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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Sep 6 @ 2:19 PM ET
The Flyers always have trouble with teams that forecheck hard and clog up the neutral zone. The only way for the Flyers to get through the neutral zone was to lob the puck over the Islander's d-men. Our forwards didn't give much help to our d-men as we tried to exit our zone. too many one and done's or none and done's. Hopefully AV and Company addresses this issue for next season? The islanders had more energy and out skated the Flyers the entire series. The only Flyer that constantly hustled was Pitlick. That guy has some engine and always gives 110%, unlike JVR, who is still an extremely lazy player. It's great that Hart and other young players got a taste of playoff hockey.

In all reality, the Flyers won their games in the round robin and went 7 games with the Islanders, but they never really played great hockey since the reboot. Our big names didn't play big, our PP was non existent and we barely got any shots on goal. AV and staff made improvements this season, but they still have a lot of work ahead of them for next season. Fingers crossed for next season........

- Thors-Hammer


Just a few years ago it was all the d-corp fault... granted they had their share of leadfooted goons but the forward corp continues to be bbaby food quality durable.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 6 @ 2:20 PM ET
With you being the arbiter of what is valid and what isn't!

- MJL


No, in this case, it would be his own words.

What a moron you are, on merit, MJL. To have this level of dufusness publicly displayed for decades is something else.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Sep 6 @ 2:20 PM ET

I missed them having development camp this year. It does give a sneak peak to how the prospects are improving. It’s tough not knowing exactly how this next season will start and about the AHL.
Balboa
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2020

Sep 6 @ 2:21 PM ET
Couturier Sanheim and 1st gets it done ...
- login
If Philly was picking 1st overall maybe.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 6 @ 2:21 PM ET
Are you sure? I never thought Brind’amour or Bobrovsky were available but lo and behold if I ever criticize those moves the flyer-fan loyalty police will cite me for failing to recognize those guys asked to be traded... i mean Eichel has pretty much done that publicly as opposed to a private meeting that nobody hears about till after the god-awful trade.🤷‍♂️
- JoeRussomanno


You are correct: Eichel, Taylor Hall and Laine are all reportedly unhappy. That often leads to something.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 6 @ 2:21 PM ET
I don't know why you are fixated on rookie classification. It is not material to Lindblom's case. He played an intervening year.

The basic issue here is what the NHL counts as an accrued year. For example, you can become an UFA after 7 accrued years or age 27, whichever is earlier. An accrued year is any year where the guy is on the NHL roster for 40 games. He does not have to play.


- PT21


You're conflating things here in an effort to spin out of something that you know you were wrong about. Accrued seasons is about contract status and nothing more. The poster informed you what determines a player is a rookie in the league or is not.


Moving more to the point, I honestly don't know what your own is. I never said Lindblom is not going to be good or even not a star. I simply said the jury is still out.

- PT21


The only reason the jury is still out is because of the illness. Otherwise Lindblom has shown he is a legit NHL winger.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Sep 6 @ 2:22 PM ET
Are you sure? I never thought Brind’amour or Bobrovsky were available but lo and behold if I ever criticize those moves the flyer-fan loyalty police will cite me for failing to recognize those guys asked to be traded... i mean Eichel has pretty much done that publicly as opposed to a private meeting that nobody hears about till after the god-awful trade.🤷‍♂️
- JoeRussomanno


I just think if you're Fletcher you should think outside of the box.

Sure there will always be people who are unhappy on the teams they're on, it would be remiss to not try anything and everything.

Maybe the Sabres DIDNT think about trading him before someone calls with some great above-average, roster-filling players.

We CANT let G and Voraceks deals hinder us when we have great young talent. And can win NOW.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 6 @ 2:23 PM ET
The issue is not who is a rookie, for crying out loud. The issue is which year will the league consider Lindblom to be.

Now ignore his age (he is 24). Lets say he was 20.

Now suppose he plays every game the next 4 seasons. Does he complete 7 years after the next 4? Is he an UFA then or not?

- PT21


Spin, spin, spin. You were wrong. Time to man up.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Sep 6 @ 2:23 PM ET
If Philly was picking 1st overall maybe.
- Balboa


Then add Frost, or Konecny, or whoever.

I don't care.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 6 @ 2:24 PM ET
No, in this case, it would be his own words.

What a moron you are, on merit, MJL. To have this level of dufusness publicly displayed for decades is something else.

- PT21


This moron exposes you on a regular basis.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Sep 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
This moron exposes you on a regular basis.
- MJL


You still use a Vader avatar and call others morons.

Lmfao

Do you want to see Dune with me?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
What scares me is the same thing that sacred me before this season. Does the mandate from upper management still hold true? Look at where were at. The same place they were under Holmgren year after year with that approach. Not good enough. Despite the spending and putting the team up against the cap, they're still going to have to wait for the young players. I believe that Hextall signed JVR to try and appease management and hold them off. Right now it looks like a bad deal. They have more dead cap money because they had to have Braun. Hayes was a good deal and Niskanen a good trade. Lets stay away from the UFA market and let the team develop.
- MJL

Yeah, if anything I’d look closer at a trade because these UFA deals are always expensive and like you said we’ve already got enough cap on the books.

