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bruceflyers
Joined: 06.16.2012

Sep 3 @ 5:14 PM ET
I read it as a lighthearted attempt at levity by making a prediction that serves as a "reverse jinx." Nothing to get too hung-up about over. Things could be a lot worse.
- Bendecko

No it’s not nuclear detonation...that is true...just a really fcking stupid thing to leave on a fan message board.

No need to defend dumb.

Instead of admitting his stupidity...he doubled down on being a loser.

Don’t need his horse sht.

Already enough Flyer haters in the world...don’t need the weak
self-loathing...

OK that’s enough talking about that loser....

Time to focus...

Let’s roll...

LET’S GO FLYERS !! !!!
bruceflyers
Joined: 06.16.2012

Sep 3 @ 5:16 PM ET
Ruptured spleen, not appendectomy. He played two games with a goddamned ruptured spleen. But then, this is the guy who repeatedly had hit foot broken to try and reset the bones to be able to curing his skating wobble and prolong his career after he had won everything there was to win.

Do you remember Forsberg in those days? We did not see that Forsberg when he came to EC. The man would be possessed during the playoffs. The sheer maniacal ferocity combined with that sublime skill. We saw more of the latter.

I remember when Forsberg was looking around for a new team before he came to us, there was talk of him going to the Wings. Probably would not have gone there anyway, but apparently some of the Wings old guard did not want him to come even with his skill set. Too much bad blood from the battles of the past 10 years.

- PT21

Entirely missed my point.

The exact malady...not that important.
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Sep 3 @ 5:23 PM ET
For me, its a little different. I am super rational in most things. I also know that it makes no difference.

But in sports, and in close personal relationships, I choose to be emotional.

Its like: reason builds the stage, but if on that stage there is no play of love, then the stage is worthless.

- PT21


I hope I correctly understand your post.

My point is, in regards to superstitious behaviors in sports and in gambling for example, we will often throw logic and reason out of the equations in situations where the outcome is extremely important and emotional.

As an example, since casino's put up digital screens demonstrating past results ; the last 20 numbers or so and colors that hit on the roulette table, betting as increased significantly.

Why ?
Because of what is called ''gambler’s fallacy'' and the “the fallacy of the maturity of chances.” If Black has hit 7 times in a row, people will have the tendency to bet on Red which is totally irrelevant to past events.

The odds remain the same on the next spin no matter what happened on the previous spins.

Same goes with one wearing his favorite and ''Lucky'' Philly gear on must win games.

One will resort to illogical behavioral tendencies or decisions as a means to ''control'' or affect the outcome even if you're a rational individual and even if you're conscious that the outcome is totally independent of one's action (Illusion of control). Those behaviors are often linked to many forms of biases; causality bias, confirmation bias, emotional and cognitive bias, etc.

That being said, only Philly is immune to that. I'm wearing my''Win Jersey'' tonight and we going to game 7.

Let's go Flyers !!!!! CLAP CLAP... .....CLAP CLAP CLAP
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 3 @ 5:24 PM ET
Since we came back against Boston. Hasn’t like two other teams done this since?
- Peter Richards


I remember one. LA was down 0-3 against the Sharks. Don't remember which round, but I think it was the first. They beat the Sharks, and they went on to win the Cup.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 3 @ 5:47 PM ET
I got a big haul of Flyers cards in the mail today. It’s a good sign.


Side note: I don’t advise getting involved in card breaks. It’s addicting as hell and gets expensive as (frank).
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 3 @ 5:47 PM ET
I hope I correctly understand your post.

My point is, in regards to superstitious behaviors in sports and in gambling for example, we will often throw logic and reason out of the equations in situations where the outcome is extremely important and emotional.

As an example, since casino's put up digital screens demonstrating past results ; the last 20 numbers or so and colors that hit on the roulette table, betting as increased significantly.

Why ?
Because of what is called ''gambler’s fallacy'' and the “the fallacy of the maturity of chances.” If Black has hit 7 times in a row, people will have the tendency to bet on Red which is totally irrelevant to past events.

The odds remain the same on the next spin no matter what happened on the previous spins.

Same goes with one wearing his favorite and ''Lucky'' Philly gear on must win games.

One will resort to illogical behavioral tendencies or decisions as a means to ''control'' or affect the outcome even if you're a rational individual and even if you're conscious that the outcome is totally independent of one's action (Illusion of control). Those behaviors are often linked to many forms of biases; causality bias, confirmation bias, emotional and cognitive bias, etc.

That being said, only Philly is immune to that. I'm wearing my''Win Jersey'' tonight and we going to game 7.

Let's go Flyers !!!!! CLAP CLAP... .....CLAP CLAP CLAP

- Chris48


I do understand. You are essentially posting the Malcolm Gladwell/Cass Sunstein kind of heuristic and biases thesis.

Keep in mind though that people often learn from such biases and walk away from them, something those guys do not say (what happens to the guys who wear their favorite lucky jerseys or bet black and then end up on a long losing streak with it on, as is inevitable? Do they still cling to their beliefs? Why, since the premise is destroyed?)

I was just saying that my own superstitions are different. They are a rationally embraced exercise. Its not because I wore this jersey x times and Flyers won or anything like that, as you are saying.

