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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 2 @ 9:56 PM ET
Did you not read the next sentence!!! He actually wrote Buffy would never do this.

But hey, go back to asking us for Ehlers in exchange for AHL D Ristolainen

- Ross77


Listen, I was summoned here by your blogger's terrible trade proposal. Now I'm responding to the continued terrible proposals from the commentariat.

I'm just along for the ride
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 2 @ 10:07 PM ET
Listen, I was summoned here by your blogger's terrible trade proposal. Now I'm responding to the continued terrible proposals from the commentariat.

I'm just along for the ride

- jcragcrumple


Side question, why doesn’t Reinhardt play center anymore? Was it a fail at the NHL level? Does he get tried there still sometimes but doesn’t look good? I remember him as a center in world juniors and being a decent one.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Sep 2 @ 10:11 PM ET
There are no untouchables on a team that can barely make the playoffs
- BWJumper


Trading your best forward at what will almost certainly be a loss is not the way to remedy that
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 2 @ 10:13 PM ET
Side question, why doesn’t Reinhardt play center anymore? Was it a fail at the NHL level? Does he get tried there still sometimes but doesn’t look good? I remember him as a center in world juniors and being a decent one.
- Ross77


It's a constant female dogfest on sabresbuzz about that. The long and the short is this:

The year they drafted eichel, they also traded for ROR. Unfortunately the best wingers at the time were Kane, Gionta, Foligno and... Benoit Pouliot. So either Reinhart would have been 3C or he would have been a winger, which they needed.

They tried reinhart at center for short stretches here and there during injuries. Housley tried him with CJ Smith and Pouliot I think.

Some also say he was never fast enough to be a center.

It just never materialized. Now he's a winger

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 2 @ 10:44 PM ET
There are no untouchables on a team that can barely make the playoffs
- BWJumper


That's great news to hear! Glad you brought it to our attention.

So now by that theory we know that Auston Matthews, Mathew Tkachuk, Jack Eichel, Mitch Marner, Morgan Rielly, Connor McDavid, Leon Draisaitl, etc are available.

Let's get one or two of them!
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Sep 2 @ 11:07 PM ET
Eichel plays where Laine does on the PP, so there is also no fit there. Im not taking Eichel off that spot, and Laine makes his living there.


Maybe Laine could be on PP#2 ?
Napolean-Mennonite
Location: MB
Joined: 01.30.2020

Sep 2 @ 11:08 PM ET
Ferguson drafted Temmu, Paddock traded him
- Ross77


I think you're half right. Mike Smith was the GM for Winnipeg that drafted Teemu.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Sep 2 @ 11:27 PM ET
That's great news to hear! Glad you brought it to our attention.

So now by that theory we know that Auston Matthews, Mathew Tkachuk, Jack Eichel, Mitch Marner, Morgan Rielly, Connor McDavid, Leon Draisaitl, etc are available.

Let's get one or two of them!

- grahamzky


I thought the goal was to win the cup not have the best players. Any smart GM should listen to offers for any player, especially on teams that under perform.

Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Sep 2 @ 11:45 PM ET
Ehlers for Ghostisbehere and a 2nd. Keep Laine. Cap works, Ghost is great offensively with the correct coaching scheme, he’s also a defenseman, and a 2nd rounder is still a great spot to pick up a need wherever you choose

You have experience with Buff. No, Ghost does not have Buff’s size or edge, but I think the Peg just might know how to employ his skills more than most franchises.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Sep 2 @ 11:46 PM ET
Just sign Laine long term, don't trade him, trading him would be dumb, he's a star in a city that stars don't want to come to, if they trade him they likely lose the trade, it won't be worth it, same goes for Ehlers.
When you get good players, you should keep them.

Also this idea that the Jets can fix holes by creating others is just shortsighted and stupid, so we're going to trade two top 6 wingers for a dman and a 2C, cool so who's that 2C going to have for wingers then? If you're going to tell me Roslo, Harkins, Perreault or Appleton well thanks for the laugh!

Every offseason I just hope Chevy doesn't do anything stupid and this one isn't any different.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Sep 2 @ 11:47 PM ET
Ehlers for Ghostisbehere and a 2nd. Keep Laine. Cap works, Ghost is great offensively with the correct coaching scheme, he’s also a defenseman, and a 2nd rounder is still a great spot to pick up a need wherever you choose
- Hesh_


Hey! Ho! How bout no.
Ghost is worth very little now thanks to his usage, but even then I’m not doing it
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Sep 2 @ 11:48 PM ET
Ehlers for Ghostisbehere and a 2nd. Keep Laine. Cap works, Ghost is great offensively with the correct coaching scheme, he’s also a defenseman, and a 2nd rounder is still a great spot to pick up a need wherever you choose

You have experience with Buff. No, Ghost does not have Buff’s size or edge, but I think the Peg just might know how to employ his skills more than most franchises.

