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jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Sep 2 @ 3:37 PM ET
exactly, I really don't see what's funny

MB giving him 2.5M oer, THAT would be funny

- fidopro


It's funny because Mete is much better than a 7th D, ours D depth is outrageous
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Sep 2 @ 3:37 PM ET
At this point Fleury might be ahead of Juulsen. We'll see at camp I guess.
- BashCH


I think so too but you're right, that's what camp is for...
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Sep 2 @ 3:39 PM ET
I think so too but you're right, that's what camp is for...
- obie


No one thought Fleury would make the team before camp last year.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 2 @ 3:43 PM ET
6th and 7th d are already signed. No need to sign any depth forwards either with the young guys joining the team.

So... 15M for Domi... who's likely getting traded.
Cap space baby woo!

- Scabeh


you only have 17 contracts signed for next year (I'm not including all entry level deals), so 6 more need to be signed with 14 million in space. by no means is this a bad situation!! but 14 million for just Domi is not remotely true. if you are looking at all rookies ( entry level deals ) outside Domi for 5/6 of those spots, that's fine but that will still eat up roughly 4 million of that balance.

so realistically you have 10 million for Domi and any other moves you wish to make all year. again, not bad at all but not exactly what you said.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 2 @ 3:50 PM ET
Fleury?

And I'm pretty sure Bergy is adding a D

- obie


Fleury could take Juulsen's spot but since he can go back to laval without going through Waivers (unlike Juulsen) I tend to think Noah will have the best chance to stick around if he looks good enough.

Before his injury, he looked like a NHL player to me.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 2 @ 3:51 PM ET
Fleury could take Juulsen's spot but since he can go back to laval without going through Waivers (unlike Juulsen) I tend to think Noah will have the best chance to stick around if he looks good enough.

Before his injury, he looked like a NHL player to me.

- Scabeh



he sure did.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Sep 2 @ 3:51 PM ET
you only have 17 contracts signed for next year (I'm not including all entry level deals), so 6 more need to be signed with 14 million in space. by no means is this a bad situation!! but 14 million for just Domi is not remotely true. if you are looking at all rookies ( entry level deals ) outside Domi for 5/6 of those spots, that's fine but that will still eat up roughly 4 million of that balance.

so realistically you have 10 million for Domi and any other moves you wish to make all year. again, not bad at all but not exactly what you said.

- Ross77


Could free up a little more cap space by buying back Alzner and trading Lindgren.
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Sep 2 @ 3:52 PM ET
Fleury could take Juulsen's spot but since he can go back to laval without going through Waivers (unlike Juulsen) I tend to think Noah will have the best chance to stick around if he looks good enough.

Before his injury, he looked like a NHL player to me.

- Scabeh


Fred MORE than agrees with this!!
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 2 @ 3:54 PM ET
you only have 17 contracts signed for next year (I'm not including all entry level deals), so 6 more need to be signed with 14 million in space. by no means is this a bad situation!! but 14 million for just Domi is not remotely true. if you are looking at all rookies ( entry level deals ) outside Domi for 5/6 of those spots, that's fine but that will still eat up roughly 4 million of that balance.

so realistically you have 10 million for Domi and any other moves you wish to make all year. again, not bad at all but not exactly what you said.

- Ross77


I didn't take the time to count every cap hit from young players. It could be less than 14M but in the end we only need to sign Mete and Domi as NHL regulars for next season. Rest of the spot will be taken by players already signed.

So my analysis might be butchered but the point remains, as you said, plenty of money, not alot of players to sign and there will be left for other moves.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 2 @ 4:00 PM ET
I didn't take the time to count every cap hit from young players. It could be less than 14M but in the end we only need to sign Mete and Domi as NHL regulars for next season. Rest of the spot will be taken by players already signed.

So my analysis might be butchered but the point remains, as you said, plenty of money will be left for other moves.

- Scabeh


so they're set in goal, probably on defense too. let's see what they'll do for the forwards.
if MB can't find his price for Domi, you think they could play him at center (so he doesn't lose any value) and move kk to RW? until MB finds his price I mean.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 2 @ 4:01 PM ET
I didn't take the time to count every cap hit from young players. It could be less than 14M but in the end we only need to sign Mete and Domi as NHL regulars for next season. Rest of the spot will be taken by players already signed.

So my analysis might be butchered but the point remains, as you said, plenty of money, not alot of players to sign and there will be left for other moves.

