We would have been selecting at the highest 24 th . What if he turns out like Shinkaruk . You can play the what if game on both sides of the coin.
- VANTEL

there are many sides of the coin. without jtm, they definitely would not be drafting at 24.

twas i 🙋‍♂️

i think theyll regress and emerge as a true contender when the rest of the roster and depth fills out. beagle sutter loui rousell all gone and replaced with whatever develops next. like lind gaudette and whatever other prospect benefits from another year
- johnnykarate

Regressing is a possibility .

I think we are like the Hurricanes. We will continue to grow but there will be bumps.

We would have been selecting at the highest 24 th . What if he turns out like Shinkaruk . You can play the what if game on both sides of the coin.
- VANTEL

Or McCann, who is a solid 3rd liner, but not a top 6 guy. I doubt anyone cares if we lose another McCann.

Regressing is a possibility .

I think we are like the Hurricanes. We will continue to grow but there will be bumps.
- VANTEL

I think next season specifically will be the year with the greatest challenge. The following year the high dollar, low productivity players contracts begin to expire.

there are many sides of the coin. without jtm, they definitely would not be drafting at 24.
- RealityChecker

I don't know about you, but this experience the young guys are getting with winning, so early in their careers, is worth WAY more than what we paid. JTM has played like a guy worth 2 1sts and a solid prospect.

i agree. it's how jb rounds out the roster that will make all the difference.

he's brought in a very good and exciting core. the next step is to surround them with the depth to go deep into the playoffs for the next several years.
- RealityChecker

the past 2 seasons have been extremely exciting and the future is bright. i do think they are currently 1 injury away from being depleted.. which at this stage isnt a big deal. i have faith in the upcoming prospects and furthr development of the young players will be able to adequately fill in when needed. that depth is key

there are many sides of the coin. without jtm, they definitely would not be drafting at 24.
- RealityChecker

The year before we finished 9 th and the projection pretty well from the end of that season even before the arrival of JTM was that they would be a bubble team so okay lets say drafting 14 th.


If they didn't trade for JTM they would have found someone else as an upgrade . That is what teams do in the offseason same as we will improve again this offseason

Regressing is a possibility .

I think we are like the Hurricanes. We will continue to grow but there will be bumps.
- VANTEL

exactly i dont think itll be a big regress. i just wouldnt be surprised if they missed the playoffs next year and win the division the year after. they are on the cusp imo

I think next season specifically will be the year with the greatest challenge. The following year the high dollar, low productivity players contracts begin to expire.
- 1970vintage

I think we will find a way to dump a contract or two to Seattle in exchange for leaving someone good, but replaceable, exposed. Like Markstrom for example. He could very well be Seattles Fleury, only younger.

Or McCann, who is a solid 3rd liner, but not a top 6 guy. I doubt anyone cares if we lose another McCann.
- Retinalz

Yup I think we have already a great young team so you can use assets and prospects as currency

exactly i dont think itll be a big regress. i just wouldnt be surprised if they missed the playoffs next year and win the division the year after. they are on the cusp imo
- johnnykarate

I think if we made a big trade for a Dumba, or Ekblad type RHD to create a real top pairing with Hughes, we will be a cup contender. Hard to say what will be out there, but we currently have the ability to spend assets to improve ourselves, and if those assets are between 23-26 and still have 5+ years of good play, we will replenish before we become the "end of Sedin era" Canucks.

I think we will find a way to dump a contract or two to Seattle in exchange for leaving someone good, but replaceable, exposed. Like Markstrom for example. He could very well be Seattles Fleury, only younger.
- Retinalz

But that’s not this season (2020/21) that’s the following year. This offseason the only guys “coming off the books” are guys they want back.

Someone who always cheers for their team to win. Who believes every player, coach, manager is doing great. Who turns on others who are critical of anything. True fans are like authorities in Xinjiang.
- 1970vintage

You are the epitome of a little knowledge is dangerous.

A fan is short for fanatic whether they win or lose not some smug smart ass who speaks to shape their narrative as it suits them. Obtuse you are.

Someone who always cheers for their team to win. Who believes every player, coach, manager is doing great. Who turns on others who are critical of anything. True fans are like authorities in Xinjiang.
- 1970vintage

You are the epitome of a little knowledge is dangerous.

A fan is short for fanatic whether they win or lose not some smug smart ass who speaks to shape their narrative as it suits them. Obtuse you are.
- Nighthawk

GFC

The year before we finished 9 th and the projection pretty well from the end of that season even before the arrival of JTM was that they would be a bubble team so okay lets say drafting 14 th.


