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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 27 @ 10:07 PM ET
Attempting to diminish my job doesn’t make it ok for a Cop to shoot someone in the back
- jdfitz77

Wow, that's not the point. Have a good night.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Aug 27 @ 10:07 PM ET
Nothing on that video justified someone getting shot in the back
If u believe that, then u shouldn’t be a police officer
And you’re a sh!tty human
Bit that makes sense being a supporter of president dipsh!t

- jdfitz77



Ok buddy. Whatever makes you feel better about your miserable life
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:07 PM ET
this is all I found

John Wawrow ‏Verified account @john_wawrow #Blues GM Doug Armstrong says #Sabres were very insistent on landing Tage Thompson.


But the Truth will come out

And that's why Botts shoved tage down our throats
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 27 @ 10:07 PM ET
Facts don't matter, and if they do, they're racist. These people would still be alive/not paralyzed had they just complied. That's it.

I can't believe they even defend some of these fkng people.. Blake raped a minor for (frank)s sake. He was a piece of poop, violent felon criminal.

- BareMetal

LMAO you were defending the nut bag that murdered two people yesterday.

Funny how that “self defense” went away after it was known he shot and killed someone before those people chased him down.

Do you guys love being on the wrong side of things this much?
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:07 PM ET
Nothing on that video justified someone getting shot in the back
If u believe that, then u shouldn’t be a police officer
And you’re a sh!tty human
Bit that makes sense being a supporter of president dipsh!t

- jdfitz77

my two cents


"cops said drop the knife

picture shows what could be a knife

he clearly was not trying to step into the car

there was a knife on the drive side floorboard"

if there was not a perceived notion that all cops or most cops are dirty, would would you assume based on the quoted part?


serious question
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:12 PM ET
Ok buddy. Whatever makes you feel better about your miserable life
- Fattony1187


Says the guy who supports ppl being unjustly shot in the back
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:12 PM ET
LMAO you were defending the nut bag that murdered two people yesterday.

Funny how that “self defense” went away after it was known he shot and killed someone before those people chased him down.

Do you guys love being on the wrong side of things this much?

- sbroads24


Did you watch the video? It was pretty disgusting
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:16 PM ET
Says the guy who supports ppl being unjustly shot in the back
- jdfitz77

so if cop says stop, keep walking?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:20 PM ET
my two cents


"cops said drop the knife

picture shows what could be a knife

he clearly was not trying to step into the car

there was a knife on the drive side floorboard"

if there was not a perceived notion that all cops or most cops are dirty, would would you assume based on the quoted part?


serious question

- navinrjohnson


1- he should’ve been detained BEFORE that
2- he did not “break free” from the cops,
he got up and WALKED back around to the driver side of the car
3- ok, let’s assume that there was a knife on the seat or the floor or wherever...
what i believe a REASONABLE RESPONSE from the Cop would be to take steps back to the point where he FELT SAFE and then had the TIME NEEDED to properly asses the situation
4- then if the guy came at him with the knife,
then (AND ONLY THEN) should the officer have fired his weapon

Because being ATTACKED with a weapon is NECESSARY for the Cop to call it it self defense

Pretty ridiculous to claim someone is “attacking” you when their back is turned
And there’s absolutely no way whatsoever for the cop to know if that man was going to attack him

Step back, give yourself time & space to handle the situation
Don’t just fire off 7 rounds into the guy’s back
That just isn’t right
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:21 PM ET
so if cop says stop, keep walking?
- navinrjohnson


Huh?
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:25 PM ET
Did you watch the video? It was pretty disgusting
- GERBE!!!75PTS

the story needs to unfold though

the first guy shot, threw a Molotov Cocktail at him first, according to some


the second guy shot, hit him on the head with a skate board first


the third guy shot, according to some, was waiving a pistol at him first


doesn't make it right of course, and if all 4 had stayed home that night they would all be alive and not hurt today
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:27 PM ET
Huh?
- jdfitz77

if the cop says drop the knife, and stop walking


and you continue to walk away, and reach into your car


something bad is going to happen


SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 27 @ 10:28 PM ET
this is all I found

John Wawrow ‏Verified account @john_wawrow #Blues GM Doug Armstrong says #Sabres were very insistent on landing Tage Thompson.