I don’t think Buffalo is going to move Eichel but Fletch does love those US boys and I imagine the same ownership that mandated playoffs probably isn’t very happy with how the vet forwards played in these playoffs. At least with Homer we were all pretty much aware a big move was coming once or twice a year lol. I have no clue what this front office is going to do. Fun times.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 6 @ 2:30 PM ET
You're conflating things here in an effort to spin out of something that you know you were wrong about. Accrued seasons is about contract status and nothing more. The poster informed you what determines a player is a rookie in the league or is not.



The only reason the jury is still out is because of the illness. Otherwise Lindblom has shown he is a legit NHL winger.

- MJL


No, the poster claimed Lindblom is a rookie, which he since admitted was not true.

The argument since moved on to whether he should be considered a 2nd year guy or a 3rd year guy.

I gave the correct way to figure this out, but asking how much the value of x needs to be, where x is the # of more seasons Lindblom needs to be on a NHL roster to achieve the status of a 7 year vet in the eyes of the NHL.

I understand this moving on was well beyond your intellect to fathom and that you are hopelessly confused and that you will carry on like a dog chasing its own tail.

Knock yourself out.
Balboa
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2020

Sep 6 @ 2:30 PM ET
You are correct: Eichel, Taylor Hall and Laine are all reportedly unhappy. That often leads to something.
- PT21


You forgot Flyers fans on the list above.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 6 @ 2:30 PM ET
You still use a Vader avatar and call others morons.

Lmfao

Do you want to see Dune with me?

- DrMidnite


Show me where I call someone a moron?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 6 @ 2:31 PM ET
This moron exposes you on a regular basis.
- MJL


I know. Just as he has exposed so many others over the years, thus garnering his well-deserved reputation.

Back to ignoring you.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 6 @ 2:32 PM ET
Hey congrats on your win. I don't have the heart to go over to your board and congratulate your fans but you guys deserve the win. You played clean hockey for the most part (got away with some interference but if they are not calling it and we cannot adjust, no point in changing it), and if there is any thing you need to be concerned about it is why this series went to 7, because it should have been maybe 4-1 on merit.
- PT21

Thanks and the best thing about this series was NBC using Konecny making fun of Leddy’s teeth in the Game 7 promo. I was crying when I saw that 😂😂
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 6 @ 2:33 PM ET
No, the poster claimed Lindblom is a rookie, which he since admitted was not true.

The argument since moved on to whether he should be considered a 2nd year guy or a 3rd year guy.

I gave the correct way to figure this out, but asking how much the value of x needs to be, where x is the # of more seasons Lindblom needs to be on a NHL roster to achieve the status of a 7 year vet in the eyes of the NHL.

I understand this moving on was well beyond your intellect to fathom and that you are hopelessly confused and that you will carry on like a dog chasing its own tail.

Knock yourself out.

- PT21


You didn't give the correct way to figure it out. The way you gave was not correct, it was incorrect. The NHL clearly defines a rookie as below. You'll notice it has nothing to do with Accrued seasons.

"To be considered a rookie, a player must not have played in more than 25 NHL games in any preceding seasons, nor in six or more NHL games in each of any two preceding seasons. Any player at least 26 years of age (by September 15th of that season) is not considered a rookie."
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Sep 6 @ 2:33 PM ET
Good afternoon Joe! Nice to see you posting.
Like I said the future is bright nonsense is just hot air. We live in the present.

- PLindbergh31

Didn’t you just make a point of how they haven’t won a cup in 45 years?
That’s funny.

Let’s talk about the present and near term future.

They made huge progress from ‘18-19 to this year.

Hart looks like the #1 we’ve been waiting for. Lindblom, no more needs to be said.
Myers and Sanheim hopefully learned what playoff hockey is about. There’s a couple of promising D guys in the pipeline and we could be set in goal and D for years.
The top forwards have peaked and the GM has some work to do there for sure.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Sep 6 @ 2:34 PM ET
Looking forward to more of login's moronic takes this offseason.


The bigger question is what alt is he....
Balboa
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2020

Sep 6 @ 2:36 PM ET
Then add Frost, or Konecny, or whoever.

I don't care.

- DrMidnite

Jack is probably a top 5 C in the NHL and if not top 5 top 7 for sure. He is 23 years old and not going anywhere unless someone steps up with an enormous offer and anything you have proposed is not even close.

DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Sep 6 @ 2:38 PM ET
Jack is probably a top 5 C in the NHL and if not top 5 top 7 for sure. He is 23 years old and not going anywhere unless someone steps up with an enormous offer and anything you have proposed is not even close.
- Balboa


Coutourier, Myers, Frost, conditional first.

Yes, this is fair. And if our coveted prospects are half as good as everyone thinks they are we should be fine.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 6 @ 2:39 PM ET
Coutourier, Myers, Frost, conditional first.

Yes, this is fair. And if our coveted prospects are half as good as everyone thinks they are we should be fine.

- DrMidnite


Couturier and Myers are untouchable.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Sep 6 @ 2:40 PM ET
Couturier and Myers are untouchable.
- MJL


That is a platitude.

Explain.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 6 @ 2:41 PM ET
That is a platitude.

Explain.

- DrMidnite



No explanation is needed.
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