Mrazek and Pesce for Andersen and Kapanen
- Steven_Seagull

I mean yes but not sure we can afford it

In his seven playoffs he's played in he has been well below league average in GSAA in four of them. The two times he was above the average for the Leafs, the last two years, he has a propensity to allow bad goals at really bad times. For example, you could have a .925 save% for a game, but if you let a goal in from the corner or a really bad angle with 5 mins to go to lose the game, the saves you made before that one become meaningless. It's a tough position. But playing for the Laughs doesn't help him either of course.
- aminnes

that goal was bad. no excuse for not saving it.

but the line change that lead up to the goal was worse. that's on the whole team and coaching staff. inexcusable at the point in the game to have a mental error like that.

that goal was bad no excuse for not saving it.

but the line change that lead up to the goal was worse. that's on the whole team and coaching staff. inexcusable at the point in the game to have a mental error like that.
- Tumbleweed

Yes, it was bad, but at the end of the day it was one guy on the goal line. One shot. And look, it's not the first time. The first overtime against Washington he lets in a lump wrister from the boards. He let in a non-screened point shot against Boston along the ice from just inside the blueline. He's let in several bad angel short side goals in the playoffs.

I agree the team sucks and have said since day one people should temper their expectations of Andersen because he came from a quality defensive club in anahiem at the time. A good team can win with Andersen, but he's UFA soon, and the Leafs aren't a good team. Move him.

Champs looking good

Yes, it was bad, but at the end of the day it was one guy on the goal line. One shot. And look, it's not the first time. The first overtime against Washington he lets in a lump wrister from the boards. He let in a non-screened point shot against Boston along the ice from just inside the blueline. He's let in several bad angel short side goals in the playoffs.

I agree the team sucks and have said since day one people should temper their expectations of Andersen because he came from a quality defensive club in anahiem at the time. A good team can win with Andersen, but he's UFA soon, and the Leafs aren't a good team. Move him.
- aminnes

fair. lehner looks like the only slightly realistic option for an upgrade.

otherwise, might as well trade andersen and hyman too. bring in some veterans for TDL trade-bait and re-stock for 2 years. Keep our 1sts this year and next.

Same cap hit, or gtfo
- Steven_Seagull

Yes. And probably could do it now...but doubtful after we fix the D and his record is better.

fair. lehner looks like the only slightly realistic option for an upgrade.

otherwise, might as well trade andersen and hyman too. bring in some veterans for TDL trade-bait and re-stock for 2 years. Keep our 1sts this year and next.
- Tumbleweed

I would find a platoon option. It does a lot of teams good. Go with the hot hand.

Side note: Is Fleury not the best teammate ever? He's a HOF goalie and twice now has put the team first and plays lights out when he does play during these situations.

Sad watching such a great caliber goalie be ridiculed and his accomplishments belittled.
Also an underrated leader.


Can’t believe you can watch Toskala, Raycroft, Scrivens/Reimer and Gustavsson and have the audacity to question Andersen.
The core is not enough to even get a round robin win to enter the playoffs, yet, Andersen has to be Vezina level just to go 7 games in a playoff series? And then pushed to the side after losing the last game?
And he’s someone you’re willing to send off?

Are you trying to create a new record for a core that literally never passes the first round, in some cases not even passing the round robin, because Andersen is a huge reason why many playoff series’ that have occurred actually ended up going seven games and let you guys have a chance to win?


Not even trolling just genuinely curious as to where Nylander, Marner and Tavares get a full write off meanwhile another guy who backstops you to a fifth game and plays extremely well is disrespected and taken for granted?
- optimus-reim

I agree fully with this but promise you there are a few in here that think Andersen is THE problem....some even think he's the ONLY problem.

I agree fully with this but promise you there are a few in here that think Andersen is THE problem....some even think he's the ONLY problem.

- underhill14

Leafs would have a 0.00 GAA if Andersen did his (frank)ing job.

Sad watching such a great caliber goalie be ridiculed and his accomplishments belittled.
Also an underrated leader.


Can’t believe you can watch Toskala, Raycroft, Scrivens/Reimer and Gustavsson and have the audacity to question Andersen.
The core is not enough to even get a round robin win to enter the playoffs, yet, Andersen has to be Vezina level just to go 7 games in a playoff series? And then pushed to the side after losing the last game?
And he’s someone you’re willing to send off?

Are you trying to create a new record for a core that literally never passes the first round, in some cases not even passing the round robin, because Andersen is a huge reason why many playoff series’ that have occurred actually ended up going seven games and let you guys have a chance to win?


