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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 18 @ 11:24 AM ET
Yes, because it meant the Leafs could afford Marner
- PatC80


afford or overpay.

perspective is everything.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Aug 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
What is Hyman worth?

I don't want him to go. But I have this sneaking suspicion Dubas will package him for a defenseman over any of the big 4.

- Leafs43



I worry he won't age well. He'll be 29 at the start of his next deal.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Aug 18 @ 11:27 AM ET
Mike Augello: Offseason Decisions - Frederik Andersen
- mikeinbuffalo

let this poor bastard goπŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

just get more speed n skillz guyz who can do sick snipes n dirty dangles πŸ‘πŸΏ

they’ll just out score every one like gretz and the oilers used to do πŸ‘

i do it ALL the time on ea sports πŸ‘πŸΏ

stick with the analytics shanaplan. nobody said that this would be quick. it’s only been like 6 years Or 53 however you choose to look at it 😭

edit: what a fcucking joke πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

edit: nice alliteration πŸ‘πŸΏ
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Aug 18 @ 11:30 AM ET
let this poor bastard goπŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

just get more speed n skillz guyz who can do sick snipes n dirty dangles πŸ‘πŸΏ

they’ll just out score every one like gretz and the oilers used to do πŸ‘

i do it ALL the time on ea sports πŸ‘πŸΏ

stick with the analytics shanaplan. nobody said that this would be quick. it’s only been like 6 years Or 53 however you choose to look at it 😭

edit: what a fcucking joke πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

edit: nice alliteration πŸ‘πŸΏ

- Skalapy


is that you in your avatar pic..

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 18 @ 11:31 AM ET
let this poor bastard goπŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

just get more speed n skillz guyz who can do sick snipes n dirty dangles πŸ‘πŸΏ

they’ll just out score every one like gretz and the oilers used to do πŸ‘

i do it ALL the time on ea sports πŸ‘πŸΏ

stick with the analytics shanaplan. nobody said that this would be quick. it’s only been like 6 years Or 53 however you choose to look at it 😭

edit: what a fcucking joke πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

edit: nice alliteration πŸ‘πŸΏ

- Skalapy


yep. team is managed like it's a video game.

we keep drafting/bringing in talented but small players. yet somehow the team is getting worse.

but nothing to worry about. dubas knows all.



PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Aug 18 @ 11:31 AM ET
so we traded kadri, brown and a 1st away to overpay marner.

and then we missed the playoffs after having a worse season than the year before.

there was no rush to give marner 11m. could have signed him for 2 years and gave him the 11m ish on his next deal.

there were other options that needed to be explored. trading 1sts away than missing the playoffs is the same incompetent poop we got circa 2009.

- Tumbleweed



not to beat a dead horse or anything, but Marner would not have taken a bridge deal.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Aug 18 @ 11:33 AM ET
afford or overpay.

perspective is everything.

- Tumbleweed


In my opinion, it was an overpay
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Aug 18 @ 11:33 AM ET
yep. team is managed like it's a video game.

we keep drafting/bringing in talented but small players. yet somehow the team is getting worse.

but nothing to worry about. dubas knows all.

- Tumbleweed

boyz r gettin pointz thoπŸ‘
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Aug 18 @ 11:36 AM ET
not to beat a dead horse or anything, but Marner would not have taken a bridge deal.
- PatC80

greedy little b!tch can go (frank) himself, floater willi and their horses they rode in on😑

what a fcucking joke πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

edit: nice alliteration πŸ‘πŸΏ
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 18 @ 11:38 AM ET
not to beat a dead horse or anything, but Marner would not have taken a bridge deal.
- PatC80



dubas wasn't the guy to make it work. so that is probably right.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Aug 18 @ 11:42 AM ET
And also at the time it was 100% wrong.

Lehner couldn't make a save to save his life. Then he got his life together. Imagine that.

- GreatGigInTheSky


I worry about a guy like that being put in the Toronto fishbowl.

It might be about time we recognize that Canadian teams in general have a tough time with ridiculous over-the-top media coverage always in everyone's faces.

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Aug 18 @ 11:45 AM ET
I worry about a guy like that being put in the Toronto fishbowl.

It might be about time we recognize that Canadian teams in general have a tough time with ridiculous over-the-top media coverage always in everyone's faces.

