:32 PM ET
I think it would be good to switch Hoglander and Pearson here, But I like this.
- Retinalz


I can see that happening through the year. He'll start on the third and then move up with injuries/line juggling. He'll need to be sheltered a bit, and Pearson is a much more responsible 200' player, especially when playing with Bo in a shut down role
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 11 @ 5:33 PM ET
“Friedman says VAN likes to keep Tanev but worried about the $ and Stecher but they’re worried about the Arbitration $. Says VAN would love to rebuild their Blue-line to defend better as a group. “Their number 1 priority”.”


- Pacificgem


Cant' keep those two guys AND rebuild the back end. If they're both kept, you can only really move out Fatty and Benn
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 11 @ 5:35 PM ET
Cant' keep those two guys AND rebuild the back end. If they're both kept, you can only really move out Fatty and Benn
- NewYorkNuck

I told Vantel a few days and I expect Virtanen and Stecher to be shipped out. I don’t think Fattenberg will be back either.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 11 @ 5:40 PM ET
Cant' keep those two guys AND rebuild the back end. If they're both kept, you can only really move out Fatty and Benn
- NewYorkNuck



Tryamkin is the bigger more mobile D that can be brought in once they sort out the top end money on cap. I'm not sure if he's got an out or walk away clause in 1yr KHL contract.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 11 @ 5:42 PM ET
Virtanen & Stecher to Ottawa...

* for Logan Brown and two 2nd round picks

Virtanen, Stecher & Gaudette to Ottawa...

* for Logan Brown, 1st rnd pick (Islanders) and a 2nd round pick (Islanders)
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 11 @ 6:03 PM ET
Virtanen & Stecher to Ottawa...

* for Logan Brown and two 2nd round picks

Virtanen, Stecher & Gaudette to Ottawa...

* for Logan Brown, 1st rnd pick (Islanders) and a 2nd round pick (Islanders)

- Pacificgem


Add LE or Baertschi in there and take one pick out. But yes, I'm pretty positive Virt and Stetch have played their last games as Canucks. Sucks for them, as they literally cheered for this team growing up
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 11 @ 6:07 PM ET
Add LE or Baertschi in there and take one pick out. But yes, I'm pretty positive Virt and Stetch have played their last games as Canucks. Sucks for them, as they literally cheered for this team growing up
- NewYorkNuck



If they avoid arbitration and take less then Canucks more likely to keep them.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 11 @ 6:29 PM ET
Virtanen & Stecher to Ottawa...

* for Logan Brown and two 2nd round picks

Virtanen, Stecher & Gaudette to Ottawa...

* for Logan Brown, 1st rnd pick (Islanders) and a 2nd round pick (Islanders)

- Pacificgem


Sens got 6 RFA's with Arb rights on only 10 roster players. You think this cheap team would want to add 2 more that would hold out for max award if traded to them?

Maybe they would like cash certainty with more cap but less $ and term contracts. One of like Rous and Sutter who can also provide the intangibles for their young group.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 11 @ 6:30 PM ET
If they avoid arbitration and take less then Canucks more likely to keep them.
- NuckUp

They could also MTA them and then re-sign them for less.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 11 @ 6:30 PM ET
Virtanen & Stecher to Ottawa...

* for Logan Brown and two 2nd round picks

Virtanen, Stecher & Gaudette to Ottawa...

* for Logan Brown, 1st rnd pick (Islanders) and a 2nd round pick (Islanders)

- Pacificgem


I could see Detroit interested in a deal like that, with Rasmussen and/or Cholowski involved.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 11 @ 6:32 PM ET
They could also MTA them and then re-sign them for less.
- Marwood

....no......
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 11 @ 6:34 PM ET
They could also MTA them and then re-sign them for less.
- Marwood



What the fuc k is an MTA, again?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 11 @ 6:41 PM ET
Someone was arguing earlier about Gaudette having a 0.57 ppg during the season, he was 0.00000ppg during the playoffs, when things matter.
For a skinny kid who doesn't provide much, other than some points, those playoff numbers are unacceptable.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 11 @ 6:43 PM ET
What the fuc k is an MTA, again?
- Reubenkincade



Are you trying to add on to a super lame troll attempt where there is no agreement to mutually terminate a RFA?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Sep 11 @ 7:56 PM ET
What is Pitts up to??
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 11 @ 8:05 PM ET
What is Pitts up to??
- dbot


Why?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 11 @ 8:06 PM ET
What is Pitts up to??
- dbot


From their twitter:

The conditional pick will give the Penguins five picks in the 2021 draft.

five whole picks
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 11 @ 8:10 PM ET
From their twitter:

The conditional pick will give the Penguins five picks in the 2021 draft.

five whole picks

- NewYorkNuck



He was on the list
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Sep 11 @ 8:13 PM ET
Why?
- VANTEL


Bjustad to minny for a late pick?
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