Theo Fox
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Agree but is JC the right guy for the job? - Scott1977
If development at the NHL level is a high priority, sure but think Colliton was more fit to be the head coach in Rockford where a lot of development should be taking place. |
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If development at the NHL level is a high priority, sure but think Colliton was more fit to be the head coach in Rockford where a lot of development should be taking place. - Theo Fox
Maybe its a 2 year extension to Coach at the Rock
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gmurban
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Agree but is JC the right guy for the job? - Scott1977
Perhaps the goal is to run off some high priced veterans by having them ask out, instead of the team taking the PR hit for breaking up the old core?
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Scott1977
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Perhaps the goal is to run off some high priced veterans by having them ask out, instead of the team taking the PR hit for breaking up the old core? - gmurban
Maybe but that is a reach imo. |
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jhawk59
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If you are disappointed that are first round pick is at #17 and it means tier one top prospects are gone, then would you surrender our #2 just to exchange a few spots up in round one?
Long term implication is that the #1 from moving up could become a top line player. Not so likely at #17 or second round.
Wonder if wiz would say no, keep both picks |
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Theo Fox
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Couturier wins the Selke by a landslide (117 1st place votes, 2nd place was Bergeron with 21).
I remember reading a draft profile of Connor Zary and his comparable was Couturier. Zary is in the 17th range. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Couturier wins the Selke by a landslide (117 1st place votes, 2nd place was Bergeron with 21).
I remember reading a draft profile of Connor Zary and his comparable was Couturier. Zary is in the 17th range. - Theo Fox
The ones I read said he models his game after Horvat. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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If you are disappointed that are first round pick is at #17 and it means tier one top prospects are gone, then would you surrender our #2 just to exchange a few spots up in round one?
Long term implication is that the #1 from moving up could become a top line player. Not so likely at #17 or second round.
Wonder if wiz would say no, keep both picks - jhawk59
Hawks aren't getting into tier one level. |
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StLBravesFan
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If development at the NHL level is a high priority, sure but think Colliton was more fit to be the head coach in Rockford where a lot of development should be taking place. - Theo Fox
Or is JC the A to B guy - the guy who helps the young players progress - isn’t working with development supposedly his strength) - but then they will need the B to C(up) guy?
Yeah, Rockford - but finances say many of the young prospects may be in the Show sooner than usual.
Is that one reason why they may be looking at a “bridge” deal for him, knowing (or sensing) that? |
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Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley! Joined: 08.06.2010
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If development at the NHL level is a high priority, sure but think Colliton was more fit to be the head coach in Rockford where a lot of development should be taking place. - Theo Fox
I’m missing the ‘development’ aspect of JC’s coaching. Some have progressed (Dach, Kubalik), some have regressed (DCat, Strome) some have gone sideways (Boqvist).
At the same time, the defense remains awful, the offense is middle of the pack, and they remain the 6th or 7th best team in the Central.
Exactly when will we be seeing this ‘progress’? |
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bhawks2241
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 09.17.2013
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My take is prior to this season (i.e. before Dach and Boqvist), the team had been in neutral since the 2017 playoffs.
Today and moving ahead, though, I would agree that they have more to look forward to compared to other teams like the Wings.
That's not to say there will be total resurrection to greatness in a few years but the Hawks are definitely in a better spot to grow and keep growing. - Theo Fox
Agreed! Well said. I’d add Kubalik too. Hawks have legit pieces that can develop. Top pairing D and top 6 centers are what the Wings haven’t been able to develop. Hawks are in solid shape to accomplish that. |
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Theo Fox
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The ones I read said he models his game after Horvat. - Elbows15
When you read a variety of draft profiles on the same prospect, sometimes there's consistency in comparables and sometimes they can be all over the map.
Either way with Zary, I'd be over the moon if he got close to or even matched the play of Couturier or Horvat.
Speaking of draft prospects, I believe it was you and maybe EbonyRaptor or others who are high on Marat Khusnutdinov. He's getting a lot of praise lately so his stock is rising. |
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Theo Fox
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Or is JC the A to B guy - the guy who helps the young players progress - isn’t working with development supposedly his strength) - but then they will need the B to C(up) guy?