- Aetherial


Argument really only exists in hockey. Does anyone complain about that who plays for Yankees or Red Sox? How about Lakers in basketball?

If players want to play where no one knows them so be it.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 18 @ 11:49 AM ET
it just sucks about marelau. 13th overall pick in a deep draft. we'll see what player carolina gets but that one could end up hurting big time.
- wingz4life


I think they may have traded it to the Rangers?

Unless they traded a different 1st?
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Aug 18 @ 11:52 AM ET
I think they may have traded it to the Rangers?

Unless they traded a different 1st?

- GreatGigInTheSky


They traded the worst of the two.

So theirs.

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 18 @ 11:53 AM ET
In my opinion, it was an overpay
- PatC80


and this is the point.

we dumped our 1st so we could overpay marner.

if we make the playoffs - then fine. necessary short-term move.

but we didn't.

we dumped assets after winning nothing so we could win less. i am not sure how this is in anyway defensible.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 18 @ 11:54 AM ET
I worry about a guy like that being put in the Toronto fishbowl.

It might be about time we recognize that Canadian teams in general have a tough time with ridiculous over-the-top media coverage always in everyone's faces.

- Aetherial


I think he's got a good handle on his life now, as long as he stays sober.

Clowns like Simmons might test his sobriety, though.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 18 @ 11:58 AM ET
and this is the point.

we dumped our 1st so we could overpay marner.

if we make the playoffs - then fine. necessary short-term move.

but we didn't.

we dumped assets after winning nothing so we could win less. i am not sure how this is in anyway defensible.

- Tumbleweed


Because if it was a full season they would've make the playoffs.

Even with a team devastated by injuries that didn't play even a single game this season with a full healthy lineup.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Aug 18 @ 11:59 AM ET
What is Hyman worth?

I don't want him to go. But I have this sneaking suspicion Dubas will package him for a defenseman over any of the big 4.

- Leafs43

You HAVE to keep Hyman. It's gotta be Billy Ny that goes.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Aug 18 @ 12:03 PM ET
I think they may have traded it to the Rangers?

Unless they traded a different 1st?

- GreatGigInTheSky


they traded the lower of the 2, so their own
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Aug 18 @ 12:04 PM ET
and this is the point.

we dumped our 1st so we could overpay marner.

if we make the playoffs - then fine. necessary short-term move.

but we didn't.

we dumped assets after winning nothing so we could win less. i am not sure how this is in anyway defensible.

- Tumbleweed


Just because you and I think it is an overpay, doesn't mean that Dubas does.. I have to believe that he has a plan in place and this was all part of that plan
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 18 @ 12:04 PM ET
Because if it was a full season they would've make the playoffs.

Even with a team devastated by injuries that didn't play even a single game this season with a full healthy lineup.

- GreatGigInTheSky


we were 3 points up on florida and they had a game in hand. there was no guarantee.

facts are we lost 3 out of 5 to columbus in the pre-qualifying round that was open to 24 teams and did not make the round of 16.

we were also on a 95 point pace. which was less than the prior year.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 18 @ 12:06 PM ET
Just because you and I think it is an overpay, doesn't mean that Dubas does.. I have to believe that he has a plan in place and this was all part of that plan
- PatC80


i am sure he does have a plan.

but the fact is he took a team that was on the way up and turned it into a team on the way down.

sure seems like his plan sucks ass.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 18 @ 12:06 PM ET
not to beat a dead horse or anything, but Marner would not have taken a bridge deal.
- PatC80



I was about to say something similar, we have no idea what deal he would have taken..but it didnt sound like a bridge would have gotten done before the season started.

I just refuse the form opinions and poop based on total guesses about what the Leafs could have done..when I have no idea
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Aug 18 @ 12:06 PM ET
Like I always say, if you imagine the worst outcome for the Leafs, then that is the one that will happen.

We should have a pool where Matthews ends up at the end of this contract

- Aetherial



Yesssssss! Bring back the pool format, Aeth! It's easily been the best thing since this (frank)ing pandemic made everything go to hell.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Aug 18 @ 12:07 PM ET
we were 3 points up on florida and they had a game in hand. there was no guarantee.

facts are we lost 3 out of 5 to columbus in the pre-qualifying round that was open to 24 teams and did not make the round of 16.

we were also on a 95 point pace. which was less than the prior year.

- Tumbleweed


leafs did great on social media though.
all those social awareness actions really served the community so much!!
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