just thinking out loud, based on who I want the sens to draft at 5.

if Raymond is gone to Det at 4, would the sens consider trading 5 to NJ for 7 and 18 or 7 and 20? would NJ make that deal?

just thinking out loud, based on who I want the sens to draft at 5.

if Raymond is gone to Det at 4, would the sens consider trading 5 to NJ for 7 and 18 or 7 and 20? would NJ make that deal?
- sensarmy_11

personally I think Ottawa would just stay at 5 and take Rossi from the Ottawa 67's

personally I think Ottawa would just stay at 5 and take Rossi from the Ottawa 67's
- jimbro83

I suppose it depends on who they get at 3. if they get Byfield then they don't need Rossi.....then it makes sense to make that trade and maybe take Holtz at 7.

Ottawa's 2 glaring needs are #1 C and an offensive RW.....they need to come out of the 1st round with one of each

I suppose it depends on who they get at 3. if they get Byfield then they don't need Rossi.....then it makes sense to make that trade and maybe take Holtz at 7.

Ottawa's 2 glaring needs are #1 C and an offensive RW.....they need to come out of the 1st round with one of each
- sensarmy_11

if Rossi is available at 5 and Ottawa doesn't want him, I think the amount of calls they get will be over the moon to get to that spot

there actually a good comparison and it happened with the Rangers and Ottawa ironically enough in 2018


Ottawa was picking 22nd, Rangers 26th

Rangers traded 26th and 48th overall to 22nd and took K'Andre Miller

Ottawa took Jacob Bernard-Docker and Jonny Tychonick with those picks
- jimbro83

Interesting comparison. I also think Ottawa's 2nd may be over-payment too, but it looks like .the Isles and Stars 2nds wouldn't be enough.

Columbus picks 52 by my math, which is likely not be enough to move up 6 spots in this draft, but its in the ballpark.

if Rossi is available at 5 and Ottawa doesn't want him, I think the amount of calls they get will be over the moon to get to that spot
- jimbro83

I think if they get Stutzle at 3, then they would take Rossi at 5 for sure.......I think it will get interesting if they get Byfield at 3, and then Raymond is gone.........but who the hell knows what Dorion is thinking.

I think if they get Stutzle at 3, then they would take Rossi at 5 for sure.......I think it will get interesting if they get Byfield at 3, and then Raymond is gone.........but who the hell knows what Dorion is thinking.
- sensarmy_11

I can see Ottawa talking to Detroit about moving from 5 to 4 to guarantee who they want

I think if they get Stutzle at 3, then they would take Rossi at 5 for sure.......I think it will get interesting if they get Byfield at 3, and then Raymond is gone.........but who the hell knows what Dorion is thinking.
- sensarmy_11

I still think Ottawa should Pad both ends of the rink with those drafts.

#3 Byfield/Stutzle (Whichever isn't picked #2)
#5 Drysdale

That way you get a potential superstar on the front end and you solidify your D core on the back end for the future.

I would still wonder what it would take to trade for #4 so we could pick #3,#4 and #5 and also grab Rossi

I think if they get Stutzle at 3, then they would take Rossi at 5 for sure.......I think it will get interesting if they get Byfield at 3, and then Raymond is gone.........but who the hell knows what Dorion is thinking.
- sensarmy_11

I dont think dorion will trade down. I'd personally be rather opposed to it unless it's a big overpayment.

I think Detroit takes Perfetti or Rossi.

If Raymond is done then take Rossi or Perfetti, despite the weakness at Rw.

I still think Ottawa should Pad both ends of the rink with those drafts.

#3 Byfield/Stutzle (Whichever isn't picked #2)
#5 Drysdale

That way you get a potential superstar on the front end and you solidify your D core on the back end for the future.

I would still wonder what it would take to trade for #4 so we could pick #3,#4 and #5 and also grab Rossi
- Maverick1818

I really want one of the forwards, but if Dorion takes drysdale at 5 I wouldnt be too upset, if at all. , he could be this years seth jones, a player who drops down a bit but is actually fantastic.

