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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 3 @ 6:16 PM ET
Please see below for the GF/60, xGF/60, xGA/60, and GA/60 for the past three seasons for each of Gaudreau and Monahan (keep in mind, + is good for GF stats and - is good for GA stats):

Gaudreau (GF/60, xGF/60 -> xGA/60, GA/60)

19-20: -.039, +.051 -> +.013, -.013
18-19: +.239, +.213 -> +.079, +.088
17-18: +.268, +.199 -> +.131, +.082

Monahan (GF/60, xGF/60 -> xGA/60, GA/60)

19-20: +.003, +.023 -> +.156, +.124
18-19: +.176, +.187 -> +.203, +.227
17-18: +.303, +.252 -> +.164, +.094

- kingcong39


So they're roughly equal in offensive impact (Monahan leading GF in 2 out of 3 years and Gaudreau's xGF better 2/3 years) and Gaudreau has a sizeable defensive advantage.

Thank you for posting this

To me this shows that Gaudreau carries Monahan defensively, but i don't see it as proof of the same as it relates to offense. I think Monahan generates.

If you stuck him with Reinhart and Mojo (especially with this being L2 instead of L1 in terms of matchups) I'd expect better results defensively and good offensive results
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 3 @ 6:28 PM ET
So they're roughly equal in offensive impact (Monahan leading GF in 2 out of 3 years and Gaudreau's xGF better 2/3 years) and Gaudreau has a sizeable defensive advantage.

Thank you for posting this

To me this shows that Gaudreau carries Monahan defensively, but i don't see it as proof of the same as it relates to offense. I think Monahan generates.

If you stuck him with Reinhart and Mojo (especially with this being L2 instead of L1 in terms of matchups) I'd expect better results defensively and good offensive results

- jcragcrumple


Ideally, they pair Skinner and Monahan with a player like Craig Smith who is strong at both ends of the ice.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 3 @ 6:33 PM ET
I think the 10% chance of Raymond falling to us in the draft is 0.01% now.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 3 @ 6:37 PM ET
I think the 10% chance of Raymond falling to us in the draft is 0.01% now.
- Pegullaville


So what, the rest of them stink now? We'll be fine and we'll get a good player regardless.

Unless you are high on him above most of the tier two guys. Who knows. Doubt a few games in September really change the rankings.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 3 @ 6:42 PM ET
So what, the rest of them stink now? We'll be fine and we'll get a good player regardless.

Unless you are high on him above most of the tier two guys. Who knows. Doubt a few games in September really change the rankings.

- TheSabresTaco


My hopes are for Rossi or Holtz.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Sep 3 @ 6:43 PM ET
I think the 10% chance of Raymond falling to us in the draft is 0.01% now.
- Pegullaville


Just increases the chance Rossi falls to us.... 😊
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 3 @ 6:48 PM ET
So what, the rest of them stink now? We'll be fine and we'll get a good player regardless.

Unless you are high on him above most of the tier two guys. Who knows. Doubt a few games in September really change the rankings.

- TheSabresTaco


Well sir, I wouldn’t be advocating against trading 8OA if I thought the crop at the top sucked

Raymond is most likely Detroit or Ottawa bound however.

If he fell to Buffalo and Adams didn’t sprint up to the stage to hand in that draft card I’d be done with him already
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 3 @ 7:02 PM ET
How would they factor that in? There's no way to do that without literally guessing at a reduction.

I would be very surprised if Sheary took a one year deal for $1M. I could see him taking a 2 year deal at $2.5M per, like Kahun though.

The players union definitely took notice, and not in a good way, when LaBanc signed that deal last summer for one year at $1M.

- kingcong39


I'm taking the under. Could easily be wrong. I'm glad he's out of Buffalo.

I don't know what they've done with their projections, since the pandemic. I don't think it's all guess work.

LaBanc really hurt himself. 33 points -33. Ouch!




Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 3 @ 7:10 PM ET
My hopes are for Rossi or Holtz.
- kingcong39

Yeah I hope for 1 of those two, but I have no problem with Lundell either.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 3 @ 7:15 PM ET
Yeah I hope for 1 of those two, but I have no problem with Lundell either.
- Buff36


Latest draft rumors are Detroit taking Perfetti, although that's been out there for a quite a while, and Ottawa taking Sanderson with the 5th overall pick.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 3 @ 7:17 PM ET
Latest draft rumors are Detroit taking Perfetti, although that's been out there for a quite a while, and Ottawa taking Sanderson with the 5th overall pick.
- kingcong39

Then Anaheim taking Drysdale, this could get interesting fast.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 3 @ 7:21 PM ET
NJ go with Raymond or Holtz
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 3 @ 7:28 PM ET
I'm taking the under. Could easily be wrong. I'm glad he's out of Buffalo.