But the Truth will come out

And that's why Botts shoved tage down our throats

- GERBE!!!75PTS


This doesn’t prove that Thomas was offered. Coulda been rage or kyrou. Botts said tage. And at the time those two were kinda a wash if I remember correctly. Anyways the real miss was whatever package AZ was offering along with Domi. Not that he’s a world beater but he’s better then anything that came outta the Stl deal
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:28 PM ET
1- he should’ve been detained BEFORE that

- jdfitz77

the 911 call came in because of him


he is why the cops showed up
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:29 PM ET
if the cop says drop the knife, and stop walking


and you continue to walk away, and reach into your car


something bad is going to happen

- navinrjohnson


Doesn’t justify being shot in the back, period
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:29 PM ET

Don’t just fire off 7 rounds into the guy’s back
That just isn’t right

- jdfitz77

is it more likely he dropped the knife on the floorboard after being shot, or that he had it on the floorboard with his kids in the car?



I mean the cops did say drop the knife
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:30 PM ET
the 911 call came in because of him


he is why the cops showed up

- navinrjohnson


And the Cops had a chance to detain him & didn’t do their jobs correctly

Nowhere on that video does it show him “attacking cops with a knife”
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:31 PM ET
Doesn’t justify being shot in the back, period
- jdfitz77

if a cop has it's lights on, and you do not pull over


and eventually they shoot the tire because you refuse to pull over, is it their fault you die when the car crashes, or your fault



not you of course
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:31 PM ET
the story needs to unfold though

the first guy shot, threw a Molotov Cocktail at him first, according to some


the second guy shot, hit him on the head with a skate board first


the third guy shot, according to some, was waiving a pistol at him first


doesn't make it right of course, and if all 4 had stayed home that night they would all be alive and not hurt today

- navinrjohnson


The Point is he should not have that gun who's to say he doesn't gun down a school someday
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:31 PM ET
is it more likely he dropped the knife on the floorboard after being shot, or that he had it on the floorboard with his kids in the car?



I mean the cops did say drop the knife

- navinrjohnson


Ok, let’s say that true
He still NEVER attacked the cops with the knife
Thus, shooting him was NOT justified...
ESPECIALLY IN THE BACK 7 TIMES
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:33 PM ET
And the Cops had a chance to detain him & didn’t do their jobs correctly

Nowhere on that video does it show him “attacking cops with a knife”

- jdfitz77

I guess it comes down to what rights do the cops have to detain someone when they refuse


and there is a suspicious weapon



are the cops suppose to let him go?


have a 120 mph chase that may lead to others dying?



I mean at some point the line has to be drawn and perhaps society needs to come together to figure out where that line is instead of chanting defund the police and fry them like bacon

navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:34 PM ET
Ok, let’s say that true
He still NEVER attacked the cops with the knife
Thus, shooting him was NOT justified...
ESPECIALLY IN THE BACK 7 TIMES

- jdfitz77

if your bar calls 911 for a suspect with a knife, what should the cops do when he or she ignores their plea to stop?
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:36 PM ET
The Point is he should not have that gun who's to say he doesn't gun down a school someday
- GERBE!!!75PTS

riffles fall into the hunting category though for 16 and 17 year olds

that's a legal question that is probably split down the middle right now in our country
JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:38 PM ET
the 911 call came in because of him


he is why the cops showed up

- navinrjohnson

I think his specific point is that sometime during the time the guy stood up from the ground, slowly walked from the rear passenger side of the car to the front driver side of the car, and attempted to open the car door, the three police officers should have detained him.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:38 PM ET
if your bar calls 911 for a suspect with a knife, what should the cops do when he or she ignores their plea to stop?
- navinrjohnson


If he turns & is walking out the back door...
then they have NO RIGHT to shoot him in the back

If he comes at them or anyone else with the knife,
the yes, shoot
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