Not even trolling just genuinely curious as to where Nylander, Marner and Tavares get a full write off meanwhile another guy who backstops you to a fifth game and plays extremely well is disrespected and taken for granted?
- optimus-reim

Reimer vs. the Bruins again tonight, it appears.

Leafs aren’t re-signing him anyway.

Three-way trade:

To Toronto: Sam Bennett, Matt Murray
To Calgary: Freddy Andersen, Dominik Simon
To Pittsburgh: Travis Dermott, CGY 2020 2nd, EDM 2020 3rd


Who says no? No one. Suck it.
- Steven_Seagull

Calgary has Rittich?

Yes, it was bad, but at the end of the day it was one guy on the goal line. One shot. And look, it's not the first time. The first overtime against Washington he lets in a lump wrister from the boards. He let in a non-screened point shot against Boston along the ice from just inside the blueline. He's let in several bad angel short side goals in the playoffs.

I agree the team sucks and have said since day one people should temper their expectations of Andersen because he came from a quality defensive club in anahiem at the time. A good team can win with Andersen, but he's UFA soon, and the Leafs aren't a good team. Move him.
- aminnes

This is great logic.

If we keep moving on from our good players because the bad players fu3k things up, we will never win a Cup again.

We finally get out of the dreaded revolving door of goalies and everyone wants to go back in?? We finally get back a solid back up to compliment Freddy and people want to fu2k that up??? You really want to trust Dubas & Co with goalie selection? See McIll vs Hutch/Sparks?!?!?!!?!?

Forwards, good at O bad at D, bad at working hard/hitting.
Defense, sucks at D, okay at O, bad at working hard/hitting.
Goalie, good to very good, steady.

Move on from the one solid spot. This is the same bullsh1t cycle we have been in for 53 years.

FIX .THE. D! Motherfu3king. Period.

Then if Freddy faulters, move him.

Jeebuz Toronto. WTF!

Leafs aren’t re-signing him anyway.

Three-way trade:

To Toronto: Sam Bennett, Matt Murray
To Calgary: Freddy Andersen, Dominik Simon
To Pittsburgh: Travis Dermott, CGY 2020 2nd, EDM 2020 3rd


Who says no? No one. Suck it.
- Steven_Seagull

The one small problem is that Murray is not a very good goalie

fair. lehner looks like the only slightly realistic option for an upgrade.

otherwise, might as well trade andersen and hyman too. bring in some veterans for TDL trade-bait and re-stock for 2 years. Keep our 1sts this year and next.
- Tumbleweed

Lose. Fu3k up the roster. Rebuild. Rinse. Repeat.


Fu3k me.

I agree fully with this but promise you there are a few in here that think Andersen is THE problem....some even think he's the ONLY problem.

- underhill14

Who? Name names.

I agree fully with this but promise you there are a few in here that think Andersen is THE problem....some even think he's the ONLY problem.

- underhill14

Some think prett much everything is THE problem

Who? Name names.
- mjones242

Don’t go all Joe McCarthy on us

Who? Name names.
- mjones242

Roger. But he doesn’t count.

The one small problem is that Murray is not a very good goalie
- Canada Cup

You try telling him that with his two Stanley Cup rings plugging his ears.

Calgary has Rittich?
- PatC80

Campbell is better than Rittich.

Leafs would have a 0.00 GAA if Andersen did his (frank)ing job.
- Steven_Seagull

Ya and if the Leafs forwards weren't soft and if the top-tier talent could score against a zamboni driver and the defense wasn't so bad they are playing Maricin and if, if, if.

Freddy is NOT the worst problem right now and your boy Dubie, dubie, doo couldn't scout goalie talent with Brodeur's eyes.

FIX.THE.D.

FIX.THE.BALL-LESS.FORWARDS.

Then worry about Freddy.

Who? Name names.
- mjones242

Just wait for it. I've laid out the bait with my comments...got pretty close at the top of the page.

Ya and if the Leafs forwards weren't soft and if the top-tier talent could score against a zamboni driver and the defense wasn't so bad they are playing Maricin and if, if, if.

Freddy is NOT the worst problem right now and your boy couldn't scout goalie talent with Brodeur's eyes.

FIX.THE.D.

FIX.THE.BALL-LESS.FORWARDS.

Then worry about Freddy.
- underhill14

Technically they did score on the zamboni driver, twice in fact.

Technically they did score on the zamboni driver, twice in fact.
- Steven_Seagull

Did they? Why do I remember they barely got a shot against???? Well they should've scored at least two more for the W then.

(I'm drunk half the time so there's that)

Did they? Why do I remember they barely got a shot against???? Well they should've scored at least two more for the W then.

(I'm drunk half the time so there's that)
- underhill14

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