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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Buffalo's No. 2 center quandary, choice #3--Dylan Strome
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SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 27 @ 9:15 AM ET
Very solid/cheap middle 6 winger. Considering Arizona's insane cap issues, it would behoove them to keep him.

They have overages and about 4M in space to bring in 4 F's and a D.

- TheSabresTaco

would anyone be interested in stepan for picks or prospects? he is overpaid but with only one year.. could be a decent 3rd line center maybe and gotten for cheap
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 27 @ 9:18 AM ET
They'd be looking for cheap back. Let's see.


Montour and Mitts for Hammer, Garland, Soderberg

- TheSabresTaco

Miller
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 27 @ 9:21 AM ET
Well talk with you Guys a little later, gotta go to the Doctors and get this harness off my Shoulder, hopefully this last Surgery took.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Aug 27 @ 9:26 AM ET
Bennett has played the wing I believe his entire career with Calgary, and definitely the past 2 seasons, at least.

One serious question: Why on earth would the Sabres trade the 8th overall pick to the Blackhawks for Strome?

The Blackhawks blogger, in this blog that Pachla wrote, suggested one of the two deals below would work.

If the cost to get Strome is the 8th overall, then that is an easy pass.

- Strome and center Dylan Sikura (2014, 178th-overall) for Casey Mittelstadt

- Strome, Sikura and left-handed defenseman Olli Maata ($4.08M cap-hit for two more seasons) for goalie Jonas Johansson and winger Tage Thompson

- kingcong39


Sorry for the confusion. For Strome. No 8. I mean, trade for Strome NOT using 8, or Samson or cozens.

Find a package outside of those pieces and the obvious ones (jack. Dahlin. Joker).
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 27 @ 9:30 AM ET
Well talk with you Guys a little later, gotta go to the Doctors and get this harness off my Shoulder, hopefully this last Surgery took.
- Buff36



good luck with that m8
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Aug 27 @ 9:41 AM ET
Well talk with you Guys a little later, gotta go to the Doctors and get this harness off my Shoulder, hopefully this last Surgery took.
- Buff36



Hope it goes well 👍🏻
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 27 @ 9:49 AM ET
Garland is a RW
- Buff36


CapFriendly has him listed as both an RW and LW, and their depth chart has him as their 3rd line LW.

https://www.capfriendly.com/depth-charts/coyotes
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 27 @ 9:50 AM ET
would anyone be interested in stepan for picks or prospects? he is overpaid but with only one year.. could be a decent 3rd line center maybe and gotten for cheap
- SabresFaninIndiana


Sure, Stepan for a conditional 6th round pick, with the condition being the Sabres needing to find another Center via trade or FA, as Stepan is not enough on his own.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 27 @ 9:52 AM ET
Sorry for the confusion. For Strome. No 8. I mean, trade for Strome NOT using 8, or Samson or cozens.

Find a package outside of those pieces and the obvious ones (jack. Dahlin. Joker).

- Gr8daygo


Am I wrong that it seems both deals proposed below by the Blackhawks blogger are an easy yes from the Sabres perspective, which means it would likely cost a bit more to get Strome than what is below?

- Strome and center Dylan Sikura (2014, 178th-overall) for Casey Mittelstadt

- Strome, Sikura and left-handed defenseman Olli Maata ($4.08M cap-hit for two more seasons) for goalie Jonas Johansson and winger Tage Thompson
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 27 @ 10:07 AM ET
That might be why Garland is involved, in order to sweeten the pot to get rid of Hammer, however, I believe Garland is a LW, which means Olofsson would likely need to move to RW.
- kingcong39


If this is something that can be done, it should have been done already. Our left side is miles ahead of our right. Idk if it can be done though.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 27 @ 10:09 AM ET
Garland is a RW
- Buff36


I like even better. And I've also heard that he can get 70 points on jacks wing, because it's that easy
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 27 @ 10:12 AM ET
Miller
- Buff36


Hammer, Garland, and Stepan for Miller/Montour and a later pick
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Aug 27 @ 10:16 AM ET
Am I wrong that it seems both deals proposed below by the Blackhawks blogger are an easy yes from the Sabres perspective, which means it would likely cost a bit more to get Strome than what is below?

- Strome and center Dylan Sikura (2014, 178th-overall) for Casey Mittelstadt

- Strome, Sikura and left-handed defenseman Olli Maata ($4.08M cap-hit for two more seasons) for goalie Jonas Johansson and winger Tage Thompson

- kingcong39


Yeah I agree there. I kinda like the second deal. Gives us a 2c and 2LD and Sikura who I don’t know. But plugging two holes with Tage and Jonas is a no brainer. Go find a 2rw and some Larry’s and let’s see what we got.

