HAHAHA are you high? NO way the Flames are going to trade MT19 to Ottawa. Maybe you can give us the 1st round picks, Brady, Chabot and a big bag of cash to make us think about the deal.
- Dhall

That’s an idiotic trade for Ottawa and Dorion would laugh at Treliving is that was the offer. Gaudreau is 27 and probably on the backend of his prime years. How does that help a rebuilding team.
- sensarmy_11

Yeah, backend. He's scored at close to a point per game played. After a down year, he's still there. A re-building team needs solid core players that have long careers ahead of them. Gaudreau has about 5 years in his prime and 8 years left at least.
He's played 2 years longer than Marner. Would you say the same thing about Marner?

Calgary is not very good and does not appear to have much upside going forward. I believe they are about to embark on a full rebuild.

Don't think Matthew19 would be an asset they would want to move. Indeed he is probably the last player that the Flames would want to trade.

And, even if they did become open to the idea, he would be far too pricey for the Sens based on where they are and what is possible over the next few years.

Yeah, backend. He's scored at close to a point per game played. After a down year, he's still there. A re-building team needs solid core players that have long careers ahead of them. Gaudreau has about 5 years in his prime and 8 years left at least.
He's played 2 years longer than Marner. Would you say the same thing about Marner?
- Traveldude

Marner and Gaudreau have similar games. They excel playing on the perimeter and attacking the net when they get an opening. Great regular season results. Disappear in the playoffs when team defense tightens.

Yeah, backend. He's scored at close to a point per game played. After a down year, he's still there. A re-building team needs solid core players that have long careers ahead of them. Gaudreau has about 5 years in his prime and 8 years left at least.
He's played 2 years longer than Marner. Would you say the same thing about Marner?
- Traveldude

you're suggesting that a rebuilding team should trade a young star player, who hasn't even approached his prime yet, for a player who's 27, and who you claim (despite all evidence pointing the other way) has 5 years left in his prime.

i'm not saying Gaudreau doesn't help Ottawa, but they aren't trading a core player who's not even 21 yet to acquire him

as for your marner/gaudreau comparison.....it's pretty dumb. marner is 23, gaudreau is 27, one hasn't entered his prime yet, and the other is probably starting the down side of his.......the only reason that gaudreau played only 2 more seasons, despite being 4 and a half years older, is that he didn't make his NHL debut until he was almost 21, while marner was good enough to play in the NHL at 18.

Marner is much much much more valuable of a player than gaudreau

Kapanen traded to pens

Kapanen traded to pens
- Trilla

Makes senses. Two teams that missed playoff round are trying to adapt. I am guessing Leafs want one of the young Penguin goaltenders. Won't make much difference if Leafs do not improve their defensive corps and get some of their forwards to commit to playing D.

Makes senses. Two teams that missed playoff round are trying to adapt. I am guessing Leafs want one of the young Penguin goaltenders. Won't make much difference if Leafs do not improve their defensive corps and get some of their forwards to commit to playing D.
- spatso

seems leafs will get 15 OA pick this year for Kapanen as rumout from TSn say a 1st going back to leafs and pens gave up their 2021 first to minesota

Looks like Pens are giving up their 1st round pick #15 for Kapanen.

Smart move by Leafs. They can use the pick to help negotiate a trade for a defensive player.

seems leafs will get 15 OA pick this year for Kapanen as rumout from TSn say a 1st going back to leafs and pens gave up their 2021 first to minesota
- Athrin

Friedman has a similar report. Very good deal for both teams.

Friedman has a similar report. Very good deal for both teams.
- spatso

Kapanen not worth the 15OA

Kapanen not worth the 15OA
- Athrin

Not at all, although I like him as a player.

Prospect swap as well, including lindgren, who I hear is supposed to be a decent prospect?

Kapanen not worth the 15OA
- Athrin

Reports Leafs are going to take back the Jack Johnson contract. These things always get balanced out.

