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pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Sep 8 @ 7:45 PM ET
Karine
Hains: Cap Crunch

Could the Habs use their cap space to target some restricted free agents this coming offseason?

- Karine Hains


He might as well piss off another owner and gm, lord knows how many he pissed off with that Carolina debacle..
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 8 @ 7:46 PM ET
your time and reputation might be my guess. Then again, it's in the cba.
- deadpoulet


I was also wondering if it could impact your reputation but apparently other GMs are totally fine with it. maybe they're all lying and hiding an unwritten rule, who knows...
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 8 @ 7:57 PM ET
As for Sergachev, we know that the Canadiens like him, they drafted him after all, but considering how important he has become for the Lightning, I very much doubt there will be anytime to make an offer sheet. I expect he might just be priority one for the Lightning’s GM once his team is out of the playoffs or raises the Cup.

the habs liked him but still traded him to another team... even if MB did send him an offer sheet wouldn't he just burst out of laughter? lol

- Pat1993


lol maybe, or he’d sign it and use it to force TB to give him the money he wants like Aho did but as I said in the blog, I really don’t see MB going down that road 2 years in a row...offer sheets are once in a blue moon type of things...
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 8 @ 7:59 PM ET
I was also wondering if it could impact your reputation but apparently other GMs are totally fine with it. maybe they're all lying and hiding an unwritten rule, who knows...
- Pat1993


GMs get mad when you make an offer that’s way above market price and send the market rocketing, Bergevin didn’t do that with Aho, he offered an amount that fit the market hence why it was matched and no one got annoyed (oh dear I said hence...Pie is gonna get mad again)
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Sep 8 @ 7:59 PM ET
There is much speculation that room will be made for Cirelli by pushing out Tyler Johnson, even though Tyler has an NTC. It seems he is seeing a lot of 3rd and even 4th line duty already, whereas on most teams he would be a 2nd line center. A team that is weak down the middle, like NY Rangers for instance, would be very interested in him. Of coarse the Rangers have cap problems too......So here is hoping where Stevie Y can do some magic and help his Red Wings strengthen their sagging middle! Maybe Tyler will waive his NTC for his old boss and immediately have a spot on the Wings second line.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 8 @ 8:04 PM ET
GMs get mad when you make an offer that’s way above market price and send the market rocketing, Bergevin didn’t do that with Aho, he offered an amount that fit the market hence why it was matched and no one got annoyed (oh dear I said hence...Pie is gonna get mad again)
- Karine Hains


makes sense. and if it's something that really bothered GMs that much they probably would put pressure to change the rules, or get rid of offer sheets altogether.


and if Pie gets mad just let him cool down on a window sill
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 8 @ 8:06 PM ET
There is much speculation that room will be made for Cirelli by pushing out Tyler Johnson, even though Tyler has an NTC. It seems he is seeing a lot of 3rd and even 4th line duty already, whereas on most teams he would be a 2nd line center. A team that is weak down the middle, like NY Rangers for instance, would be very interested in him. Of coarse the Rangers have cap problems too......So here is hoping where Stevie Y can do some magic and help his Red Wings strengthen their sagging middle! Maybe Tyler will waive his NTC for his old boss and immediately have a spot on the Wings second line.
- HenryHockey


I’ve had Johnson on my fantasy league in the past and his production really took a hit when the triplets line was dismantled... Kucherov and Palat kept going but Johnson has had a rough go of it... Might be how they try to make room, interesting idea.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 8 @ 8:07 PM ET
makes sense. and if it's something that really bothered GMs that much they probably would put pressure to change the rules, or get rid of offer sheets altogether.


and if Pie gets mad just let him cool down on a windowsill

- Pat1993

Or send jason biggs after him
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 8 @ 8:08 PM ET
I’ve had Johnson on my fantasy league in the past and his production really took a hit when the triplets line was dismantled... Kucherov and Palat kept going but Johnson has had a rough go of it... Might be how they try to make room, interesting idea.
- Karine Hains

Stamkos will be traded
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 8 @ 8:09 PM ET
Or send jason biggs after him
- mr.peanut



Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 8 @ 8:12 PM ET
Stamkos will be traded
- mr.peanut


With that heavy contract, a full no mouvement clause and that injury history? Somewhat doubtful lol
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Sep 8 @ 8:12 PM ET
makes sense. and if it's something that really bothered GMs that much they probably would put pressure to change the rules, or get rid of offer sheets altogether.


and if Pie gets mad just let him cool down on a window sill

- Pat1993


why is it so rare then? How do you explain that one? If it would be a good way to improve your team, I think we would see more of them.


