I read that Montreal's GM really likes Taylor Hall and wants to take a shot at signing him this offseason. If that happens, that will almost certainly end Max Domi's time in Montreal.

I think Domi could be a good 3rd line center for us. The money is the problem.

If you find a way to get a guy like Domi and a guy like Bertuzzi from Detroit, the team became a lot harder to play against.

One of the interesting things that Rutherford kinda hinted at on his interview with Madden was that he thinks Maniscalco could compete for a spot this season. He didnt directly say it nor did he compare him to Marino like Madden was trying to get him to do, but he seemed he would have a shot.

I think POJ and Maniscalco both play the right side so this may not work, but if we could get our bottom pairing from Schultz and Johnson and its $9M cap hit to Maniscalco/POJ making entry level contracts... that would be huge.

Saw an interesting trade proposal.

Minnesota
Hornqvist and Murray

Pittsburgh
Zuccarello (with money retained) and Greenway

Not sure we would want Zuc due to his age, but it does seem interesting. Zuc I could see being a good RW option on the top line and I think he would fit well with Sid and Guentzel. Greenway is a great replacement for Hornqvist is big, tough, and still is very young with the potential to get better. Doesn't really help our d, but if we resigned McCann and E-Rod would probably make a solid forward group.

I read that Montreal's GM really likes Taylor Hall and wants to take a shot at signing him this offseason. If that happens, that will almost certainly end Max Domi's time in Montreal.

I think Domi could be a good 3rd line center for us. The money is the problem.

If you find a way to get a guy like Domi and a guy like Bertuzzi from Detroit, the team became a lot harder to play against.

One of the interesting things that Rutherford kinda hinted at on his interview with Madden was that he thinks Maniscalco could compete for a spot this season. He didnt directly say it nor did he compare him to Marino like Madden was trying to get him to do, but he seemed he would have a shot.

I think POJ and Maniscalco both play the right side so this may not work, but if we could get our bottom pairing from Schultz and Johnson and its $9M cap hit to Maniscalco/POJ making entry level contracts... that would be huge.
- SuperHenderson13

POJ plays the left and all Maniscalco would have to do is beat out Ruh for 3RD which shouldn't be too hard. I used to like Ruh but lately he doesn't seem like someone I want to be a starter for any length of time. I don't think we have any other RDs - Trotman and Reilly as far as I know.

I agree with that. 15 overall gets us a higher level prospect than all the 1sts we've traded away and should only be moved if a truly impactful opportunity is available.
- Tojo.

Henrique?

Saw an interesting trade proposal.

Minnesota
Hornqvist and Murray

Pittsburgh
Zuccarello (with money retained) and Greenway

Not sure we would want Zuc due to his age, but it does seem interesting. Zuc I could see being a good RW option on the top line and I think he would fit well with Sid and Guentzel. Greenway is a great replacement for Hornqvist is big, tough, and still is very young with the potential to get better. Doesn't really help our d, but if we resigned McCann and E-Rod would probably make a solid forward group.
- 123Kid

The value seems about even but I have no idea why MIN would want Horny and why they would want to give up Greenway. Also, I think Zucc is more of a LW and is also a left shot. As much as I like Horny, I would probably do this trade.

Well, MTL loses the series 4-2. Not a good look for the Pens.

I read that Montreal's GM really likes Taylor Hall and wants to take a shot at signing him this offseason. If that happens, that will almost certainly end Max Domi's time in Montreal.

I think Domi could be a good 3rd line center for us. The money is the problem.

If you find a way to get a guy like Domi and a guy like Bertuzzi from Detroit, the team became a lot harder to play against.

One of the interesting things that Rutherford kinda hinted at on his interview with Madden was that he thinks Maniscalco could compete for a spot this season. He didnt directly say it nor did he compare him to Marino like Madden was trying to get him to do, but he seemed he would have a shot.

I think POJ and Maniscalco both play the right side so this may not work, but if we could get our bottom pairing from Schultz and Johnson and its $9M cap hit to Maniscalco/POJ making entry level contracts... that would be huge.
- SuperHenderson13

Why would signing Hall end Domi's time in Montreal?

Why would signing Hall end Domi's time in Montreal?
- 668710

I'm guessing money/cap constraints.

The value seems about even but I have no idea why MIN would want Horny and why they would want to give up Greenway. Also, I think Zucc is more of a LW and is also a left shot. As much as I like Horny, I would probably do this trade.
- Hockey66

Zucc is a RW with a left shot. Always has been. Guess the thought of Billy G. Wanting some players he is familiar with I would assume. Plus I think it is more so Zucc had a horrible season with Minnesota and a similar contract to Hornqvist so I think it is more to make it work out. Especially with a lot of people outside of our fan base believing Hornqvist is in the dog house (which I also agree with). Much like you, I feel the trade is pretty even.

I'm guessing money/cap constraints.
- Hockey66

I hope so, because I'd love for us to take a run at getting him. I'm pretty sure we would be kissing our #15 goodbye though.

Zucc is a RW with a left shot. Always has been. Guess the thought of Billy G. Wanting some players he is familiar with I would assume. Plus I think it is more so Zucc had a horrible season with Minnesota and a similar contract to Hornqvist so I think it is more to make it work out. Especially with a lot of people outside of our fan base believing Hornqvist is in the dog house (which I also agree with). Much like you, I feel the trade is pretty even.
- 123Kid

Ok, that makes sense for us then. But I still don't see it from MIN's angle, especially if they are retaining money. I guess they still consider themselves contenders and are postponing the rebuild. Maybe they are giving it one last hurrah because they are getting really old (4 of their core is 35+).

