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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Aug 30 @ 8:27 PM ET
Most would agree that Colorado's, "new NHL
/analytics talent is better than Dallas. Yet they're on the cusp of elimination.

- Michael Pachla


Crazy
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 30 @ 8:43 PM ET
Crazy
- GERBE!!!75PTS

No. It's not. There's a huge cottage industry promoting analytics as a be-all/end-all, which is actually crazy.. It's something I've been fighting for years.

This isn't baseball
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 30 @ 9:33 PM ET
I think they're already short a LHD
- Michael Pachla


I liked where you started going in this blog. A good 3C changes the complexion significantly. That + Cozens and Mitts battling for middle 6 time is a reasonable situation, even more so if they can extend Larsson (with Lazar and Asplund also as viable C options). Overpaying for an established 2C, with assets they simply can't afford, would be GMTM level short-sightedness.

For all the talk about Mitts last season, we tend to overlook that ERod was expected to be a viable middle 6 C.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 30 @ 9:48 PM ET
Is it just me or is this management group more talkative than the last one.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Aug 30 @ 10:32 PM ET
No. It's not. There's a huge cottage industry promoting analytics as a be-all/end-all, which is actually crazy.. It's something I've been fighting for years.

This isn't baseball

- Michael Pachla


The stars just got lucky
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Aug 30 @ 10:46 PM ET
Scott Wheeler
@scottcwheeler
Rossi had a number of professional teams in Europe interested in signing him. He, his family, and his agent Serge Payer decided that focusing on training and preparing to make the NHL club that drafts him was the best route. They think he’ll be in the NHL this winter


Told you he be ready
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Aug 30 @ 10:53 PM ET
Scott Wheeler
@scottcwheeler
Rossi had a number of professional teams in Europe interested in signing him. He, his family, and his agent Serge Payer decided that focusing on training and preparing to make the NHL club that drafts him was the best route. They think he’ll be in the NHL this winter


Told you he be ready

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Yes, because agents are known to come out and say their clients aren’t ready for the NHL. Pump the breaks on Rossi for a little because:

1. If he is NHL ready he’s not lasting to pick #8
2. If he doesn’t last to #8 you’ll be crying for years he’s not a Sabre (Keller ring a bell)
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 1:01 AM ET
Probably.

Broads and I were talking about this earlier. If JB were still GM I would say this outcome would be about 90% likely. I dont know what Adams and Krueger will do. Maybe it'll be the same but at least there's a possibility that things will be different.

I actually think theyll acquire someone at-or-above the mendoza line of Bonino.

Hope springs eternal, Yada yada

- jcragcrumple


Why is Bonino the mendoza line? He's damn good.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 1:18 AM ET
Yes, because agents are known to come out and say their clients aren’t ready for the NHL. Pump the breaks on Rossi for a little because:

1. If he is NHL ready he’s not lasting to pick #8
2. If he doesn’t last to #8 you’ll be crying for years he’s not a Sabre (Keller ring a bell)

- turbo044


https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2020/

Lundell is the most NHL ready of all and he'll be available at 8. There are many more reasons he would be available at 8 besides being NHL ready.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 31 @ 7:18 AM ET
https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2020/

Lundell is the most NHL ready of all and he'll be available at 8. There are many more reasons he would be available at 8 besides being NHL ready.

- kingcong39

It would be nice if we had a choice between Rossi or Lundell even Holtz. Lundell is gonna be a very good hockey player.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 7:27 AM ET
It would be nice if we had a choice between Rossi or Lundell even Holtz. Lundell is gonna be a very good hockey player.
- Buff36


Even if the choice would be between Lundell and Drysdale, it would still be two high quality players available.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 31 @ 7:35 AM ET
Even if the choice would be between Lundell and Drysdale, it would still be two high quality players available.
- kingcong39

Oh, very true. Just thinking forward at that pick. But Drysdale is gonna be very good to.
G - Man
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.13.2020

Aug 31 @ 8:01 AM ET
25 yrs old. In his prime. I actually like him and would entertain a Monahan trade with a swap of firsts and Buffalo sending either Montour or the rights to Pilut the other way
- Michael Pachla



I would be very surprised if that would be enough to get Monahan. I Think Calgary would need a top six forward added to the package. Perhaps Thompson, Mitts, or Kahun.

