GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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I dislike the marner deal.
9.5 -.7 was what I was hoping he'd max out at. - Fakepartofme
Yeah, $9.5M should've been the absolute limit to his deal. And even then it's high in relation to his comparables. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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I will cut off my left but if Dubas doesn't ass a significant RH D. - RogerRoeper
You got booty on the mind? |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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That’s what my wife has been saying too.....
We have 3 kids - bryant
4 will be crazy, get YOUR D fixed pronto. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Yeah, $9.5M should've been the absolute limit to his deal. And even then it's high in relation to his comparables. - GreatGigInTheSky
His comparable that season was Matthews.
They gave him 11,6M.
Marner just had a 90 points season, more points than Matthews.
He wasn't gonna accept 9.5 .
The timing of the whole ordeal was pretty horrible for the Leafs.
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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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You got booty on the mind? - GreatGigInTheSky
getting worse and worse... |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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both johnsson and kerfoot had a decline in ppg last year. not off to a great start there.
muzzin's deal is market.
kapanen had a good contract. - Tumbleweed
Points only matter when we aren't talking about Willy |
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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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Points only matter when we aren't talking about Willy - Santo_44
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Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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His comparable that season was Matthews.
They gave him 11,6M.
Marner just had a 90 points season, more points than Matthews.
He wasn't gonna accept 9.5 .
The timing of the whole ordeal was pretty horrible for the Leafs. - Scabeh
Except there is a premium paid to centers and there is also a premium paid to goal scorers.
Rantanen was the closest comparable - and his contract is what most here think Marner should have been at.
But ya - the timing and situation was atrocious for the Leafs. Dubas didn't want another Nylander holdout.
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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His comparable that season was Matthews.
They gave him 11,6M.
Marner just had a 90 points season, more points than Matthews.
He wasn't gonna accept 9.5 .
The timing of the whole ordeal was pretty horrible for the Leafs. - Scabeh
He really isn't, at all, though. Matthews >> Marner, centres > wingers, and goal scorers > not goal scorers.
Matthews, if he was healthy in seasons 2 and 3, would be averaging 40 goals a season. Marner's boost in points came with Snakevares.
Marner's comparables, Rantanen and Aho, got what they should've. Marner is the exception.
Completely agree that the timing was awful, though. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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getting worse and worse... - 21peter
Pretty impressive, really. That's not an easy thing to do. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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He really isn't, at all, though. Matthews >> Marner, centres > wingers, and goal scorers > not goal scorers.
Matthews, if he was healthy in seasons 2 and 3, would be averaging 40 goals a season. Marner's boost in points came with Snakevares.
Marner's comparables, Rantanen and Aho, got what they should've. Marner is the exception.
Completely agree that the timing was awful, though. - GreatGigInTheSky
Ferris and Marner drove an unfair bargain.
Dubas chose to go 6 years though and he didnt have to...We'll see if that was the right move. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Except there is a premium paid to centers and there is also a premium paid to goal scorers.
Rantanen was the closest comparable - and his contract is what most here think Marner should have been at.
But ya - the timing and situation was atrocious for the Leafs. Dubas didn't want another Nylander holdout. - Leafs43
Bastard. Said it all before me.
I'll just add that Marner's agent played dirty pool the entire negotiation. Going through the media the entire way. Much worse than the Nylander situation. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Marner was over paid by 3 mill JMO... By 6 mill in the playoffs, but I understand they don't get paid for playoffs. I think he owes the Leafs money back. - bixll
90pt players
9plus million |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Ferris and Marner drove an unfair bargain.
Dubas chose to go 6 years though and he didnt have to...We'll see if that was the right move. - Santo_44
(frank)ing two in a row beating me to the punch.
Yup. |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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90pt players
9plus million - Fakepartofme
Play like it in the playoffs. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Play like it in the playoffs. - bixll
i get it.
But outside of AM and kerfoot, no one on the team had a good playoffs. |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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- 21peter
Do men worry what their hair even looks like in the playoffs.. |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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i get it.
But outside of AM and kerfoot, no one on the team had a good playoffs. - Fakepartofme
Agreed, but when you hamstring a team with your salary demands, you have to live up to it... He hurt the team. |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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I don't think Dubas goes into next season with either the same.
goaltending get stalked about a lot because its a very easy move to make this offseason. Half the league is available and Freddy's 1M contract brings back more value to the leafs than he is worth to them.
It is an easy move where the Leafs end up with more value. I keep talking about Trochek because I think there is something there.
The D is harder. Parayko. EDM's top 4 D...After that there are some risks...Lots of demand and not much supply. - Santo_44
It makes no sense to move Freddie just cause. He didn’t lose us that series. He didn’t win us any games and he was slightly, only slightly outplayed. I doubt he’s being shopped but I do believe the way bit was put, that Dubas is listening.
If he thinks he can shed some money and bring in somebody better, then go for it, otherwise fix the real problems. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Agreed, but when you hamstring a team with your salary demands, you have to live up to it... He hurt the team. - bixll
hes also young.
Just came off a season with his first big contract
Was off all year.
He didn't lose any games for leafs.
Lets see what next year brings |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Bastard. Said it all before me.
I'll just add that Marner's agent played dirty pool the entire negotiation. Going through the media the entire way. Much worse than the Nylander situation. - GreatGigInTheSky
I hate it when they hire mean agents. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Bastard. Said it all before me.
I'll just add that Marner's agent played dirty pool the entire negotiation. Going through the media the entire way. Much worse than the Nylander situation. - GreatGigInTheSky
except marner didnt sit out.
So not worse than the Nylander situation |
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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I hate it when they hire mean agents. - Canada Cup
Backstrom has a pretty good agent, Leafers should look into him. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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I hate it when they hire mean agents. - Canada Cup
It's bad business. Keep doing it (he's done it more than once) and eventually teams are gonna completely avoid it all together. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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It makes no sense to move Freddie just cause. He didn’t lose us that series. He didn’t win us any games and he was slightly, only slightly outplayed. I doubt he’s being shopped but I do believe the way bit was put, that Dubas is listening.
If he thinks he can shed some money and bring in somebody better, then go for it, otherwise fix the real problems. - Canada Cup
Reports are management is indeed frustrated at Andersen for constantly contributing to losses in important games.
They won't make a move for the sake of it.
But Freddy's contract is worth gold right now. both sides are ready to move on according to reports so the smart move would be to get a new goalie and deal Andersens valuable contract.
Chances are they have to find a new goalie next season anyways...Might as well find one now when there area a million available and you have the luxury of having his 1m deal being much more valuable to other teams than your own. |
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