I don't know what they've done with their projections, since the pandemic. I don't think it's all guess work.

LaBanc really hurt himself. 33 points -33. Ouch!

- Lunaion


Now we'll see if the conspiracy thought is true (he took a comically low 1 year deal to allow them to re-sign vets to win the cup whith the understanding they'll make him whole later)
Leninthebuff
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.17.2012

Sep 3 @ 7:29 PM ET
Then Anaheim taking Drysdale, this could get interesting fast.
- Buff36


Both D-men going between 4-7 is a big plus for the Sabres.


Here's a trade question for the board on the basis Johnny Hockey signs a 5yr ext

Gaudreau - Reinhart
Lucic - Okposo
Riddich - Hutton
Pilut - Cal 2nd
Mitts

If Gaudreau can drive a line, trade for McCann and put Olofsson at RW
Sign a UFA RW like Dadonov to put with Skinner and Eichel
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 3 @ 7:32 PM ET
Then Anaheim taking Drysdale, this could get interesting fast.
- Buff36

With JB gone hopefully we don’t pick a D with 8 Oa. I would quit if we do.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 3 @ 7:35 PM ET
Or could end up being a career 4th liner
- SabresFaninIndiana


Or Dal Colle, 5 years later, 85 games and 17 points with 11:58 ATOI.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 3 @ 7:40 PM ET
Both D-men going between 4-7 is a big plus for the Sabres.

Here's a trade question for the board on the basis Johnny Hockey signs a 5yr ext

Gaudreau - Reinhart
Lucic - Okposo
Riddich - Hutton
Pilut - Cal 2nd
Mitts

If Gaudreau can drive a line, trade for McCann and put Olofsson at RW
Sign a UFA RW like Dadonov to put with Skinner and Eichel

- Leninthebuff


And then pretend the cap doesn't exist?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 3 @ 8:02 PM ET
With JB gone hopefully we don’t pick a D with 8 Oa. I would quit if we do.
- SabresFaninIndiana

Guess it depends on what moves are made before the draft and whose there at 8. Drysdale has top pair written all over him.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 3 @ 8:05 PM ET
And then pretend the cap doesn't exist?
- kingcong39


What? Like Toronto?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 3 @ 9:01 PM ET
Pass that link along to anyone you think would be interested.

I became an affiliate so I get some dough when ppl sign up.

Not sure how much but I’ll take free money.

- dadeadhead


What is it?
I just swit had from HastleFree Streams to Dynasty Streams...4 Live TV connections + 4 Movie/ TV VOD ...all for $30/month.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Sep 3 @ 9:36 PM ET
What is it?
I just swit had from HastleFree Streams to Dynasty Streams...4 Live TV connections + 4 Movie/ TV VOD ...all for $30/month.

- IonSabres



Sent you a pm.
Beethoven
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.03.2019

Sep 3 @ 9:59 PM ET
Remember when Terry Pegula said “From this point forward, the Buffalo Sabres’ sole reason for existence is to win a Stanley Cup?”

And “Money is no longer an issue.” “If I want to make money I’ll drill another well.”

Yeah me too.

Turns out that dipstick was full of it.

Carry on.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Sep 3 @ 10:02 PM ET
Remember when Terry Pegula said “From this point forward, the Buffalo Sabres’ sole reason for existence is to win a Stanley Cup?”

And “Money is no longer an issue.” “If I want to make money I’ll drill another well.”

Yeah me too.

Turns out that dipstick was full of it.

Carry on.

- Beethoven


I think that ended when he wouldn't pay ROR his bonus.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Sep 3 @ 10:02 PM ET
Remember when Terry Pegula said “From this point forward, the Buffalo Sabres’ sole reason for existence is to win a Stanley Cup?”

And “Money is no longer an issue.” “If I want to make money I’ll drill another well.”

Yeah me too.

Turns out that dipstick was full of it.

Carry on.

- Beethoven



“Welcome to the party pal!”
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Sep 3 @ 10:54 PM ET
What is it?
I just swit had from HastleFree Streams to Dynasty Streams...4 Live TV connections + 4 Movie/ TV VOD ...all for $30/month.

- IonSabres


What’s all this now? Trying to find a new service for the new house because I don’t like paying direct tv or Fios ridiculous prices.
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