I like Jonas but with Ullmark, 6k and the other guy (Portello?). Just draft another tendy and keep the pipeline loaded. Sign a vet for Rochester.

But you are correct. Being such an easy yes means something else has to be added.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Aug 27 @ 10:25 AM ET
So do we have any idea why the entire marketing department for the bills is quitting at the same time, in the middle of a pandemic. Are they that upset about Chris Brown?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:28 AM ET
Yeah I agree there. I kinda like the second deal. Gives us a 2c and 2LD and Sikura who I don’t know. But plugging two holes with Tage and Jonas is a no brainer. Go find a 2rw and some Larry’s and let’s see what we got.

I like Jonas but with Ullmark, 6k and the other guy (Portello?). Just draft another tendy and keep the pipeline loaded. Sign a vet for Rochester.

But you are correct. Being such an easy yes means something else has to be added.

- Gr8daygo


Unless that deal is basically a straight cap dump to make space, why would they take Tage and Jonas only and have that be sufficient?
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Aug 27 @ 10:36 AM ET
Unless that deal is basically a straight cap dump to make space, why would they take Tage and Jonas only and have that be sufficient?
- kingcong39



$175,000 in cap space with $10.8 mill sitting on long term ir... with 5 rfa‘s. And 1 ufa, if I’m reading it right.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Aug 27 @ 10:40 AM ET
Omg that trade offer he wanted was horrible. 4 firsts (2 picks Cozens and mitts) for an aging overpriced wing. Peoples offers are crazy
- Fattony1187

It was for discussion sake if i was the gm i would not do that deal either unless kane +.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 27 @ 10:41 AM ET
I think it would be fun to do a "build your own burger" type of blog for trade proposals.

It would be poll style where we would list like 4-5 trade targets, and all vote on the package it would take to acquire.

For example

Sean Monahan

Main piece
A. 8th overall
B. Cozens
C. 2021 First
D. Montour

Secondary Piece

A. Montour
B. 2020 2nd
C. Mattias Samuelsson
D. Casey Mittelstadt
E. None

We could poll the results and based on common answers come up with the most voted on package
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Aug 27 @ 10:43 AM ET
Not that I'm personally interested in this offer, but would you:

Okposo
Cozens

for

Kane, 50%

- TheSabresTaco

ADD STROME AND 2ND BUFFALO ADDS THE 8TH OVERALL PICK THE YES
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
ADD STROME AND 2ND BUFFALO ADDS THE 8TH OVERALL PICK THE YES
- Scott1977


I don't think the 8th is in play for that. Top10 picks carry much more value than even one in the mid teens.
ThundernLightning
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.12.2008

Aug 27 @ 10:58 AM ET
I don't think the 8th is in play for that. Top10 picks carry much more value than even one in the mid teens.
- RhinoFan


If I read that right, all together it was

Cozens
#8
Okposo

for
Kane
Strome
a 2nd

Did I read that right??
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Aug 27 @ 11:02 AM ET
Am I wrong that it seems both deals proposed below by the Blackhawks blogger are an easy yes from the Sabres perspective, which means it would likely cost a bit more to get Strome than what is below?

- Strome and center Dylan Sikura (2014, 178th-overall) for Casey Mittelstadt

- Strome, Sikura and left-handed defenseman Olli Maata ($4.08M cap-hit for two more seasons) for goalie Jonas Johansson and winger Tage Thompson

- kingcong39

add a pick 2nd or d prospect i think from both teams perspective it helps both teams.


strome sikra matta for thompson mitts johansson(goalie) and 2nd this year or next year or d prospect.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 27 @ 11:06 AM ET
add a pick 2nd or d prospect i think from both teams perspective it helps both teams.


strome sikra matta for thompson mitts johansson(goalie) and 2nd this year or next year or d prospect.

- Scott1977


You just smashed the two trades together there. I wouldn't do strome sikira matta for tage mitts and Johansson let alone adding a 2nd
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 27 @ 11:12 AM ET
If I read that right, all together it was

Cozens
#8
Okposo

for
Kane
Strome
a 2nd

Did I read that right??

- ThundernLightning


That's what I gathered.

I don't think there's any chance 8 and Cozens can go for anything. We have next to nothing beyond that.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Aug 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
It was for discussion sake if i was the gm i would not do that deal either unless kane +.
- Scott1977



Kane is not worth Cozens anymore in a salary cap league
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