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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 25 @ 6:03 PM ET
How many Calgary games do you watch a year?

Taking Calgary fans word that Monahan is garbage is a bad idea. There are Sabres fans that think Eichel is also bad so......

- ImThatGuy


I watch a lot Because of Johnny hockey and tk
Buffalo is basically getting another passenger in Monahan where Johnny hockey made him

Sam for Monahan would be equal
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 25 @ 6:04 PM ET
Good post, have asked the same.

Pretty unique situation, but I brought the same up to a CAL fan on Twitter. He said that it was more of a product of him scoring 30+ goals while having more d-zone than o-zone starts. Additionally, things like his takeaway to giveaway ratio were crazy.

CAL has steadily moved him to more of an offensive player, upping his o-zone starts (10% swing). And he's never been able to repeat that takeaway ratio, his block totals or his lofty DPS%. To put it in perspective, he had twice the blocks, takeaways (about 30% better ratio roughly) and twice as good of a DPS score.

So yeah, he either has gotten worse or, more likely, he wasn't ever amazing defensively but scored goals in a defensive role that year.

- RhinoFan

Tomas Plekanec got more votes that year from hab writers


and Pleks never played D



nothing burger
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 25 @ 6:05 PM ET
If it was in a vacuum sure. But there are few centers available and many teams wanting to get Monahan.

Kapanen cost the 15th + a decent prospect. Monahan is going to cost you 8 there is no way around it IMO.

Monahan for 8
Risto for Nylander
Mitts and and 2021 2nd for Danault.

VO-Eichel-Reinhart
Nylander-Monahan-Danault
Kahun-Cozens-Johansson
Line 4

- ImThatGuy


Why Are you trading for Monahan when you have danault lol
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Aug 25 @ 6:06 PM ET
I watch a lot Because of Johnny hockey and tk
Buffalo is basically getting another passenger in Monahan where Johnny hockey made him

Sam for Monahan would be equal

- gerbe75pts


Trade Risto for a 2nd
Reinhart for a 1st
Montour for a 2nd
Might as well try to trade Johansson for a 3rd

Draft all the players we should get at least 356 superstars from all those draft picks.

Besides we have Eichel anyone can play in this team and they’ll be good.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Aug 25 @ 6:06 PM ET
Why Are you trading for Monahan when you have danault lol
- gerbe75pts


Because you’re allowed to have more than 1 good player?

Why trade for anyone, we have Eichel.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 25 @ 6:07 PM ET
Because you’re allowed to have more than 1 good player?

Why trade for anyone, we have Eichel.

- ImThatGuy



you already have your center then lol .. Why overpay for Sean
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 25 @ 6:08 PM ET
Here is a side by side comparison of Danault and Monahan.

https://twitter.com/mark_.../1298377800689373186?s=21

- Pegullaville


Everything’s wrapped in the cost. What do each cost
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 25 @ 6:08 PM ET
Monahan had 19 pts in votes in Selke voting as a 20 year old, and ROR was only 5 or 6 spots above him that year. Not bad, our cerebral winger hasn't hit the top 20 yet. Buffalo writers, Calgary writers, Vancouver or not.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 25 @ 6:09 PM ET
I really want nothing to do with Sean monahan unless its for Sam 1 for 1
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 25 @ 6:10 PM ET
Monahan had 19 pts in votes in Selke voting as a 20 year old, and ROR was only 5 or 6 spots above him that year. Not bad, our cerebral winger hasn't hit the top 20 yet. Buffalo writers, Calgary writers, Vancouver or not.
- GilPerreault11


5 years later He forgot how to play defense
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Aug 25 @ 6:10 PM ET
I really want nothing to do with Sean monahan unless its for Sam 1 for 1
- gerbe75pts


Rearranging deck chairs on the titanic.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 25 @ 6:11 PM ET
I really want nothing to do with Sean monahan unless its for Sam 1 for 1
- gerbe75pts


Not sure Calgary will pay 7 mil for a cerebral winger
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Aug 25 @ 6:12 PM ET
you already have your center then lol .. Why overpay for Sean
- gerbe75pts


Are you dumb or do you just not read?

Either way I’ll type it in all caps.

“YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE GOOD PLAYER”
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 25 @ 6:15 PM ET
Are you dumb or do you just not read?

Either way I’ll type it in all caps.

“YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE GOOD PLAYER”

- ImThatGuy


Yes but why would you overpay for Sean monahan when you already have a second line center that means you don't need to give up the 8th overall pick what aren't you understanding
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 25 @ 6:17 PM ET
Not sure Calgary will pay 7 mil for a cerebral winger
- GilPerreault11


The question is do they have a right Winger

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 25 @ 6:19 PM ET
Send a 4th for Backlund and let's go
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 25 @ 6:44 PM ET
Because you’re allowed to have more than 1 good player?

Why trade for anyone, we have Eichel.

- ImThatGuy

yet if ror doesn't say in the post game he lost his love for the game

housley is still the coach
botts is still the gm

and we make the playoff last year and this year


Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 25 @ 6:46 PM ET
If the playoffs are any indication, it leads you to playing golf with the Sabres after playing a few extra games.

The teams that can defend go far.

A second line of Skinner and Monahan would be the inverse of the LOG line.

We’d have to win games 6-5

- Pegullaville

wadr, i'd like to get in the playoffs first
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 25 @ 6:48 PM ET
wadr, i'd like to get in the playoffs first
- Michael Pachla

I think a 4th line of cj smith, asplund and oglevie could be a damn good 4th line at a fraction of the price


if they could find a way to trade okposo
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 25 @ 6:52 PM ET
I think a 4th line of cj smith, asplund and oglevie could be a damn good 4th line at a fraction of the price


if they could find a way to trade okposo

- homiedclown

wouldn't mind it...would like an nhl vet on at least one side of asplund...i think it would go a long way in helping him develop
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 25 @ 6:57 PM ET
olofsson-eichel-reinhart
skinner-cozens-tage
kahun-casey-johansson
smith-asplund-okposo
lazar


dahlin-miller
mccabe-joker
bryson-borgen
gilmour-nelson


ullmark
hutton


olofsson 3.5 mil per
reinhart 6 mil per
kahun 3 mil per
lazar 1 mil
gilmour 1 mil
nelson 1 mil
ullmark 2.8 mil


does that get us to the cap floor?




Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 25 @ 6:58 PM ET
Pair in a defensive forward and I think that line could be really nice.
- TheSabresTaco

Jesper Fast
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 25 @ 6:59 PM ET
wouldn't mind it...would like an nhl vet on at least one side of asplund...i think it would go a long way in helping him develop
- Michael Pachla

it would be more of an 8 to 10 minute a night line


perfect world your third line then would have fast, soderberg and either kahun or johansson
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 25 @ 6:59 PM ET
Jesper Fast
- Buff36

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 25 @ 7:00 PM ET
If it was in a vacuum sure. But there are few centers available and many teams wanting to get Monahan.

Kapanen cost the 15th + a decent prospect. Monahan is going to cost you 8 there is no way around it IMO.

Monahan for 8
Risto for Nylander
Mitts and and 2021 2nd for Danault.

VO-Eichel-Reinhart
Nylander-Monahan-Danault
Kahun-Cozens-Johansson
Line 4

Edit just realized I forgot Skinner. He’s that much out of my mind right now.

Let’s try this.
Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Nylander-Monahan-Danault
Kahun-Cozens-Johansson
VO-xxx-Okposo

- ImThatGuy


How are you paying for that Cap?
That's like $60m in F's alone!
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