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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Aug 13 @ 3:59 PM ET
Interesting no comments about Freddie or the goaltending or any of that...

I’m watching Columbus give Tampa all they want..

Could it be that just solid defense and goaltending beats offensive talent in the playoffs..

And that perhaps you can’t just outscore your issues like you could in the 80s???

- dozerD10

Wait a sec here, are you saying there's a game on....
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Aug 13 @ 4:00 PM ET
Interesting no comments about Freddie or the goaltending or any of that...

I’m watching Columbus give Tampa all they want..

Could it be that just solid defense and goaltending beats offensive talent in the playoffs..

And that perhaps you can’t just outscore your issues like you could in the 80s???

- dozerD10

Also, eff Columbus and Tampa.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Aug 13 @ 4:00 PM ET
Interesting no comments about Freddie or the goaltending or any of that...

I’m watching Columbus give Tampa all they want..

Could it be that just solid defense and goaltending beats offensive talent in the playoffs..

And that perhaps you can’t just outscore your issues like you could in the 80s???

- dozerD10

And eff any team who loses to Boston.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 13 @ 4:02 PM ET
Interesting no comments about Freddie or the goaltending or any of that...

I’m watching Columbus give Tampa all they want..

Could it be that just solid defense and goaltending beats offensive talent in the playoffs..

And that perhaps you can’t just outscore your issues like you could in the 80s???

- dozerD10



What could you say? we hope we can trade him?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 13 @ 4:12 PM ET
Shanny needs to go find some players that played like he did. From a physical,size perspective is what I mean. Would help if they could score too!
- wingz4life

Player's don't play like Shanny anymore, or like Iggy. The Tkachuk's are probably the closest in comparison, and neither are as talented as them.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 13 @ 4:14 PM ET
What could you say? we hope we can trade him?
- Canada Cup



You can trade Freddie but then what ... Lehner isn’t taking a discount .. he’s made that clear he wants his money.

Then Who...
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Aug 13 @ 4:14 PM ET
How exactly are they going to teach "will to win"? shouldn't that internal motivation already exist?

How do you teach them to play "grittier"? How do they learn, "desire"? i think either you have those things or you don't...
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 13 @ 4:15 PM ET
You can trade Freddie but then what ... Lehner isn’t taking a discount .. he’s made that clear he wants his money.

Then Who...

- dozerD10

Greiss + Mitch Korn.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 13 @ 4:17 PM ET
You can trade Freddie but then what ... Lehner isn’t taking a discount .. he’s made that clear he wants his money.

Then Who...

- dozerD10



Georgiev?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 13 @ 4:20 PM ET
You can trade Freddie but then what ... Lehner isn’t taking a discount .. he’s made that clear he wants his money.

Then Who...

- dozerD10


Trade Freddie for a 1st
Give Lehner Freddie money ( if he doesn’t win the cup he may be had for that or cheaper )

Or trade Freddie and Nylander for the best D available if we think it’s worth it

Sign Pieterangelo too if possible.

Something like this should help them for next year. JMO


dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 13 @ 4:20 PM ET
Georgiev?
- Steven_Seagull


Good call...
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 13 @ 4:23 PM ET
Georgiev?
- Steven_Seagull



Why does NY do that?
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 13 @ 4:23 PM ET
Greiss + Mitch Korn.
- AdamFrench



Or just bite the bullet with Campbell see if he can do it full-time..

Then trading Freddie for whatever becomes a win.. Leafs could really leverage that.
NewfieStud
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Aug 13 @ 4:24 PM ET
You can trade Freddie but then what ... Lehner isn’t taking a discount .. he’s made that clear he wants his money.

Then Who...

- dozerD10


Lehner had a few rough years of mental troubles and alcohol abuse and is on a great, clean path now. For continuation of his mental wellness, I don't think he would even remotely entertain the thought of signing in Toronto and have to live through that fishbowl!
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 13 @ 4:27 PM ET
US election going well

Trump campaign pulls birther card on Harris while Trump is closing Post Offices, removing sorting machines because counting votes is bad.

Biden just called for every Governor to issue 3 month mask mandate

Oh, and Michael Cohen's book talks about Trump and golden showers in Vegas
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Aug 13 @ 4:34 PM ET
How exactly are they going to teach "will to win"? shouldn't that internal motivation already exist?

How do you teach them to play "grittier"? How do they learn, "desire"? i think either you have those things or you don't...

- MisterBrown


Kessel didn't have any of those things.

Until he won a couple cups - then he suddenly did.

gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 13 @ 4:40 PM ET
Why does NY do that?
- Canada Cup

Shesterkin.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Aug 13 @ 4:43 PM ET
From the last blog Aethsie:



We agree on all of this.

- underhill14

I don't see how Matthews can possibly be criticized for his performance.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Aug 13 @ 4:44 PM ET
Why does NY do that?
- Canada Cup

It's no secret that the NYR plans to have Georgie as a backup the next few years. And unless he's included in a package for a 2C or an elite D, he'll stay.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 13 @ 4:44 PM ET
Kessel didn't have any of those things.

Until he won a couple cups - then he suddenly did.

- Leafs43


He didn’t become grittier, he went from the best player on a team and was keyed on by the other team to playing on the 3rd line of an awesome team.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 13 @ 4:45 PM ET
US election going well

Trump campaign pulls birther card on Harris while Trump is closing Post Offices, removing sorting machines because counting votes is bad.

Biden just called for every Governor to issue 3 month mask mandate

Oh, and Michael Cohen's book talks about Trump and golden showers in Vegas

- Canada Cup


I'm less concerned with the states and more concerned that our infrastructure minister in Canada can't account for 20,000 infrastructure projects accounting for billions in tax dollars.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 13 @ 4:45 PM ET
How exactly are they going to teach "will to win"? shouldn't that internal motivation already exist?

How do you teach them to play "grittier"? How do they learn, "desire"? i think either you have those things or you don't...

- MisterBrown


I hear players usually hit their peak at 22 and start declining

Nothing left to learn at that age, might as well hang up the skates
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 13 @ 4:46 PM ET
It's no secret that the NYR plans to have Georgie as a backup the next few years. And unless he's included in a package for a 2C or an elite D, he'll stay.
- 21peter

Where is The King waiving to?
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Aug 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
He didn’t become grittier, he went from the best player on a team and was keyed on by the other team to playing on the 3rd line of an awesome team.
- Garnie


There were certainly other factors.

But my point is regarding the narrative around the player. He was labeled as someone who can't win/doesn't care. Not unlike the way Nylander is now.

Maybe I just think writing off 22-24 year old players as perennial failures is moronic - especially when recent history has shown that similar players who were written off went on to have success.



Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Aug 13 @ 4:51 PM ET
Where is The King waiving to?
- AdamFrench


Edmonton
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