Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Flyers ECSF Gameday: Game 7 vs. NYI (9/5/20)
Author Message
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 5 @ 10:52 PM ET
Once all the '74-'75 guys are gone they can bring the guys from this team back for special nights every five years.
- MrBuzzcut

I still think it’s hilarious when they bring Forsberg back.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 5 @ 10:53 PM ET


Question. So you’d trade provy for Marner or Tavares? I wouldn’t.

- Hextall271


Without taking salary cap considerations into play?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 5 @ 10:53 PM ET
But we did and they didn’t.
- ClaudeFather


They didn’t get to the first round haha
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 5 @ 10:53 PM ET
If those assets are so good why would they trade them? Also, 3 forwards make 33 mil of the cap? If they do try to trade these assets who takes on long term max cap hit? If you mean tradings firsts that even worse in the cap world. The fix for the leafs is complicated and I think we’re in a better spot.

Question. So you’d trade provy for Marner or Tavares? I wouldn’t.

- Hextall271

no but i'd package ghost + for marner
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Sep 5 @ 10:54 PM ET
show the proof
- 2Real



https://twitter.com/petes...tatus/1302429814498955269
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 5 @ 10:55 PM ET
Provy isn’t getting dealt lol.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 5 @ 10:55 PM ET
Without taking salary cap considerations into play?
- PT21


Yes. Imo the most valuable asset in the nhl is young elite 2 way dmen like provy. You can get forwards but it’s hard to get those quality d. We had to get them via ufa for eons. Now we’ve got 3 young good ones.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 5 @ 10:55 PM ET
Provy isn’t getting dealt lol.
- hereticpride


Oh I know. I’m trying to make a point that he’s more valuable than say Marner.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 5 @ 10:56 PM ET
no but i'd package ghost + for marner
- 2Real


For sure. I’d def consider that.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 5 @ 10:56 PM ET
AV
- Slimtj100

I’m disappointed with his early playoff adjustments....that never happened....
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 5 @ 10:59 PM ET
I’m about 500ft from the skate zone right now. Not on fire yet surprisingly
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 5 @ 10:59 PM ET
https://twitter.com/petestampone/status/1302429814498955269
- PLindbergh31

how do we know that's not an isles fan?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 5 @ 11:00 PM ET
I’m about 500ft from the skate zone right now. Not on fire yet surprisingly
- hereticpride

when you getting started?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Sep 5 @ 11:01 PM ET
Once all the '74-'75 guys are gone they can bring the guys from this team back for special nights every five years.
- MrBuzzcut



They'll trot out the 2010 team minus Wides and Richards
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Sep 5 @ 11:02 PM ET
https://twitter.com/petestampone/status/1302429814498955269
- PLindbergh31


What an idiot
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Sep 5 @ 11:02 PM ET
I’m disappointed with his early playoff adjustments....that never happened....
- SuperSchennBros

What would you have liked him to do? His top players flat out sucked since they got
to the bubble. Their leading goal scorer from the regular season scored ZERO goals in 17 games. Their captain scored one. Their Selke candidate came dramatically out of shape. Voracek did Voracek things. Their veteran, been their before defenseman, looked like he never played in the playoffs before.

AV is getting roasted for the challenges. Perhaps it was because he knew his team was not performing and was taking stabs at keeping the slim leads they had.

This team’s core and veteran leadership, outside of Kevin Hayes, spent vast majorities of this playoff disengaged. I love G and Coots, but this absolutely falls on them.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 5 @ 11:02 PM ET
Yes. Imo the most valuable asset in the nhl is young elite 2 way dmen like provy. You can get forwards but it’s hard to get those quality d. We had to get them via ufa for eons. Now we’ve got 3 young good ones.
- Hextall271


Well how rare are wingers who put up 90+ points before they are 22? Who average almost a p/g in the playoffs?

Marner could well have 5-6 seasons of 100+ points coming up. Marner ain't chopped liver.

Eat the salary to make it comparable to Provy and I would be seriously tempted assuming (and this is a big one) if Myers develops next year at the same pace he has this year.
ClutchFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Warminster, PA
Joined: 04.08.2008

Sep 5 @ 11:04 PM ET
How is Giroux not on that list?
- Sir_Robot_Farts


G has a no trade clause
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 5 @ 11:06 PM ET
no but i'd package ghost + for marner
- 2Real



You would make a guy who cannot displace Hagg the centerpiece of a trade for a young winger who is more than a p/g guy?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 5 @ 11:07 PM ET
For sure. I’d def consider that.
- Hextall271


Dude!!!
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 5 @ 11:17 PM ET
no but i'd package ghost + for marner
- 2Real

I’d also go down on Hayes.

I have along time to be banned.

Boom!
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Sep 5 @ 11:18 PM ET
They'll trot out the 2010 team minus Wides and Richards
- corduroy



The "almosts" teams from '87 and 2010.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 5 @ 11:20 PM ET
What would you have liked him to do? His top players flat out sucked since they got
to the bubble. Their leading goal scorer from the regular season scored ZERO goals in 17 games. Their captain scored one. Their Selke candidate came dramatically out of shape. Voracek did Voracek things. Their veteran, been their before defenseman, looked like he never played in the playoffs before.

AV is getting roasted for the challenges. Perhaps it was because he knew his team was not performing and was taking stabs at keeping the slim leads they had.

This team’s core and veteran leadership, outside of Kevin Hayes, spent vast majorities of this playoff disengaged. I love G and Coots, but this absolutely falls on them.

- Flyers1218

I would have not seen JvR used as a scapegoat. Giroux, Konecny and Couturier were very average the entire playoffs. There was zero errancy to get players in front of the net.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Sep 5 @ 11:30 PM ET
https://twitter.com/petes...tatus/1302429814498955269
- PLindbergh31


phlthy_rich
@PHLTHY_RICH
Replying to @petestampone and @barstoolsports
This guy also gave up his season tickets over the Kate Smith statue.
11:01 PM · Sep 5, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Sep 5 @ 11:31 PM ET
Hats off the the isles they played solid team d and didn’t break down inns zone coverages very much.
Sanheim, Myers need to get stronger. They got outmuscled on the boards far to many times this series.
The top six forwards didn’t do poop really. Hayes is about the only forward who had a ok series.
Giroux, Jake, coots, TK needed to do more.
I would put JVR in that list as well but he at least scored last game.
Fletch has some work to do. The flyers have a few contracts that are going to be tough to maneuver around.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30  Next