If they didn't trade for JTM they would have found someone else as an upgrade . That is what teams do in the offseason same as we will improve again this offseason
- VANTEL

this is where we begin to diverge.

i think that a bottom feeding team who gets to draft high should and will improve after bottoming out. there young players (from high draft picks mostly) should help the team improve year over year.

however, there comes a point where all the other factors start becoming more crucial. i believe it's the point where a young team goes from "could be good" to a playoff team and then to contender. they are at the "playoff team" level and i'm not going to say that these playoffs put them on contender level even though they are final 8 (or final 4 etc.)

anyway, these playoffs are fun to watch and we'll see what jb does in the offseason.

had they lost last night, i would feel the exact same way. because they won doesn't change my view (in either a negative or positive way.) forest for the trees.

I think next season specifically will be the year with the greatest challenge. The following year the high dollar, low productivity players contracts begin to expire.
- 1970vintage

As you know I don't worry about those things.

I guess the big difference with me and others is they don't like certain players and I do.

Everyone is on board that Loui and Sven are mistakes but when it comes to Sutter or Beagle I like what they bring to the team. I know they are being pushed out the door but I can wait one more year.

It is a difference of opinion and that is fine. Sutter is usually on IR in regular season and it gives young guys a chance to play. When he is needed he magically comes off IR and fills the spot. I have liked his playoffs.

You are the epitome of a little knowledge is dangerous.

A fan is short for fanatic whether they win or lose not some smug smart ass who speaks to shape their narrative as it suits them. Obtuse you are.
- Nighthawk

be honest, you still ask for autographs don't you?

But that’s not this season (2020/21) that’s the following year. This offseason the only guys “coming off the books” are guys they want back.
- 1970vintage

I think Roussell is an asset, you can probably get a 3rd or 4th for him. I think Sven will cost a 3rd to dump. over 6m right there and now you can bring back Tanev/TT/Marky. Tanev can be expendable if they make a big deal in order to get a younger, better, RHD to play with Hughes.

this is where we begin to diverge.

i think that a bottom feeding team who gets to draft high should and will improve after bottoming out. there young players (from high draft picks mostly) should help the team improve year over year.

however, there comes a point where all the other factors start becoming more crucial. i believe it's the point where a young team goes from "could be good" to a playoff team and then to contender. they are at the "playoff team" level and i'm not going to say that these playoffs put them on contender level even though they are final 8 (or final 4 etc.)

anyway, these playoffs are fun to watch and we'll see what jb does in the offseason.

had they lost last night, i would feel the exact same way. because they won doesn't change my view (in either a negative or positive way.) forest for the trees.
- RealityChecker

I know almost all fans won't judge the success of the year on tonight. It has been and is a hell of a ride. I know you are enjoying it and you know I am.

GFC
- 1970vintage

green must not be on the bandwagon. hes been critical of games the canucks have played 🤦‍♂️

exactly i dont think itll be a big regress. i just wouldnt be surprised if they missed the playoffs next year and win the division the year after. they are on the cusp imo
- johnnykarate

I think they finish Top 10

this is where we begin to diverge.

i think that a bottom feeding team who gets to draft high should and will improve after bottoming out. there young players (from high draft picks mostly) should help the team improve year over year.

however, there comes a point where all the other factors start becoming more crucial. i believe it's the point where a young team goes from "could be good" to a playoff team and then to contender. they are at the "playoff team" level and i'm not going to say that these playoffs put them on contender level even though they are final 8 (or final 4 etc.)

anyway, these playoffs are fun to watch and we'll see what jb does in the offseason.

had they lost last night, i would feel the exact same way. because they won doesn't change my view (in either a negative or positive way.) forest for the trees.
- RealityChecker

I think EDM is the prime example of this. They got Hall and RNH, then they decided to continue sitting back and draft high, rather than spend assets to insulate them and try to compete. Now they have McDavid and Draisatl, and are doing the same thing. The only difference is that McDavid is just that good, and Draisatl had Hall and RNH to insulate him enough to develop into the beast he is.

1. they live in vegas
2. they've never had a bad/losing team

the douche level must be out of this world.
- RealityChecker

I think Roussell is an asset, you can probably get a 3rd or 4th for him. I think Sven will cost a 3rd to dump. over 6m right there and now you can bring back Tanev/TT/Marky. Tanev can be expendable if they make a big deal in order to get a younger, better, RHD to play with Hughes.
- Retinalz

Yeah maybe. I don’t think anyone is trading for Bear, Lui, Sutter, Roussel or Beagle. I think they just need to ride it out, but we shall see.