I still think that Dvorak is a better option. It could be that you could get him for 2020 2nd, and a protected 2021 1st and Asplund. He will likely be your 3rd line center in a year or two because I believe in Cozens. He is signed for four years, at a decent cap hit, and is a strong face-off man. You rarely see Centers traded one-for-one. It usually takes a package.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 31 @ 8:14 AM ET
I would be very surprised if that would be enough to get Monahan. I Think Calgary would need a top six forward added to the package. Perhaps Thompson, Mitts, or Kahun.

I still think that Dvorak is a better option. It could be that you could get him for 2020 2nd, and a protected 2021 1st and Asplund. He will likely be your 3rd line center in a year or two because I believe in Cozens. He is signed for four years, at a decent cap hit, and is a strong face-off man. You rarely see Centers traded one-for-one. It usually takes a package.

- G - Man

Dvorak is high on my list to, and Arizona is tight to the cap.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Aug 31 @ 8:34 AM ET
I would be very surprised if that would be enough to get Monahan. I Think Calgary would need a top six forward added to the package. Perhaps Thompson, Mitts, or Kahun.

I still think that Dvorak is a better option. It could be that you could get him for 2020 2nd, and a protected 2021 1st and Asplund. He will likely be your 3rd line center in a year or two because I believe in Cozens. He is signed for four years, at a decent cap hit, and is a strong face-off man. You rarely see Centers traded one-for-one. It usually takes a package.

- G - Man



Why are we trading all that for your next year's 3rd line C?

A first? Really?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 31 @ 8:39 AM ET
Why are we trading all that for your next year's 3rd line C?

A first? Really?

- Powerslave

Were not
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 31 @ 8:44 AM ET
Jags cleaning house, just released Fournette.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 31 @ 8:47 AM ET
OH MY GOSH, YOU GUYS! WE'RE GETTING TAYLOR HALL?!!!
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Aug 31 @ 8:52 AM ET
OH MY GOSH, YOU GUYS! WE'RE GETTING TAYLOR HALL?!!!
- buffalofan19



Hall is not a center
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 31 @ 8:56 AM ET
Hall is not a center
- Powerslave

Really hasn't done poop the last 3yrs, seems to always be hurt.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 9:07 AM ET
Really hasn't done poop the last 3yrs, seems to always be hurt.
- Buff36


He had 37 in 33 games 2 years ago and 93 in 76 games 3 years ago. That seems like more than poop.

He was not great last year. Agreed on that.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Aug 31 @ 9:18 AM ET
He had 37 in 33 games 2 years ago and 93 in 76 games 3 years ago. That seems like more than poop.

He was not great last year. Agreed on that.

- kingcong39



Still wouldn't sign him to the obligatory 7 year deal, which brings him to 35 years old
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 9:19 AM ET
Still wouldn't sign him to the obligatory 7 year deal, which brings him to 35 years old
- Powerslave


Absolutely agree on that, but he's definitely done more than poop in the past 3 seasons.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 31 @ 9:20 AM ET
He had 37 in 33 games 2 years ago and 93 in 76 games 3 years ago. That seems like more than poop.

He was not great last year. Agreed on that.

- kingcong39


Sort of related:

The Coyotes have 1 draft pick in the top three rounds in the next two years (1/6). Yeesh. Talk about services missed with Chayka
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 31 @ 9:30 AM ET
Absolutely agree on that, but he's definitely done more than poop in the past 3 seasons.
- kingcong39

What Hall are you getting, might be fun to see him next to Eichel. Personally I don't think he's worth the contract he will get.
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