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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Aug 25 @ 11:49 AM ET
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
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Sounds like a 1st and cap space is part of return for the Leafs.

- nyrangers2


I love Kap. I would be furious if they traded their 1st for him straight up.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 25 @ 11:50 AM ET
Lindgren is their #2 D prospect isn’t he?

Sounds like this might be a big trade.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 25 @ 11:51 AM ET
Ok so using the 15th for Kapanen is a bit underwhelming, but if we’re being realistic, guys like Domi were probably never in the cards. Sounds like Toronto isn’t taking cap back, and I’m not a huge fan of putting ourselves in a position where we’re over the cap, so I’m a bit skeptical here. JR has put himself in bad positions before and doesn’t have the best track record of bailing himself out.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Aug 25 @ 11:53 AM ET
Lindgren is their #2 D prospect isn’t he?

Sounds like this might be a big trade.

- 10inchTerror


Thats Liljegren. I'd love to get him but Lindgren I think is a disappointment so far. 23 so not really a prospect anymore.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 25 @ 11:55 AM ET
Thats Liljegren. I'd love to get him but Lindgren I think is a disappointment so far. 23 so not really a prospect anymore.
- MacPatty


Ah. I see. So basically this is going to be crap and first for crap and kap. Doesn’t seem like a good trade at all
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 25 @ 11:58 AM ET
I love Kap. I would be furious if they traded their 1st for him straight up.
- MacPatty



MurphysLaw74
@MurphysLaw74
Also hearing #LetsGoPens prospect Filip Hallander is headed to #LeafsForever in this trade.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 25 @ 11:59 AM ET
MurphysLaw74
@MurphysLaw74
Also hearing #LetsGoPens prospect Filip Hallander is headed to #LeafsForever in this trade.

- nyrangers2

A first and Hallander is absurd. I’m out of this is just Kapanen.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 25 @ 11:59 AM ET
MurphysLaw74
@MurphysLaw74
Also hearing #LetsGoPens prospect Filip Hallander is headed to #LeafsForever in this trade.

- nyrangers2


Looks like full trade:

Rob Rossi
@Real_RobRossi
Details for Penguins:
RW Kasperi Kapanen
D Jesper Lindgren
LW Pontus Aberg

Maples Leafs getting:
2020 Rd 1 pick (15 overall)
LW Evan Rodrigues
C Filip Hallander
D David Warsofsky
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 25 @ 11:59 AM ET
MurphysLaw74
@MurphysLaw74
Also hearing #LetsGoPens prospect Filip Hallander is headed to #LeafsForever in this trade.

- nyrangers2


Every post you make gets worse and worse. I’m sure he’s no stud but if lindgren is a disappointment already at least hallander hasn’t proven that yet.
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

Aug 25 @ 12:00 PM ET
Kinda sorta. The Pens currently have a little over $12M free. What we don't know is what RFAs they will re-sign and for how much. Plus, you can already knock that down to $11M considering DeSmith will be back up.

Murray, Rod, McCann, Simon, Lafferty. They obviously don't take up $11M lol, but that could wind up eating up a good $7/$8ish M.

- Rinosaur


Very true, but i think we have to go after the big name D-man first, then worry about re-signing the others.

Also, there is a chance that Murray doesn't return at all either, which is another 3.75.
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Aug 25 @ 12:00 PM ET
Looks like full trade:

Rob Rossi
@Real_RobRossi
Details for Penguins:
RW Kasperi Kapanen
D Jesper Lindgren
LW Pontus Aberg

Maples Leafs getting:
2020 Rd 1 pick (15 overall)
LW Evan Rodrigues
C Filip Hallander
D David Warsofsky

- nyrangers2

Wow I am not a fan of this trade at all!!! Well JR is doing his best to sink next season and thereafter
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 25 @ 12:00 PM ET
Looks like full trade:

Rob Rossi
@Real_RobRossi
Details for Penguins:
RW Kasperi Kapanen
D Jesper Lindgren
LW Pontus Aberg

Maples Leafs getting:
2020 Rd 1 pick (15 overall)
LW Evan Rodrigues
C Filip Hallander
D David Warsofsky

- nyrangers2


Dont like it.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 25 @ 12:01 PM ET
Looks like full trade:

Rob Rossi
@Real_RobRossi
Details for Penguins:
RW Kasperi Kapanen
D Jesper Lindgren
LW Pontus Aberg

Maples Leafs getting:
2020 Rd 1 pick (15 overall)
LW Evan Rodrigues
C Filip Hallander
D David Warsofsky

- nyrangers2



What the (frank)?
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 25 @ 12:02 PM ET
Wow I am not a fan of this trade at all!!! Well JR is doing his best to sink next season and thereafter
- iworkatinitech