Kapanen not worth the 15OA
- Athrin

Well, the 15th pick isn’t helping the pens compete for a cup.

Leafs clear cap space, they get a 1st to dangle for maybe a decent dman..could end up working for them.

More moves are coming

I like the deal for both teams. Leafs wanted a burner to skate with either Crosby or Malkin. Leafs get a chance to put some assets together in order to add some serious D and some sandpaper up front.

One thing for sure is the Leafs will draft a generational player at #15. Just ask them. lol

Reports Leafs are going to take back the Jack Johnson contract. These things always get balanced out.
- spatso

JJ still a pens, Leafs bent over the pens. bad trade for pens

I like the deal for both teams. Leafs wanted a burner to skate with either Crosby or Malkin. Leafs get a chance to put some assets together in order to add some serious D and some sandpaper up front.
- spatso

that is like saying Hall for Larson was a good deal because both teams got what they wanted, its not a good deal, one team fleeced the other.

that is like saying Hall for Larson was a good deal because both teams got what they wanted, its not a good deal, one team fleeced the other.
- Athrin

I don’t see that at all.

Pens are tryna continue to win with their core and they needed someone with a low cap and term left. While Kap had a down year, he gives the pens some speed boost and skill to compliment their top 6.

Leafs clear cap, get some prospects (don’t know any of them) and a 1st.

This deal, for the leafs, feels like a “bigger picture deal”. We gotta see the moves that follow to really know if they nailed it.

As much as I like Matthew Tkachuk and think he is a great player, the Sens don't need two of the EXACT same player (gritty, net presence, physical, 20 to 30 goals a year).

I see great value in Giordano. I even see value in gaudreau (skill and speed). And clsgary would have every right to ask for one of the two high picks.

Sens only have to make one big move this year IMO. They have to leave roster space for the kids in Belleville to step up and whomever they pick at 3.

Choose wisely, PD

It was unwise to have Matthew Tkachuk as the focus of the blog... he's basically the one player that is obviously going nowhere, and it's resulted in the highly predictable number of brainless responses. Worse yet, it distracts from the more relevant conversation, which is what kind of assets are Calgary most likely to try to part with to strategically position themselves for the coming Seattle expansion draft.

If you haven't played around with this expansion draft tool, it's very interesting...
https://www.capfriendly.c...m/expansion-draft/seattle

At minimum, I don't see the Flames parting with any of Tkachuk, Monahan, Dube, Hanifin, Valimaki, or Andersson. Calgary seems to be looking for a shake-up deal including Gaudreau, and possibly someone like Backlund and one of the older d-men. To me, that sounds like more of a "king-maker" deal for a team moving towards a potential competitive window, like maybe Florida, Carolina, or Minnesota. Ottawa's most likely interest would be in younger players like Bennett or Kylington, that Calgary would be less likely trying to move, and realistically only have 3rd line/3rd pairing impact. The exception might be Lindholm, who could help address the limited depth at RW... but it may just be too early for that kind of deal.

Calgary and Ottawa do not make great trading partners. While it would be cool to see Matthew and Brady on the same line, the cost to acquire Matthew is just too high and as seen by some of the comments, Ottawa won't be parting with anything of value for the Flames.

Calgary potentially trading Johnny hockey is pretty asinine as it stands.

Multiple teams need makeovers.

No team needs Matthew more than the Leafs.

If you are the flames would you take Marner even up for Matthew or would you want a sweetener added into the deal?
- spatso

Neither fan base would want to see their guy go but I think we'd all be happy with the results. I think Toronto would drop out if Calgary asked for more. Ultimately, skill vs grit and cost savings balances the trade out.

Also, it would be really fun to see the Ottawa Toronto rivalry healthy again with the Tkachuk brothers going at each other.

The 5th first round pick
Balcer
Logan Brown

For Mathew Tkachuk

5th overall pick and Drake Batherson.