To trade into 4... its take ilses first, our 2nd, Norris and ...? Iles first and the four second round picks?

I really want one of the forwards, but if Dorion takes drysdale at 5 I wouldnt be too upset, if at all. , he could be this years seth jones, a player who drops down a bit but is actually fantastic.

To trade into 4... its take ilses first, our 2nd, Norris and ...? Iles first and the four second round picks?
- david22

I 100% agree on Drysdale. I just really like the idea of picking up a forward and a D to pad our prospects on both ends of the team.

I'd never make that move to trade up for Rossi. The Ilses 1st, our 2nd and something else is fine but not a bluechip prospect and absolutely not Norris.

From what I've heard Yzerman isn't actually that into Rossi but I guess time will tell.

I still think Ottawa should Pad both ends of the rink with those drafts.

#3 Byfield/Stutzle (Whichever isn't picked #2)
#5 Drysdale

That way you get a potential superstar on the front end and you solidify your D core on the back end for the future.

I would still wonder what it would take to trade for #4 so we could pick #3,#4 and #5 and also grab Rossi
- Maverick1818

if they take Drysdale, we have 3 potential top pairing RHD (Drysdale, JBD, Thomson), and pretty much zero potential top six RW....this team needs Raymond WAAAAAAAYYYYYYY more than it needs Drysdale. if you want to solidify the right side, take Baron or Guhle later in the 1st, or draft one of the 10 dmen slated to be available next year, who are all likely as good or better than Drysdale.

The sens need high skill forwards much much much more than they need D right now.

if they take Drysdale, we have 3 potential top pairing RHD (Drysdale, JBD, Thomson), and pretty much zero potential top six RW....this team needs Raymond WAAAAAAAYYYYYYY more than it needs Drysdale. if you want to solidify the right side, take Baron or Guhle later in the 1st, or draft one of the 10 dmen slated to be available next year, who are all likely as good or better than Drysdale.

The sens need high skill forwards much much much more than they need D right now.
- sensarmy_11

To be fair, Drysdale would Instantly become their best D prospect. His ceiling is much higher than JBD or Thompson.

For me its Rossi or Raymond. Then perfetti.

To be fair, Drysdale would Instantly become their best D prospect. His ceiling is much higher than JBD or Thompson.

For me its Rossi or Raymond. Then perfetti.
- david22

I wouldn't say his ceiling is "much higher".....I don't think it's so much higher that it's worth taking him at the expense of filling another, more significant, roster hole.

just my opinion

I wouldn't say his ceiling is "much higher".....I don't think it's so much higher that it's worth taking him at the expense of filling another, more significant, roster hole.

just my opinion
- sensarmy_11

Fair enough. I thought I read somewhere that Detroit likes perfetti, and may be inclined to take a center.
At that point it would be Rossi v raymond.

Can rossi play wing? They still have batherson, but as much as I like him as a prospect i think he is best suited as a second line player, especially if they had someone better (raymond?) Ahead of him.

if they take Drysdale, we have 3 potential top pairing RHD (Drysdale, JBD, Thomson), and pretty much zero potential top six RW....this team needs Raymond WAAAAAAAYYYYYYY more than it needs Drysdale. if you want to solidify the right side, take Baron or Guhle later in the 1st, or draft one of the 10 dmen slated to be available next year, who are all likely as good or better than Drysdale.
The sens need high skill forwards much much much more than they need D right now.
- sensarmy_11

I would generally agree with you... though in fairness, RHD is a high-demand position, so having extensive quality there is not an issue that would be hard to manage. The real question is whether they really need a top-5 talent there, given that: a) both Bernard-Docker and Thomson are projecting as top-4 quality D-men, b) RHD like Grans, Barron, and Cotton will be available with the later 1st/2nd round picks (note: Guhle is not a RHD), and c) next year's draft is by all accounts far more rich in D-men. The 3/5 picks this year just seem to have more impressive forward options available, and ideally I'd like to see one of Byfield/Rossi in that mix to further bolster the C position.