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burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 4 @ 1:00 PM ET
When the (frank) has TIOPS ever had good information? That website is a joke when it comes to relevant Penguins info.
- j.boyd919

That was my reaction. They are up there with budmoonshine
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 4 @ 1:05 PM ET
I cant believe Murray is on top (in 1st) of TSN's trade bait board. Its awesome. Its great promo.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 4 @ 1:11 PM ET
I don’t know who Chad DeDominics is but he’s saying there’s chatter between us and the Sabres for Murray and McCann.
- Victoro311


Murray and Bjugs for Reinhart.

Done.


burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 4 @ 1:12 PM ET
Murray and Bjugs for Reinhart.

Done.

- MattStrat

It was mentioned on here before about Murray and McCann for Reinhart, which would be a freaking steal. I don't know they trade him though, he is their #2 guy.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 4 @ 1:18 PM ET
Agree completely. Petts is solid but upgrade if you can. I dont think Krug is realistic but I wonder about Brodin.

Would Guerin be interested in Murray and Petts for Brodin and Staal? Pens getting the better players but both would be rentals and Guerin would get two good, cost controlled players.

- MacPatty


I'm taking a cost-controlled Pettersson over Brodin. I'm not sure that Brodin is THAT much of an upgrade over Pettersson at this point.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 4 @ 1:19 PM ET
Murray and Bjugs for Reinhart.

Done.

- MattStrat


Come on. You know JR better than that. It would clearly be for Risto, so him and JJ can create the worst 3rd pair in modern hockey history.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Sep 4 @ 1:26 PM ET
I don’t know who Chad DeDominics is but he’s saying there’s chatter between us and the Sabres for Murray and McCann.
- Victoro311


If it were the case I'd guess:

Murray, McCann, Ruh for MoJo, Hutton & Montour.
Or
Switch out the D with JJ and Risto.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 4 @ 1:29 PM ET
Coyotes interviewed Jason Karmanos for their GM position. Had no idea he was considered a future GM type...
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 4 @ 1:31 PM ET
Come on. You know JR better than that. It would clearly be for Risto, so him and JJ can create the worst 3rd pair in modern hockey history.
- Rinosaur



You're absolutely right. Fvck.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 4 @ 1:32 PM ET
It was mentioned on here before about Murray and McCann for Reinhart, which would be a freaking steal. I don't know they trade him though, he is their #2 guy.
- burgh4life87


Alright...Murray, McCann and Bjugs for Reinhart. Final offer.

Who's the Sabres GM now anyway?
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 4 @ 1:35 PM ET
Murray and Bjugs for Reinhart.

Done.

- MattStrat



Haha maybe swap out Bjugs for McCann or add Poulin. I dont see that one happening. Though he'd be pretty much ideal 3C. Probably better option than Domi to be honest. Probably will get $6.5M on his next deal.



I wonder what it would take to get Henrique out of Anaheim...
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Sep 4 @ 1:44 PM ET
I disagree that Murray is a reclamation project. He will be a great fit for a backpressure defence. The Pens just run and gun and play incredibly loose. Put him on the Isles and he will win the Vezina. Carolina would be his best fit of the teams that are interested.
- MacPatty

First half of the year the Pens were playing some if the best defense in the league and Murray was terrible. That's what was most disappointing to me, the team actually was playing great defense for once and Murray basically was giving back their hard work.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 4 @ 1:48 PM ET
Coyotes interviewed Jason Karmanos for their GM position. Had no idea he was considered a future GM type...
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I wonder if that’ll bring Bots back.

Anyways I think that’s consistent with them hiring Chayka. Karmanos is an analytics guy but I don’t think he’s full blown money ball like Chayka, and Chayka kind of face planted so they’re probably interested in someone milder.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 4 @ 1:51 PM ET
How much is Dadonov going to want? Be a nice back 9 of career gift for Geno. I know they have good top 6 in place already, plus already snagged a RW, but if Rust or Kapanen went to 3rd line then that 3rd line is looking much stronger. Keep McCann to be C for it.

Then all you have to do is ship out JJ and Bjugs to fit Dady in the lineup...

...

EDIT: plus I think Dadonov is a sure bet to produce whereas Kapanen isnt.

EDIT 2: I forgot about Horny at RW. He could be shipped out ...maybe...Im mixed on him. I like what he brings but not at that price tag anymore...
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 4 @ 1:57 PM ET
Murray and McCann to Calgary for Mikael Backlund

I could actually see this trade making sense..

Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 4 @ 2:12 PM ET
Murray and McCann to Calgary for Mikael Backlund

I could actually see this trade making sense..

- YouMeAndDupuis9


I would do that in a heartbeat. I don't think it makes sense for CGY considering he's their #2 guy. It would take a bigger haul to get Backlund and I'm not even sure they'd do it unless they knew they could replace him with a legit 2C.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
I would do that in a heartbeat. I don't think it makes sense for CGY considering he's their #2 guy. It would take a bigger haul to get Backlund and I'm not even sure they'd do it unless they knew they could replace him with a legit 2C.
- Rinosaur


Fair enough. I was think Monahan, Bennett, and McCann would be sufficient down the middle to finally fix their goaltending issue . Then again, I think more highly of McCann that most others.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 4 @ 2:25 PM ET
I wonder if that’ll bring Bots back.

Anyways I think that’s consistent with them hiring Chayka. Karmanos is an analytics guy but I don’t think he’s full blown money ball like Chayka, and Chayka kind of face planted so they’re probably interested in someone milder.

- Victoro311



I feel like Botts will be back either way. It's odd they never really replaced Geurin/Fitzgerald/Botterill. I wouldnt think its a budget issue.

I have no real opinion of Karmanos but he and Botterill could both carve out roles here.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 4 @ 2:52 PM ET
I feel like Botts will be back either way. It's odd they never really replaced Geurin/Fitzgerald/Botterill. I wouldnt think its a budget issue.

I have no real opinion of Karmanos but he and Botterill could both carve out roles here.

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Fitz was replaced by a Botts promotion. Botts was replaced by a Guerrin promotion. Guerrin was replaced by a Karmanos promotion. That’s why I didn’t think Botts would be back with Karmanos is the chief lieutenant role, Botts would have to come back in a lesser capacity after just being a GM.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Sep 4 @ 3:09 PM ET
Come on. You know JR better than that. It would clearly be for Risto, so him and JJ can create the worst 3rd pair in modern hockey history.
- Rinosaur



All joking aside I feel as though Risto as a 2nd pairing guy wouldn't be bad. I feel like defensemen go to Buffalo and don't play up to their normal level of play. I do like Risto's size and reach. He is probably someone Reirden would want on Pittsburgh. We do have past history with trying to sign Brandon Montour so I would assume he would probably be our top target with Buffalo and or I could see us going after a prospect like Mittelstadt. He is someone who hasn't played up to his potential, but is still very young and could still make an immediate impact.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Sep 4 @ 3:13 PM ET
Fair enough. I was think Monahan, Bennett, and McCann would be sufficient down the middle to finally fix their goaltending issue . Then again, I think more highly of McCann that most others.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

They don't seem to like Bennett at center at all though he wants to play there. Moat of the time he's a 3rd line wing so I don't see them making him a 2C.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 4 @ 3:17 PM ET
Fitz was replaced by a Botts promotion. Botts was replaced by a Guerrin promotion. Guerrin was replaced by a Karmanos promotion. That’s why I didn’t think Botts would be back with Karmanos is the chief lieutenant role, Botts would have to come back in a lesser capacity after just being a GM.
- Victoro311



What would have been nice is if Botterill knew he was getting canned and made one last favorable deal with GMJR knowing that he will have employment here haha.

The Kahun deal certainly wasn't favorable.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 4 @ 4:27 PM ET
Fair enough. I was think Monahan, Bennett, and McCann would be sufficient down the middle to finally fix their goaltending issue . Then again, I think more highly of McCann that most others.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Bennett sucks ass though.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 4 @ 4:30 PM ET
All joking aside I feel as though Risto as a 2nd pairing guy wouldn't be bad. I feel like defensemen go to Buffalo and don't play up to their normal level of play. I do like Risto's size and reach. He is probably someone Reirden would want on Pittsburgh. We do have past history with trying to sign Brandon Montour so I would assume he would probably be our top target with Buffalo and or I could see us going after a prospect like Mittelstadt. He is someone who hasn't played up to his potential, but is still very young and could still make an immediate impact.
- 123Kid


Ristolainin is 25. He’s not very young. Dude sucks. He’s basically the younger version of JJ.

Hard Pass.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 4 @ 4:31 PM ET
Ristolainin is 25. He’s not very young. Dude sucks. He’s basically the younger version of JJ.

Hard Pass.

- j.boyd919

Yea this Risto poop needs to stop.
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