Mitts + 8th

Or

Risto + the 8th

I don’t mind the Risto one
- Sabretooth9

Flames were one of the teams that have asked about Montour, I don't think Risto is going to be moved, THE RALPH likes him but I think Risto may have had enough here.

I’m tired of losing trades.

Monahan helps tomorrow, however the 8th overall pick most likely gives you a similar quality player with much more team control

In a few years from now we are sitting here crying about Monahan and how he’s a passenger and useless defensively when Rossi/Holtz/Lundell/Perfetti are lighting it up in Calgary.
- Pegullaville

Just like Mitts, Just like Risto, Just like Zadorov, Just like Nylander.

Blah blah blah.

Anyone of those guys can turn out to be "meh" players.

Monahan is a known commodity.

Flames would rather move Gaudreau instead of Monahan. Centers like him are hard to come by.

Apparently his own fan base agrees


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Johnny is not a superstar like mcdavid or McKinnon. He is the next tier. But he carried 2 mediocre 40 pt guys to point per game career years. Good luck getting equal value for him. What they really need is top line players to play and share the load with him.... Monahan and Lindholm got outplayed by a plug like Reider... what a joke.
and it's not the first time.

Monahan was on pace for 50 without Gaudreau,


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- gerbe75pts

SO Jeff SKinner again, needs to play with other good players to be good.

Monahan is paired with Skinner would be what?

Just like Mitts, Just like Risto, Just like Zadorov, Just like Nylander.

Blah blah blah.

Anyone of those guys can turn out to be "meh" players.

Monahan is a known commodity.
- ImThatGuy

Is a meh

SO Jeff SKinner again, needs to play with other good players to be good.

Monahan is paired with Skinner would be what?
- ImThatGuy

Would be horrible

Just like Mitts, Just like Risto, Just like Zadorov, Just like Nylander.

Blah blah blah.

Anyone of those guys can turn out to be "meh" players.

Monahan is a known commodity.
- ImThatGuy

I’m not saying not to trade for Monahan, I’m just saying if the 8th OA pick is included we will lose the deal, but what else is new

I’m tired of losing trades.

Monahan helps tomorrow, however the 8th overall pick most likely gives you a similar quality player with much more team control

In a few years from now we are sitting here crying about Monahan and how he’s a passenger and useless defensively when Rossi/Holtz/Lundell/Perfetti are lighting it up in Calgary.
- Pegullaville

Let's see what you attitude is like when Eichel wants out after next season if this team doesn't improve...... FAST.

The Robin trade all over again do not trade the pick

Just like Mitts, Just like Risto, Just like Zadorov, Just like Nylander.

Blah blah blah.

Anyone of those guys can turn out to be "meh" players.

Monahan is a known commodity.
- ImThatGuy

Exactly!

Everyone's been b!tching we need a 2c for the last couple of years!

If Monahan is available snatch him up!

I posted last page, they are talking with the Flames for Monahan and the 8th is involved also.
- SABRES 89

Thanks for the info.

Any other names being discussed?

I dont care trade casey,Ristolainen .. don't trade the 8th

Is a meh
- gerbe75pts

Your points are so filled with context and stats to back it up.

Exactly!

Everyone's been b!tching we need a 2c for the last couple of years!

If Monahan is available snatch him up!
- sgk56

We will lose the deal instantly if we give up the 8th overall pick

Sure, but who was his wingers when they were winning cups. Think hot dog Phil. Good players matter. Period
- SDSabre

I found the following when looking at line combinations from the last 2 cup winning Penguins teams, 2015-2016 and 2016-2017, to see who Phil the Thrill played with the most at even strength:

2015-2016
1. Malkin 50%
2. Hagelin 30%
3. Perron 22%
4. Kunitz 17%
5. Bonino 15%
6. Crosby 12%

2016-2017
1. Bonino 41%
2. Malkin 35%
3. Hagelin 31%
4. Kunitz 23%
5. Cullen 11%
6. Guentzel 7%
7. Scott Wilson 5%
8. Bryan Rust 3%
9. Hornqvist 3%
10. Crosby 2.75%

Sure looks like Phil the Thrill was not on Crosby's line during the 2015-2016 or 2016-2017 seasons, and he barely played with him at all during the 2016-2017 season.

Would be horrible
- gerbe75pts

But why?

hey 39, can you pull up 2 comparables for Reinhart's most likely contract?
- TheSabresTaco

What/who are you looking for?

Your points are so filled with context and stats to back it up.
- ImThatGuy

What are his stats with and without Johnny hockey

And please post his defensive statistics too

He had a disappointing season this year, but he averages over 60pts a year. Then go out and get Jesper Fast and put him at RW.
- Buff36

Now we're talking

Thanks for the info.

Any other names being discussed?
- Powerslave

Not yet, at least I didn't hear them yet. I'm sure a D man or 2 they will need that. Like I said, there must be more to this if the 8th is involved.

The Robin trade all over again do not trade the pick
- gerbe75pts

Not even close.

Lehner was an unproven goalie.

But why?
- ImThatGuy

Because of the 8th overall pick

Kessel played PP with Crosby, but generally played 3rd line winger for Pittsburgh.
- turbo044

Confirmed per what I provided a few minutes ago.

Not even close.

Lehner was an unproven goalie.
- ImThatGuy

I'm talking about the 1st round pick

Not yet, at least I didn't hear them yet. I'm sure a D man or 2 they will need that. Like I said, there must be more to this if the 8th is involved.
- SABRES 89

Hopefully it’s for both Gaudreau and Monahan if we are moving 8