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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Aug 13 @ 6:21 PM ET
Too much arrogance & entitlement. Accountability is for the captain to do & demand. JT was flowery & evasive. Reilly for captain. He’s legit & honest.
- Nighthawk

How many times did we watch JT just give the puck away? Don't care for him.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Aug 13 @ 6:21 PM ET
That is an ok trade. Would Willy buy in or be in Torts doghouse?
- Nighthawk


You would expect with Nylander in CLB he would have to play that game. He would be surrounded with players buying in. Product of the environment.

Exactly the problem in Leaf land. We have too many of those skilled/floater guys, happened the same during the Kessel era...except we have much more talent now.

You MUST surround them with heart and grit players. Then they are more compelled to play within that system. JMHO.

(Also why I'm not a fan of Dubas, seems like he thinks he can change the game of hockey to non contact skill game while other teams still actually hit and fight and grind. )

Leafs for the CUP 2050 when NHL bans contact, hard forechecking and net front shenanigans.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 13 @ 6:22 PM ET
It might have been the instant prognosis that people found ridiculous but in character
- Canada Cup



From the angle that I saw, Muzzin snapped his pencil neck.


- Dr Skalapy
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Aug 13 @ 6:22 PM ET
It’s been just as long they’ve had pooptier D too.
- Garnie


pooptier D, pooptier Goalie, better O

Better in two out of three and you win.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 13 @ 6:22 PM ET
Then put him in vs Bruins!

- Nasty_Duck

I would. second of BtoB. Marazek was sliding all over the place last night. Almost slid into he corner on the winner.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 13 @ 6:23 PM ET
Much too humble you are lol
- Nighthawk


To a fault
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 13 @ 6:23 PM ET
You would expect with Nylander in CLB he would have to play that game. He would be surrounded with players buying in. Product of the environment.

Exactly the problem in Leaf land. We have too many of those skilled/floater guys, happened the same during the Kessel era...except we have much more talent now.

You MUST surround them with heart and grit players. Then they are more compelled to play within that system. JMHO.

(Also why I'm not a fan of Dubas, seems like he thinks he can change the game of hockey to non contact skill game while other teams still actually hit and fight and grind. )

Leafs for the CUP 2050 when NHL bans contact, hard forechecking and net front shenanigans.

- underhill14



He traded for Hyman, Muzzin, and Clifford... There needs to be more of that, especially on D, but still...
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Aug 13 @ 6:24 PM ET
willy for Savard?

Are you guys insane?

- Santo_44


Why?

Could you add a bit of detail to your giggling comment.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Aug 13 @ 6:25 PM ET
Let's see when he's back full healthy again
- MaximusAurelius


"That was a stupid thing to say, I had absolutely no evidence that his career was over and shouldn't have made that prediction"

Fixed it for you.

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 13 @ 6:25 PM ET
pooptier D, pooptier Goalie, better O

Better in two out of three and you win.

- The Shrike


Well better D leads to better tending

Ask CBJ
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Aug 13 @ 6:25 PM ET
He traded for Hyman, Muzzin, and Clifford... There needs to be more of that, especially on D, but still...
- Steven_Seagull



Yes!






....Dubas lover.


aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 13 @ 6:25 PM ET
He traded for Hyman, Muzzin, and Clifford... There needs to be more of that, especially on D, but still...
- Steven_Seagull

Clifford gets so little ice time. They never put him in to protect their stars for a few shifts. They need more old school philosophy.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 13 @ 6:26 PM ET
Why?

Could you add a bit of detail to your giggling comment.

- underhill14



Savard turns 30 in October, has 1 year left, and isn’t worth Nylander.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 13 @ 6:27 PM ET
Yes!






....Dubas lover.



- underhill14



Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Aug 13 @ 6:28 PM ET
I would. second of BtoB. Marazek was sliding all over the place last night. Almost slid into he corner on the winner.
- aminnes


Even better if they load him up for a game 7.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Aug 13 @ 6:29 PM ET
Gifted to them by the NHL, just like it was gifted to Columbus and Chicago.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 13 @ 6:31 PM ET
Reilly certainly has a better perspective and along with Muzzin were the only two guys who took responsibility for the loss. We need Buff to come in and throw people's fancy fashion statement clothes in the shower.
- aminnes

They were the only 2 that weren’t clueless or selling bs.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Aug 13 @ 6:31 PM ET
Well better D leads to better tending

Ask CBJ

- Garnie


I'll take the better O over the better D 51 times out of 100. The initiatives carries with it an advantage.

Switch goalies in the series against Columbus, or the last two vs. Boston, and the Leafs win.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 13 @ 6:33 PM ET
How many times did we watch JT just give the puck away? Don't care for him.
- bobbyisno1

I wanted the Canucks to sign him. Good thing we didn’t given RFA contracts coming up. I was wrong big time. He’s overrated & winners get 11m & he is not.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Aug 13 @ 6:33 PM ET
Clifford gets so little ice time. They never put him in to protect their stars for a few shifts. They need more old school philosophy.
- aminnes


The only way to protect your star players is to go after the other teams when they go after yours. Mutually assured destruction.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 13 @ 6:33 PM ET
I'll take the better O over the better D 51 times out of 100. The initiatives carries with it an advantage.

Switch goalies in the series against Columbus, or the last two vs. Boston, and the Leafs win.

- The Shrike


I doubt it, maybe, we may have had more shots on net but very few of quality. We did get some bad luck like the JT post but for the most we made it easy for their tender.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 13 @ 6:35 PM ET
You would expect with Nylander in CLB he would have to play that game. He would be surrounded with players buying in. Product of the environment.

Exactly the problem in Leaf land. We have too many of those skilled/floater guys, happened the same during the Kessel era...except we have much more talent now.

You MUST surround them with heart and grit players. Then they are more compelled to play within that system. JMHO.

(Also why I'm not a fan of Dubas, seems like he thinks he can change the game of hockey to non contact skill game while other teams still actually hit and fight and grind. )

Leafs for the CUP 2050 when NHL bans contact, hard forechecking and net front shenanigans.

- underhill14

Good post. Leafs are coach killers. Never liked Babcock but he was right to win you gotta play the right way. It cost him his job. Keefe looked frustrated the same message doesn't sink in. That goes onto JT not being a true leader as captain. Some others hide behind that also.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 13 @ 6:36 PM ET
Why?

Could you add a bit of detail to your giggling comment.

- underhill14

He is 30 years old and is a UFA after this year.

2nd pairing d man.

Do I need to explain why you don't trade a 24 year 1st line winger old locked up long term for that?
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Aug 13 @ 6:36 PM ET
I doubt it, maybe, we may have had more shots on net but very few of quality. We did get some bad luck like the JT post but for the most we made it easy for their tender.
- Garnie

You were a Bernier wife weren't you.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 13 @ 6:36 PM ET
To a fault
- Canada Cup

Ooh I take that back lol
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