Personally I think signing Dillon would be a Substantial upgrade over petts, add a little grit, and prob cost about the same $ and would allow petts to be traded for another need. That being said petts isn’t a problem at all but I think he is replaced somewhat easily.

Letang on the other hand is just not replaceable unless you’re paying pietro 9-10 mil. We can’t trade for anything of that caliber, I can’t see any big fa signing here knowing the window is closing imminently. Trading Letang will worsen the team pretty much no matter what. The ripple effect on D would be too much, especially with the abomination of the 3rd pair.

I wasn't proposing it, my man. That was RW. I was just reacting.
- Rinosaur

I know, I know. Just agreeing with you on the nausea part.

I think velluci would be the next in line. As soon as Ruth brought him over from Charlotte, iirc, I pegged him as next in line. Happy abouti both being brought up for sure.

Letang for Domi and Petry? I just got nauseous.
- Rinosaur

Any trade to Montreal would be based around that most likely at this moment.

If Pietrangelo and Krug stay put, Letangs value will get a big pop.

Personally I think signing Dillon would be a Substantial upgrade over petts, add a little grit, and prob cost about the same $ and would allow petts to be traded for another need. That being said petts isn’t a problem at all but I think he is replaced somewhat easily.

Letang on the other hand is just not replaceable unless you’re paying pietro 9-10 mil. We can’t trade for anything of that caliber, I can’t see any big fa signing here knowing the window is closing imminently. Trading Letang will worsen the team pretty much no matter what. The ripple effect on D would be too much, especially with the abomination of the 3rd pair.
- 10inchTerror

As someone else pointed out there's no reason to touch the top four; they're excellent. It's the bottom pair that needs improving. Agree on moving Letang, well not moving Letang.

Any trade to Montreal would be based around that most likely at this moment.

If Pietrangelo and Krug stay put, Letangs value will get a big pop.
- MacPatty

And also basically eliminates any possible way to replace him, so great...

As someone else pointed out there's no reason to touch the top four; they're excellent. It's the bottom pair that needs improving. Agree on moving Letang, well not moving Letang.
- Rinosaur

I mean signing Dillon if he’s cheap is perfectly fine. I think that’s be great actually. When I posted about not touching the top 4 I meant not using any of our final trade assets or limited cap space trying to improve something that isn’t broken. If we can bring in more quality for nothing, though, then great.

And also basically eliminates any possible way to replace him, so great...
- Victoro311

Which is the point many Anti-Letang people seem to always miss.

I mean signing Dillon if he’s cheap is perfectly fine. I think that’s be great actually. When I posted about not touching the top 4 I meant not using any of our final trade assets or limited cap space trying to improve something that isn’t broken. If we can bring in more quality for nothing, though, then great.
- Victoro311

For less money? Sure, but as the other pointed out it would be under the guise that he'd cost similar money and then move Petts for other pieces. I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad idea, but just seems unnecessary in terms of priorities for this team right now.

Time for Letang to go

Not good at defense, Isn't a shutdown guy, Isn't physical, Can't lead the PP, Doesn't have a great shot and has lost a step

Oh wait, he passes nice (when he's not being a turnover machine) and he looks really slick when he's skating

I mean signing Dillon if he’s cheap is perfectly fine. I think that’s be great actually. When I posted about not touching the top 4 I meant not using any of our final trade assets or limited cap space trying to improve something that isn’t broken. If we can bring in more quality for nothing, though, then great.
- Victoro311

This would be my thought. I’m sure it’s apparent I don’t care much for Pettersson but he’s perfectly adequate in his roll. The other 3 I would deem untouchable but as a whole the are very few scenarios I would move any of the 4. Basically the one above probably being the only one. I would think in that case even Ruth would keep petts over jj for the 3rd though. The top 4 is solid though and moving Letang would be a mistake. I would like to try Domi as 3c though. Maybe they will take Légaré and D’orio haha

Letang for Domi and Petry? I just got nauseous.
- Rinosaur

Petry is a stud though...

I think Petry and Letang are a lot closer in terms of talent than people think they are.

Time for Letang to go

Not good at defense, Isn't a shutdown guy, Isn't physical, Can't lead the PP, Doesn't have a great shot and has lost a step

Oh wait, he passes nice (when he's not being a turnover machine) and he looks really slick when he's skating
- TheGame316

You don’t watch much hockey eh?

hahah I only wanted to give him a fair chance. He failled miserably lol

That said I didn't want to see Schultz go. I always found him a smart player. Wish we could tie him for a couple more years @ a reasonable price.
- Barnaby36

Schultz and smart player aren’t used very often in the same sentence.