I think you either have to offer not that much $$, then it's match, or you offer too much, you lose a lot of assesets (picks) that hurt your team and you end up with an overpaid player on your team. That would be my guess, the way the system works right now.
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 8 @ 8:12 PM ET
Or send jason biggs after him
- mr.peanut


LOL
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Sep 8 @ 8:13 PM ET
There is much speculation that room will be made for Cirelli by pushing out Tyler Johnson, even though Tyler has an NTC. It seems he is seeing a lot of 3rd and even 4th line duty already, whereas on most teams he would be a 2nd line center. A team that is weak down the middle, like NY Rangers for instance, would be very interested in him. Of coarse the Rangers have cap problems too......So here is hoping where Stevie Y can do some magic and help his Red Wings strengthen their sagging middle! Maybe Tyler will waive his NTC for his old boss and immediately have a spot on the Wings second line.
- HenryHockey

How does that help the Habs?
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 8 @ 8:18 PM ET
why is it so rare then? How do you explain that one? If it would be a good way to improve your team, I think we would see more of them.


I think you either have to offer not that much $$, then it's match, or you offer too much, you lose a lot of assesets (picks) that hurt your team and you end up with an overpaid player on your team. That would be my guess, the way the system works right now.

- deadpoulet


yeah looking at the history of offer sheets in the NHL you can see the current trend is that teams always match the offers, which wasn't necessarily the case in the past...

https://en.wikipedia.org/..._have_signed_offer_sheets

last "successful" offer sheet was Dustin Penner in 2007 lol
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Sep 8 @ 8:18 PM ET
How does that help the Habs?
- MisterBrown


We dont need another small forward on the Habs
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Sep 8 @ 8:22 PM ET
yeah looking at the history of offer sheets in the NHL you can see the current trend is that teams always match the offers, which wasn't necessarily the case in the past...

https://en.wikipedia.org/..._have_signed_offer_sheets

last "successful" offer sheet was Dustin Penner in 2007 lol

- Pat1993


Never have speech marks been more aptly used lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIIm7yBdUG4
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 8 @ 8:22 PM ET
With that heavy contract, a full no mouvement clause and that injury history? Somewhat doubtful lol
- Karine Hains

Book it
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 8 @ 8:24 PM ET
lol maybe, or he’d sign it and use it to force TB to give him the money he wants like Aho did but as I said in the blog, I really don’t see MB going down that road 2 years in a row...offer sheets are once in a blue moon type of things...
- Karine Hains


exactly, just to (frank) TB a little capwise, that'd be good
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 8 @ 8:28 PM ET
Never have speech marks been more aptly used lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIIm7yBdUG4

- Karine Hains



deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Sep 8 @ 8:29 PM ET
yeah looking at the history of offer sheets in the NHL you can see the current trend is that teams always match the offers, which wasn't necessarily the case in the past...

https://en.wikipedia.org/..._have_signed_offer_sheets

last "successful" offer sheet was Dustin Penner in 2007 lol

- Pat1993



Yeah, Penner is the one not matched I could remember.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Sep 8 @ 8:31 PM ET
Or send jason biggs after him
- mr.peanut

mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Sep 8 @ 8:33 PM ET
Yeah, Penner is the one not matched I could remember.
- deadpoulet

Because brian burke thought todd bertuzzi was worth almost $5 million
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Sep 8 @ 8:35 PM ET
Because brian burke thought todd bertuzzi was worth almost $5 million
- mr.peanut


hihihihi
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Sep 8 @ 8:35 PM ET
Because brian burke thought todd bertuzzi was worth almost $5 million
- mr.peanut


also hello
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