There legit needs to be a petition to get rid of him sent to Mario and Burkle.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 25 @ 12:02 PM ET
What the (frank)?
- 10inchTerror


Confirmed:

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
This is the full deal, source confirms as well. Leafs didn't have a first round pick (Marleau deal with Carolina). Now they've got one.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 25 @ 12:03 PM ET
Pens get the best player in the trade....but....I still dont like it.
JLT168
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PGH, PA
Joined: 07.09.2012

Aug 25 @ 12:03 PM ET
whens the last time we actually had a first round pick? pouliot?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 25 @ 12:03 PM ET
Looks like full trade:

Rob Rossi
@Real_RobRossi
Details for Penguins:
RW Kasperi Kapanen
D Jesper Lindgren
LW Pontus Aberg

Maples Leafs getting:
2020 Rd 1 pick (15 overall)
LW Evan Rodrigues
C Filip Hallander
D David Warsofsky

- nyrangers2

I wanted Kapanen and this is (frank)ing boosh. Does JR ever even try to shop around or does he just say “I want this guy, name your price.” every damn time? It was absolutely imperative we used the 1st, Hallander, McCann, and Hornqvist wisely to plug multiple holes, and we used probably the two most valuable of them on one hole. Good (frank)ing job Jim. I’m looking forward to your postmortem press conference next Season where you are just completely dumbfounded about what possibly went wrong.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Aug 25 @ 12:04 PM ET
Looks like full trade:

Rob Rossi
@Real_RobRossi
Details for Penguins:
RW Kasperi Kapanen
D Jesper Lindgren
LW Pontus Aberg

Maples Leafs getting:
2020 Rd 1 pick (15 overall)
LW Evan Rodrigues
C Filip Hallander
D David Warsofsky

- nyrangers2


Unless he has a trade with Montreal for Domi backing onto this, it is really bad.

I'd rather have the 1st over Kap.
I'd rather have Hallander over Lindgren.
Id rather have Rod over Aberg.

My mind can't comprehend this at the moment.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 25 @ 12:07 PM ET
I wanted Kapanen and this is (frank)ing boosh. Does JR ever even try to shop around or does he just say “I want this guy, name your price.” every damn time? It was absolutely imperative we used the 1st, Hallander, McCann, and Hornqvist wisely to plug multiple holes, and we used probably the two most valuable of them on one hole. Good (frank)ing job Jim. I’m looking forward to your postmortem press conference next Season where you are just completely dumbfounded about what possibly went wrong.
- Victoro311


This goes back to the owners now. There has to be some point they step in. It’s like he is purposefully destroying the team one move at a time. Thankfully Sid and geno have nmc otherwise he would prob trade them.
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Aug 25 @ 12:07 PM ET
Guess I need to find something else to watch now on draft day...sheesh
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Aug 25 @ 12:07 PM ET
Dont like the trade.

Rutherford traded an overvalued 1st round pick, as I said yesterday, that is a good strategy. Getting a 24 year old is a year or two old than what wouldve been ideal, but the basis of it still makes sense.

What I dont like is that he didnt wait at all to guage the value of the pick. 8 teams in the league cannot trade right now. Why make a trade when only a fraction of the teams can trade? Kapanen wasnt going anywhere.

Kapanen is a fine player, best player in the deal. Maybe that 1st pick hits, maybe it is a total bust. We wont know for a while.

But I still dont like the overall premise of the deal. Hard to explain why. I feel we could've done better. We didnt clear cap space and I would imagine this ends McCann's time here, unless they move him to center which doesnt sound like it based on Rutherford's interview last week. Unless they plan on trading Horny, which i would be 100% on board with then.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Aug 25 @ 12:08 PM ET
whens the last time we actually had a first round pick? pouliot?
- JLT168

Poulin.
bsw31usa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lindbergh31RIP!!!, PA
Joined: 01.12.2016

Aug 25 @ 12:09 PM ET
wow GREAT trade for Toronto! With the cap staying flat for AT LEAST two years, high picks and prospects are even more valuable
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Aug 25 @ 12:10 PM ET
I wanted Kapanen and this is (frank)ing boosh. Does JR ever even try to shop around or does he just say “I want this guy, name your price.” every damn time? It was absolutely imperative we used the 1st, Hallander, McCann, and Hornqvist wisely to plug multiple holes, and we used probably the two most valuable of them on one hole. Good (frank)ing job Jim. I’m looking forward to your postmortem press conference next Season where you are just completely dumbfounded about what possibly went wrong.
- Victoro311

Your last sentence is exactly where my mind went.
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