- Scabeh


To be safe you should let Winnipeg talk to Danault about an extension and then trade him to us for a couple young entry level guys. please, we did give you armia for nothing.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 2 @ 4:02 PM ET
To be safe you should let Winnipeg talk to Danault about an extension and then trade him to us for a couple young entry level guys. please, we did give you armia for nothing.
- Ross77


we bought out Mason for you guys, tks. THAT was a cap dump.
and no to Danault
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 2 @ 4:03 PM ET
To be safe you should let Winnipeg talk to Danault about an extension and then trade him to us for a couple young entry level guys. please, we did give you armia for nothing.
- Ross77


Extended Danault and Mete for Laine and the rights to punch Beaulieu in the face 5 times.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Sep 2 @ 4:05 PM ET
The Habs are not desperate to shed contracts, they have space. See above comment.
- Karine Hains


Yes. You are correct. But does having cap space mean you should trade a 3rd rd pick to acquire the highest paid backup goalie, and the highest paid starting goalie? Other teams will be offering 1st rd picks to absorb a bad contract. Surely you could have taken on a bad contract, and targeted one of the several proven UFA goalies about to be in search of a new team. Allen is a decent goalie, but I think they could have done much better things with that money to help the teams rebuild.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Sep 2 @ 4:08 PM ET
Extended Danault and Mete for Laine and the rights to punch Beaulieu in the face 5 times.
- Scabeh



only 5? should be more...
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Sep 2 @ 4:08 PM ET
I didn't take the time to count every cap hit from young players. It could be less than 14M but in the end we only need to sign Mete and Domi as NHL regulars for next season. Rest of the spot will be taken by players already signed.

So my analysis might be butchered but the point remains, as you said, plenty of money, not alot of players to sign and there will be left for other moves.

- Scabeh

As of today already signed:

Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Byron
Weal - Poehling - ?

Chiarot - Weber
Romanov - Petry
Kulak - Juulsen/ Fleury

Price
Allen

All signed and accounted for. From there they can sign or trade Evans (sign), Domi and Mete, hit UFA, do whatever. They have about $14 m in space. The rest is semantics. Hudon is RFA too
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Sep 2 @ 4:08 PM ET
I like the move for the Habs.
- Jeff Paul


I like the move for the Blues. Very few teams can absorb 4.35M going into next season, let alone for a backup goalie. Blues are one trade away from affording Pietrangelo, and they added a 3rd to their draft depth.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 2 @ 4:09 PM ET
As of today already signed:

Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Byron
Weal - Poehling - ?

Chiarot - Weber
Romanov - Petry
Kulak - Juulsen/ Fleury

Price
Allen

All signed and accounted for. From there they can sign or trade Evans (sign), Domi and Mete, hit UFA, do whatever. They have about $14 m in space. The rest is semantics. Hudon is RFA too

- Takemedrunkimhome


Hudon is gone.

But thanks, that's basically what I was getting at.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 2 @ 4:10 PM ET
Yes. You are correct. But does having cap space mean you should trade a 3rd rd pick to acquire the highest paid backup goalie, and the highest paid starting goalie? Other teams will be offering 1st rd picks to absorb a bad contract. Surely you could have taken on a bad contract, and targeted one of the several proven UFA goalies about to be in search of a new team. Allen is a decent goalie, but I think they could have done much better things with that money to help the teams rebuild.
- bikeguy99


Habs went the UFA route the last few years.

Niemi, KinkAIDS, Budaj....

It didn't work.

Habs fixed a recurring problem and it cost them a turd.
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Sep 2 @ 4:11 PM ET
Yes. You are correct. But does having cap space mean you should trade a 3rd rd pick to acquire the highest paid backup goalie, and the highest paid starting goalie? Other teams will be offering 1st rd picks to absorb a bad contract. Surely you could have taken on a bad contract, and targeted one of the several proven UFA goalies about to be in search of a new team. Allen is a decent goalie, but I think they could have done much better things with that money to help the teams rebuild.
- bikeguy99


It’s for only one year. Not a big issue cap-wise. They’ll get relieve the year after when Primeau steps in to fill the back-up roll. They can still make moves and trades involving picks and current roster players to make more cap room. It’s only just begun.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 2 @ 4:11 PM ET
As of today already signed:

Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Byron
Weal - Poehling - ?

Chiarot - Weber
Romanov - Petry
Kulak - Juulsen/ Fleury

Price
Allen

All signed and accounted for. From there they can sign or trade Evans (sign), Domi and Mete, hit UFA, do whatever. They have about $14 m in space. The rest is semantics. Hudon is RFA too

- Takemedrunkimhome


Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia
Lehkonen - Domi - KK
Poehling - Evans - Byron

Chiarot - Weber
Kulak - Petry
Romanov - Juulsen/ Fleury

Price
Allen

top 3 lines in no particular order, maybe flip KK with Armia
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Sep 2 @ 4:12 PM ET
Habs went the UFA route the last few years.

Niemi, KinkAIDS, Budaj....

It didn't work.

Habs fixed a recurring problem and it cost them a turd.

- Scabeh


Peanut-free I hope??
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Sep 2 @ 4:19 PM ET
Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia
Lehkonen - Domi - KK
Poehling - Evans - Byron

Chiarot - Weber
Kulak - Petry
Romanov - Juulsen/ Fleury

Price
Allen

top 3 lines in no particular order, maybe flip KK with Armia

- fidopro

Pretty confident Domi is gone at this point, just a matter of when and for what
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Sep 2 @ 4:19 PM ET
Pretty confident Domi is gone at this point, just a matter of when and for what
- Takemedrunkimhome


Depends what they can get for him I guess. They shouldn't get rid of him at any cost.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Sep 2 @ 4:20 PM ET
Pretty confident Domi is gone at this point, just a matter of when and for what
- Takemedrunkimhome



agreed, but in the meantime
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