I hope so, because I'd love for us to take a run at getting him. I'm pretty sure we would be kissing our #15 goodbye though.
- 668710

Likewise. I'd be fine giving up the #15 for him. After all, he was drafted 12th overall and has lived up to his billing. We'd probably have to add something else.

Canucks about to close out the defending champs.

Likewise. I'd be fine giving up the #15 for him. After all, he was drafted 12th overall and has lived up to his billing. We'd probably have to add something else.
- Hockey66

Yea I'm ok with #15 going for him too, but yea we'd probably have to add. Maybe we make JJ change his name then we trade him lol

Canucks about to close out the defending champs.
- Hockey66

Yea they definitely are. That third goal they had was a slick all star type passing sequence for a goal haha

I agree with that. 15 overall gets us a higher level prospect than all the 1sts we've traded away and should only be moved if a truly impactful opportunity is available.
- Tojo.

In my opinion, you only move the pick if you are trading for a guy under 24 and under team control for another season or two.

There's actually a good draft strategy to trade 1st picks for young NHL players. The odds of getting a NHL player in the 1st round outside of the top 5 are relatively low. Yet a lot of teams overvalue 1st round picks. Trading a 1st pick for a young NHL player means you likely trade some potential upside but minimize the risk the asset never makes it to the NHL.

Why would signing Hall end Domi's time in Montreal?
- 668710

Domi is already on the edges given the depth they have at center. Signing Hall means they could probably get Domi a contract for a year or two until some of their younger players come up for a new contract.

So I guess it wouldnt technically force them to move him, but I would imagine that makes his end in Montreal more likely in the next season or two.

I read that Montreal's GM really likes Taylor Hall and wants to take a shot at signing him this offseason. If that happens, that will almost certainly end Max Domi's time in Montreal.

I think Domi could be a good 3rd line center for us. The money is the problem.

If you find a way to get a guy like Domi and a guy like Bertuzzi from Detroit, the team became a lot harder to play against.

One of the interesting things that Rutherford kinda hinted at on his interview with Madden was that he thinks Maniscalco could compete for a spot this season. He didnt directly say it nor did he compare him to Marino like Madden was trying to get him to do, but he seemed he would have a shot.

I think POJ and Maniscalco both play the right side so this may not work, but if we could get our bottom pairing from Schultz and Johnson and its $9M cap hit to Maniscalco/POJ making entry level contracts... that would be huge.
- SuperHenderson13

You aren’t getting Bertuzzi

In my opinion, you only move the pick if you are trading for a guy under 24 and under team control for another season or two.

There's actually a good draft strategy to trade 1st picks for young NHL players. The odds of getting a NHL player in the 1st round outside of the top 5 are relatively low. Yet a lot of teams overvalue 1st round picks. Trading a 1st pick for a young NHL player means you likely trade some potential upside but minimize the risk the asset never makes it to the NHL.
- SuperHenderson13

I agree with this.

Well, MTL loses the series 4-2. Not a good look for the Pens.
- Hockey66

to be fair, they fought really damn hard. Montreal was a tough out, and Price was back to classic Price

to be fair, they fought really damn hard. Montreal was a tough out, and Price was back to classic Price
- Hesh_

Yeah, they're a good team and put up a good, respectable fight. But Philly was clearly the better team. And MTL was clearly better than the Pens. That's not good (for us). I think we may have been the worst postseason team in the East.

Habs have plenty of cap space to pursue a top free agent without shedding salary. 18M in cap space and actually salary is 10M more than that with Domi the only expensive RFA. Remember they sent an offer sheet to Aho then never used that money.

If they did want to trade Domi, it might be a hockey trade instead of futures. They have said they want to make a push while Price and Weber are still playing at a high level and this run probably encourages that. Besides, why trade a top asset for 15 when you have 16?

Domi is a great target, but if he's available (he was a top 6 wing against Philly) we might need a different trade idea to beat the teams who need a 2C.

A more defensive-minded 3C doesn't necessarily mean more defensive-minded third line. It all depends on the dynamic of the entire line.
- Rinosaur

Wonder if he targets Joel Eriksson Ek from the Wild. He hasn't lived up to his 1st round expectations, but he is a good defensive center who plays hard every shift. Someone who I feel can spark a good 3rd line player for us.

Or we could always sign Derek Grant to a contract to be our 3rd line center. He was solid except Sullivan kinda screwed him.

Wonder if he targets Joel Eriksson Ek from the Wild. He hasn't lived up to his 1st round expectations, but he is a good defensive center who plays hard every shift. Someone who I feel can spark a good 3rd line player for us.

Or we could always sign Derek Grant to a contract to be our 3rd line center. He was solid except Sullivan kinda screwed him.
- 123Kid

I’d be concerned about Grant playing in the top 9. His goal totals look good on paper but he’s also benefitted from super high shooting percentages in small sample sizes. I would not expect him to shoot at 17% in another season. I think he does have a scoring touch that is NHL 4th line worthy, though.

With our 4th line eating shut down minutes, I really think our 3rd line needs to be offensive in focus. If we go with a traditional 3rd line, and then also have a shut down 4th line that doesn't score at all, we're going to have a real problem putting up tangible offense.
- Victoro311

100% That quote from the old man only leads me to think he’s completely unsure of where the team failed.