I don't bet against the Flyers no matter how likely I think it is they will lose, because I choose to bar reason from that domain. I don't keep track and think: gee, look, I did not bet the last 10 times, so might as well, won't make any difference, so I will bet.

Hope this completely irrelevant philosophical exercise makes sense. There are obvious dangers to extrapolating it to more important domains where the lives of other people are involved.

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 3 @ 5:52 PM ET
I got a big haul of Flyers cards in the mail today. It’s a good sign.


Side note: I don’t advise getting involved in card breaks. It’s addicting as hell and gets expensive as (frank).

- hereticpride

No problem here with that - I have no idea what you're talking about lol
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 3 @ 5:55 PM ET
I do understand. You are essentially posting the Malcolm Gladwell/Cass Sunstein kind of heuristic and biases thesis.

Keep in mind though that people often learn from such biases and walk away from them, something those guys do not say (what happens to the guys who wear their favorite lucky jerseys or bet black and then end up on a long losing streak with it on, as is inevitable? Do they still cling to their beliefs? Why, since the premise is destroyed?)

I was just saying that my own superstitions are different. They are a rationally embraced exercise. Its not because I wore this jersey x times and Flyers won or anything like that, as you are saying.

I don't bet against the Flyers no matter how likely I think it is they will lose, because I choose to bar reason from that domain. I don't keep track and think: gee, look, I did not bet the last 10 times, so might as well, won't make any difference, so I will bet.

Hope this completely irrelevant philosophical exercise makes sense. There are obvious dangers to extrapolating it to more important domains where the lives of other people are involved.


- PT21


You know, all of this could've been avoided had you just been a true fan and predicted the Flyers to win tonight.

:-)
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 3 @ 6:02 PM ET
You know, all of this could've been avoided had you just been a true fan and predicted the Flyers to win tonight.

:-)

- Scoob


Yes, my bad. Along with it, I should also have believed that Tavares was still playing last year for the Isles, and the team that held Caps to 7 goals in 5 games is not a very good defense.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Sep 3 @ 6:09 PM ET
who is playing tonight, so curious
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 3 @ 6:10 PM ET
No problem here with that - I have no idea what you're talking about lol
- Scoob

Basically blindly buying a spot in a pack of sports cards being opened live online. It’s all the rage now and people are making a killing doing it. It’s also as dumb as it sounds and idk how I got sucked into it.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 3 @ 6:10 PM ET
You know, all of this could've been avoided had you just been a true fan and predicted the Flyers to win tonight.

:-)

- Scoob

As a fan I’m sure he wants them to win. Someone looking at it rationally and realistically. Both teams have an equal chance. Looking at the series so far the odds are in the isles favor. The games they won were in regulation. Both of ours were in o t.

I’m hoping hart just closes the door completely. Isles have scored 3 goals in each game. Right.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 3 @ 6:13 PM ET
My testicles are large
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 3 @ 6:14 PM ET
Basically blindly buying a spot in a pack of sports cards being opened live online. It’s all the rage now and people are making a killing doing it. It’s also as dumb as it sounds and idk how I got sucked into it.
- hereticpride


Never did a group break, but I'd also never spend $700 on a 5-card pack of The Cup.

I'm looking to unload. Have 2 Giroux The Cup rookies (2 and 3 color), his SPA FW /100, and basically every RC of his. Also a lot of Ghost and some other stuff (Richards The Cup and just a lot of random). Interest?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 3 @ 6:16 PM ET
My testicles are large
- jmatchett383


Prove it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 3 @ 6:16 PM ET
Prove it.
- PT21


Check your PMs.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 3 @ 6:17 PM ET
who is playing tonight, so curious
- arichardson22


Not the dressmaker.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 3 @ 6:18 PM ET
Not the dressmaker.
- PT21


So no talking mice?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 3 @ 6:18 PM ET
Check your PMs.
- jmatchett383


I did. No lumps. Hbu?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 3 @ 6:19 PM ET
Just saying, Voltron: Legendary Defender may be the best animated TV show ever.
Finished it a few weeks back and just want to rewatch the entire thing.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 3 @ 6:20 PM ET
So no talking mice?
- jmatchett383


Ehhh?

Couturier = french for dressmaker.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 3 @ 6:21 PM ET
Ehhh?

Couturier = french for dressmaker.

- PT21


I was talking about Cinderella.

The Disney movie, not the kick ass hair metal band.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 3 @ 6:22 PM ET
Basically blindly buying a spot in a pack of sports cards being opened live online. It’s all the rage now and people are making a killing doing it. It’s also as dumb as it sounds and idk how I got sucked into it.
- hereticpride

Actually it does sound like it would be exciting if you're into cards.

How vintage are the cards, or does it run the gamut from old to new?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 3 @ 6:24 PM ET
I was talking about Cinderella.

The Disney movie, not the kick ass hair metal band.

- jmatchett383

lol - I think I have never before heard them described that way
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 3 @ 6:26 PM ET
Actually it does sound like it would be exciting if you're into cards.

How vintage are the cards, or does it run the gamut from old to new?

- Scoob


Mostly it's new stuff.

Some packs of 5-8 cards cost upwards of $150, with one specific product being $700+ for 5 cards. So spending $50-$80 bucks to get every card of one team from the entire case (case is several boxes worth) is more affordable, but you could strike out completely.
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