And also basically eliminates any possible way to replace him, so great...
- Victoro311

Yeah, I mean there are two frames of thought... you stack the top 4 and hope they all stay healthy or you move letang and try to build 3 well rounded pairs on D.

I'm not on board with trading Letang unless there is GREAT value coming back. Petry and Domi aren't a great enough return.

Now if we are talking about:

Letang, JJ & Bjugstad for Petry, Domi & Mete I'll take it. Leaves the Pens with money to pick up someone like Demers to round out the D core.

Dumo-Petry
Petts-Marino
Mete-Demers

Vs

Dumo-Letang
Petts-Marino
JJ- Ruh

Petry is a stud though...

I think Petry and Letang are a lot closer in terms of talent than people think they are.
- j.boyd919

Petry is good defensively and I think like 10g/40p or something last year But he’s second pairing so it would be interesting to see how he does against top opponents in his own end vs Weber and chariot taking all the hard work.

Yeah, I mean there are two frames of thought... you stack the top 4 and hope they all stay healthy or you move letang and try to build 3 well rounded pairs on D.

I'm not on board with trading Letang unless there is GREAT value coming back. Petry and Domi aren't a great enough return.

Now if we are talking about:

Letang, JJ & Bjugstad for Petry, Domi & Mete I'll take it. Leaves the Pens with money to pick up someone like Demers to round out the D core.

Dumo-Petry
Petts-Marino
Mete-Demers

Vs

Dumo-Letang
Petts-Marino
JJ- Ruh
- MacPatty

JJ ain’t goin anywhere. GMJR (and Sid and Genos twilight years) are gonna die on that hill.

Time for Letang to go

Not good at defense, Isn't a shutdown guy, Isn't physical, Can't lead the PP, Doesn't have a great shot and has lost a step

Oh wait, he passes nice (when he's not being a turnover machine) and he looks really slick when he's skating
- TheGame316

Letang is 5th in power play goals and 11th in power play points among Dmen the last 3 seasons combined.
He is 8th in total goals by Dmen over the last 3 seasons tied with Hedman and Burns.

Laine is still young you gotta work with him. Goal scoring like that doesn't grow on trees. When he's going he's up there with Ovi in straight up dangerous shots. He's capable of 50 goal seasons.
- 668710

You aren't wrong there. I am certainly not a fan of OV comparisons though. OV came into the league an generated his own scoring chances, driving the wing and using his size/speed. Laine has been nothing more than a flat footed sniper. He requires accurate passes to be dangerous. His shot is lethal, and from far out. But he NEEDS a strong supporting cast, and will take offense away from his mates. 50 is certainly possible, and he took a step forward this season for sure. However, if you iso-cammed his shifts at 5v5, and in his defensive end, you would not believe the guy is an NHL player. His risk level on any long term deal is the highest of anyone in my opinion.

Petry is a stud though...

I think Petry and Letang are a lot closer in terms of talent than people think they are.
- j.boyd919

Sorry accidentally flagged this haha, anyways you were saying that before. Has Petry ever played top pair? I think he's good but can he handle the top pair. If so, a Letang for Domi and Petry would be a good idea.

Petry is a stud though...

I think Petry and Letang are a lot closer in terms of talent than people think they are.
- j.boyd919

Sorry accidentally flagged this haha, anyways you were saying that before. Has Petry ever played top pair? I think he's good but can he handle the top pair. If so, a Letang for Domi and Petry would be a good idea.

You aren't wrong there. I am certainly not a fan of OV comparisons though. OV came into the league an generated his own scoring chances, driving the wing and using his size/speed. Laine has been nothing more than a flat footed sniper. He requires accurate passes to be dangerous. His shot is lethal, and from far out. But he NEEDS a strong supporting cast, and will take offense away from his mates. 50 is certainly possible, and he took a step forward this season for sure. However, if you iso-cammed his shifts at 5v5, and in his defensive end, you would not believe the guy is an NHL player. His risk level on any long term deal is the highest of anyone in my opinion.
- bikeguy99

Interesting, I don't watch the Jets ever so I wouldn't know. And I wasn't comparing Laine and Ovi, just the shots. Ovi is definitely waayy better.

Sorry accidentally flagged this haha, anyways you were saying that before. Has Petry ever played top pair? I think he's good but can he handle the top pair. If so, a Letang for Domi and Petry would be a good idea.
- 668710

He plays almost 24 minutes a night, so he isn't getting anything handed to him.
edit - But I don't think Montreal does that. Not with Weber there. They want a goal scorer at forward and a youngish one. I don't know why Letang would be in their plans.

So montreal just traded for jake allen from stl at full value... wtf

Carey Price on the move?

Habs gave up a 3rd for Jake Allen, so it wasn't a dump by the Blues........

Why else would Montreal do this? 4.35 Million cap hit next year