Yeah, Rockford - but finances say many of the young prospects may be in the Show sooner than usual.
Is that one reason why they may be looking at a “bridge” deal for him, knowing (or sensing) that? - StLBravesFan
Not sure if that's the strategy with Colliton but what you described makes sense to me as a plausible perspective. |
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StLBravesFan
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Vegas really presses hard in 3rd periods. |
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StLBravesFan
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Vegas really presses hard in 3rd periods. - StLBravesFan
But Dallas gets the lead back.... |
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But Dallas gets the lead back.... - StLBravesFan
Walrus blew both goals. The 2nd the guy had time and space and that's on the D, but he shot it right at him and it went through. |
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Theo Fox
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I’m missing the ‘development’ aspect of JC’s coaching. Some have progressed (Dach, Kubalik), some have regressed (DCat, Strome) some have gone sideways (Boqvist).
At the same time, the defense remains awful, the offense is middle of the pack, and they remain the 6th or 7th best team in the Central.
Exactly when will we be seeing this ‘progress’? - scottak
While I do agree Colliton hasn't moved the needle significantly with the team, he does mesh well with the younger players and had a good track record with development in Rockford.
I'm still putting my thoughts together for the season review blog on coaches due out next Wednesday but some of it does focus on Colliton being a pretty decent developmental coach but so far not a really good tactical coach. |
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StLBravesFan
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Walrus blew both goals. The 2nd the guy had time and space and that's on the D, but he shot it right at him and it went through. - 6628
Dallas just DOMINATED for the...uhhh...38 seconds of overtime.... |
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Nice shot by Rad, talented but not the brightest hockey player |
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When you read a variety of draft profiles on the same prospect, sometimes there's consistency in comparables and sometimes they can be all over the map.
Either way with Zary, I'd be over the moon if he got close to or even matched the play of Couturier or Horvat.
Speaking of draft prospects, I believe it was you and maybe EbonyRaptor or others who are high on Marat Khusnutdinov. He's getting a lot of praise lately so his stock is rising. - Theo Fox
Yeah, I jumped on the Khusnutdinov bandwagon a couple weeks ago. A really dynamic player all over the ice with the lone negative of he's only 5'9" / 165. Watching tons of highlights and some game action shows he plays bigger than 5'9" - he is a feisty player that doesn't shy away from the physical part of the game - kind of reminds me of DCat in that regard except he skates better and doesn't have DCat's elite shot.
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While I do agree Colliton hasn't moved the needle significantly with the team, he does mesh well with the younger players and had a good track record with development in Rockford.
I'm still putting my thoughts together for the season review blog on coaches due out next Wednesday but some of it does focus on Colliton being a pretty decent developmental coach but so far not a really good tactical coach. - Theo Fox
Didn't the Hawks beat a more talented Oil team? Damn man its the lack of talent and experience on the ice |
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hawkitect
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Location: calgary, AB Joined: 02.03.2012
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Stars win. They're looking good.
Here's a thought, if the Knights do not win the cup this year:
Patrick Kane (25% salary retained) to VGK
Alex Tuch, Cody Glass (or Krebs if injuries are a concern) and a first round pick to CHI. |
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Stars win. They're looking good.
Here's a thought, if the Knights do not win the cup this year:
Patrick Kane (25% salary retained) to VGK
Alex Tuch, Cody Glass (or Krebs if injuries are a concern) and a first round pick to CHI. - hawkitect
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LAHawk
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Stars win. They're looking good.
Here's a thought, if the Knights do not win the cup this year:
Patrick Kane (25% salary retained) to VGK
Alex Tuch, Cody Glass (or Krebs if injuries are a concern) and a first round pick to CHI. - hawkitect
Does Vegas have a different salary cap? |
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hawkitect
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Does Vegas have a different salary cap? - LAHawk
Looks like they have about $5M in space after this season and most of their team signed.
Kane @ $7.5M
Tuch is $4.75 and Glass is entry. Tuch had an off year this year, but looks like his playoffs are looking better than the regular season. Had 52 points previous full season.
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