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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 1 @ 12:31 PM ET
And then firing said agent.

Wonder if Montreal would deal within the division.

- Powerslave

Max p had the same agent That he fired Then he was traded
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 1 @ 12:33 PM ET
If the best player available to this team this offseason is a winger (like Ehlers) go get him.

Max Domi is not very good. He’s empty calorie point producer who’s bad at a lot of things

- sbroads24


When you say empty calorie, what do you mean?

At even strength last year, his points per 60 of 1.92 was 108th out of 600, and out produced other players such as Sam Reinhart, Anthony Cirelli, Taylor Hall, Nicklas Backstrom, and Christian Dvorak.

His most common linemates were Suzuki, Armia, Paul Byron, and Jordan Weal.

Last year, his even strength points per 60 of 2.88 was 8th in the league out of 600.

He's been receiving roughly 55% O-Zone starts the past 2 seasons.

I agree that his defense has not been good, but it has shown steady improvement the past 3 seasons, which is in contrast to Sean Monahan, for example, who has not shown almost any improvement defensively and has been on a better team.
ThundernLightning
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.12.2008

Sep 1 @ 12:33 PM ET
I want exactly ZERO to do with Domi. Me guy, his teams don't win
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Sep 1 @ 12:34 PM ET
You ever watch a man's sh1t get pushed in?

Because this is what you are advocating.

- TheSabresTaco

Calling Gerbe ! Calling Gerbe !
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 1 @ 12:34 PM ET
If the best player available to this team this offseason is a winger (like Ehlers) go get him.

Max Domi is not very good. He’s empty calorie point producer who’s bad at a lot of things

- sbroads24[
/quote]

Hes an Energizer Bunny that's fun to watch And won't cost that much and is better at defense then Sean monahan not by much though lol
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 1 @ 12:36 PM ET
If that’s the cost yes. Domi is a good EV scorer so it’s not all bad. He doesn’t really drive offense though and is bad defensively.

His 72 point 28 goal year is an outlier of the 5 he’s played

- sbroads24


What data are you using for the bolded above?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 1 @ 12:36 PM ET
I want exactly ZERO to do with Domi. Me guy, his teams don't win
- ThundernLightning


Yet he risked his own life to play this playoffs
For his team
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 1 @ 12:39 PM ET
Ehlers has played with Wheeler, Scheifele, Laine and Connor this past season as his most common linemates.

He did not out produce Domi's peak from last year, where Domi played with much lesser linemates.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Sep 1 @ 12:40 PM ET
That line would be money
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Essentialy 3 rookies on a line, what could possibly go wrong.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 1 @ 12:41 PM ET
If Domi is the 2C we’d need to keep someone like Larsson to take some D zone work.

Or trust Krueger’s system would improve his D game

- sbroads24


Agreed. Domi + Mitts/Cozens fighting for time is workable, if Larsson is around. It falls apart fast without a strong defensive C to balance things.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 1 @ 12:50 PM ET
Agreed. Domi + Mitts/Cozens fighting for time is workable, if Larsson is around. It falls apart fast without a strong defensive C to balance things.
- Lunaion


It's important to note 2 things.

The made up line of Domi and Cozens included Craig Smith, who is a strong player defensively from the wing.

Also, Larsson is not the only defensively strong Center they could go after.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 1 @ 12:50 PM ET
What data are you using for the bolded above?
- kingcong39

His expected goals for/60 is nothing to write home about over the past 3 seasons.

He ranks 8th among MTL over that time frame (min 1000 minutes)

His numbers aren't bad, at all. But I wouldn't say he drives offensive production

For someone who is measurably bad on D his offense barely evens that out and we'd probably be paying him how much per?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
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Sep 1 @ 12:51 PM ET
Essentialy 3 rookies on a line, what could possibly go wrong.
- ImThatGuy


How is it 3 rookies ?
Just 2
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 1 @ 12:55 PM ET
Ehlers has played with Wheeler, Scheifele, Laine and Connor this past season as his most common linemates.

He did not out produce Domi's peak from last year, where Domi played with much lesser linemates.

- kingcong39

And Ehlers was the best of that bunch this year
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 1 @ 1:06 PM ET
And Ehlers was the best of that bunch this year
- sbroads24


Totally agree.

It's not possible to believe Domi, playing with better wingers at his natural and preferred position of Center, wouldn't produce at a greater rate?

I guess I am confused by the empty calorie producer line.

What data are you using to support that and saying he does not drive offense?
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 1 @ 1:07 PM ET
Monahan > Domi

I am not a fan of Domi at all. He pushed out of Montreal / out played by rookies / kids Montreal drafted.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 1 @ 1:08 PM ET
It's important to note 2 things.

The made up line of Domi and Cozens included Craig Smith, who is a strong player defensively from the wing.

Also, Larsson is not the only defensively strong Center they could go after.

- kingcong39


Sure, you could possibly replace Larsson with another Larsson.

I didn't look at anyone's lines. It's just a waste of time imo. I only care about the depth chart.


dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Sep 1 @ 1:09 PM ET
Do something Darcy dammit!
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
If the best player available to this team this offseason is a winger (like Ehlers) go get him.

Max Domi is not very good. He’s empty calorie point producer who’s bad at a lot of things

- sbroads24



He'd fit in well here
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
Monahan > Domi

I am not a fan of Domi at all. He pushed out of Montreal / out played by rookies / kids Montreal drafted.

- Sabretooth9


Danault is the perfect fit here.

Everyone else talked about on here lately is all dependant on price.

If it takes 8 to get Monahan that hurts us more than helps us.

hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Sep 1 @ 1:13 PM ET
The legend Matt Ellis is now director of Player development. I smell a championship in our future!!

Gawd we can't do anything right... Matt Ellis while a good locker room guy is an absolute plug.. I hate being a Sabres fan.. I really do, but rest assured i'll watch every franking game when they play again....

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 1 @ 1:15 PM ET
Totally agree.

It's not possible to believe Domi, playing with better wingers at his natural and preferred position of Center, wouldn't produce at a greater rate?

I guess I am confused by the empty calorie producer line.

What data are you using to support that and saying he does not drive offense?

- kingcong39

I'll redact the empty calorie point producer because he's a better scorer at EV than I thought.

But is on ice Xgf/60 was 60th among centers with at least 500 minutes this year.

His on ice scoring chance for % was 58th. Behind Danault who was 3rd.

His offensive zone starts/60 were a lot higher than JK and Danault.

Danault is a ton better. And will probably get paid less, and worth less on the market



GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 1 @ 1:15 PM ET
The legend Matt Ellis is now director of Player development. I smell a championship in our future!!

Gawd we can't do anything right... Matt Ellis while a good locker room guy is an absolute plug.. I hate being a Sabres fan.. I really do, but rest assured i'll watch every franking game when they play again....


- hehateme


Please tell me how hes not good ill listen...
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Sep 1 @ 1:15 PM ET
Why are we trying to get Scott Malkinson? No thanks.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 1 @ 1:16 PM ET
Monahan > Domi

I am not a fan of Domi at all. He pushed out of Montreal / out played by rookies / kids Montreal drafted.

- Sabretooth9


Thats false lol
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