- Hesh_


No thanks, not even close.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Sep 2 @ 11:49 PM ET
Trading your best forward at what will almost certainly be a loss is not the way to remedy that
- Rexypoo


How many more years do you think Maurice is the coach? I ask that because the Jets ran one of the worst offences in the NHL with Ehlers last year, trading him for a"loss" won't make much difference to the Jets if Maurice is still around for another few years.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Sep 2 @ 11:50 PM ET
Hey! Ho! How bout no.
Ghost is worth very little now thanks to his usage, but even then I’m not doing it

- Rexypoo


I'd send Philly a 3rd for Gostisbehere, might throw in another late round pick, that's about it.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Sep 2 @ 11:54 PM ET
How many more years do you think Maurice is the coach? I ask that because the Jets ran one of the worst offences in the NHL with Ehlers last year, trading him for a"loss" won't make much difference to the Jets if Maurice is still around for another few years.
- BWJumper


Don't see Maurice going anywhere unfortunately, think the ownership loves him.

Was Ehlers part of the problem with the offense?
His even strength point totals were amongst some of the best players in the league, the Jets offense was carried by their top 5 forwards, I'm amazed at how little mention it gets in Jets circles as to how useless their bottom 6 is.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Sep 3 @ 12:04 AM ET
Don't see Maurice going anywhere unfortunately, think the ownership loves him.

Was Ehlers part of the problem with the offense?
His even strength point totals were amongst some of the best players in the league, the Jets offense was carried by their top 5 forwards, I'm amazed at how little mention it gets in Jets circles as to how useless their bottom 6 is.

- JetFuel


No Ehlers wasn't part of the problem. My point to Rexypoo, was that the Jets were running a Detroit bad offence, with Ehlers, I fail to see how "losing" an Ehlers trade would make their offence that much worse as long as Maurice is coach.
Udogs
Joined: 09.19.2019

Sep 3 @ 5:26 AM ET
trade Laine to Florida, straight up for Ekblad.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Sep 3 @ 8:10 AM ET
I thought the goal was to win the cup not have the best players. Any smart GM should listen to offers for any player, especially on teams that under perform.
- BWJumper


Yes, of course, you're right. Absolutely!

Perhaps I should have used the term "shocking" instead of "untouchable" if certain players were moved, even on teams who missed/narrowly missed the playoffs.

I would be shocked, because of their skill/age/contract/status - whatever - were moved by the Jets - Connor, Scheifele, Wheeler, Ehlers, Hellebuyck and Morrissey. The rest?
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 3 @ 8:22 AM ET
I think you're half right. Mike Smith was the GM for Winnipeg that drafted Teemu.
- Napolean-Mennonite


Fergusson was still GM when he was drafted, it was Fergy's last draft
G - Man
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.13.2020

Sep 3 @ 8:31 AM ET
If Buffalo were to trade with the Jets I would be more inclined to trade Montour and Asplund for Copp.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 3 @ 8:32 AM ET
Ehlers for Ghostisbehere and a 2nd. Keep Laine. Cap works, Ghost is great offensively with the correct coaching scheme, he’s also a defenseman, and a 2nd rounder is still a great spot to pick up a need wherever you choose

You have experience with Buff. No, Ghost does not have Buff’s size or edge, but I think the Peg just might know how to employ his skills more than most franchises.

- Hesh_


how about we do Roslovic for Myers and call it a day, this is fair
G - Man
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.13.2020

Sep 3 @ 8:34 AM ET
trade Laine to Florida, straight up for Ekblad.
- Udogs



If you are looking for a big-time D that you could trade Laine, how about Eckman-Larsson ?
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 3 @ 8:39 AM ET
Don't see Maurice going anywhere unfortunately, think the ownership loves him.

Was Ehlers part of the problem with the offense?
His even strength point totals were amongst some of the best players in the league, the Jets offense was carried by their top 5 forwards, I'm amazed at how little mention it gets in Jets circles as to how useless their bottom 6 is.

- JetFuel


our top line put up points, yes, but got out scored by the other teams top line almost every game. the reason so many want more scoring out of our bottom 6 is because if Maurice refuses to break up our top line that's getting killed we need our bottom 6 to make up that difference.

how about we just mix the lines up better to create lines that can both produce offence while playing better defense.

id rather win more games 3-2, then lose more 6-5 but have more guys in the scoring leaders

again, change the dam coach

Hell_Bent
New York Islanders
Location: Hell's Kitchen, NY
Joined: 05.06.2019

Sep 3 @ 9:23 AM ET
Would a package of Mayfield, Cizikas, Bellows for Connor??
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 3 @ 9:51 AM ET
Would a package of Mayfield, Cizikas, Bellows for Connor??
- Hell_Bent

no,
but id listen to Pulock and Bellows
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