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- PT21

Just seeing that julien was taken to hospital with chest pain and is out for the series. Yikes. Hope he’s ok.

Yikes. Habs will be without Coach Julien rest of series. Had chest pains last night and was taken to hospital. Hopefully all is ok

I saw some ghost turnovers last night in he 2nd, albeit Montreal was pressing. I would like Hagg's physical presence as well.
- bmoreflyer

Line 2 played well - Meyers A+. Line 1 seemed to have had some issues with the pressure, but nothing to be to concerned about. Line 3... Ghost played average for him, he had some +/- during the game. I'm happy none of the negatives effected the score. I'm afraid every time there is a dump-in to Ghost side, that he'll be crushed. As for Braun, he seemed to have an off night. Again, not anything serious. I worried that the Ghost-Braun line combination might be the issue - just bad chemistry. Braun-Hagg although not flashy gets the job done and doesn't cause me stress in our own zone. I didn't like that AV seemed to be trying out different line combos during the game - or that may have been just bad line changes?

Yikes. Habs will be without Coach Julien rest of series. Had chest pains last night and was taken to hospital. Hopefully all is ok
- arichardson22

Yeah. What a shock.

Hey, we won last night!!! Isn't that great!? Discuss.
- jmatchett383

Obviously most agree that Hart was outstanding last night. And with Price's play, goals should be hard to come by in this series.
I thought Gostisbehere played pretty well, and the dynamic he brings is more suited to playing against Les Habitants than Hagg. I also thought Myers, whose concussions a couple years ago had me concerned we'd never see him play with the Flyers, was very good last night. Also, to me, Aube-Kubel played well enoough to keep JvR on the fourth line. He had three or four effective hits, hustled and forechecked pretty well.
The areas where improvement is required to have a long run have mostly been addressed. Two things I hope get pointed out by the coaches are 1) the ice is not likely to get better. Do not mess with the puck. If there is a chance to shoot, or to get the puck out of the defensive zone, take that opportunity! 2)I know he's big and mean, but he is about 35 years old, so I think it would benefit the Flyers to lay a hit on Weber on the forecheck as often as possible. They will cumulatively "age" him a little quicker (in theory, anyway).
Let's Go Flyers!!

Just seeing that julien was taken to hospital with chest pain and is out for the series. Yikes. Hope he’s ok.
- Hextall271

Good grief.

They would not say he is out for series unless something was discovered in tests. Either blockage or heart attack or something serious.

EDIT: could be also quarantine reasons. Hopefully its that and not medical reasons.

Line 2 played well - Meyers A+. Line 1 seemed to have had some issues with the pressure, but nothing to be to concerned about. Line 3... Ghost played average for him, he had some +/- during the game. I'm happy none of the negatives effected the score. I'm afraid every time there is a dump-in to Ghost side, that he'll be crushed. As for Braun, he seemed to have an off night. Again, not anything serious. I worried that the Ghost-Braun line combination might be the issue - just bad chemistry. Braun-Hagg although not flashy gets the job done and doesn't cause me stress in our own zone. I didn't like that AV seemed to be trying out different line combos during the game - or that may have been just bad line changes?
- leon neon

Ghost averaged 50 seconds per shift at 5-on-5 last night (53 seconds overall, incl PP); much of that in the second period, and by far the most on the Flyers. Too many long shifts. Got caved in puck possession (37.04% Corsi, -10.26 REL). Bad turnover over the middle.

The whole team struggled in that 2nd period and Ghost had some decent moments as well as bad ones, but he'll need to do better than that to stay in the lineup.

Then he needs to be benched for Hagg because him no hit.
- jmatchett383

There were times we got pushed around. Farabee got leveled, grant dumped in the net. We got out hit which takes a toll. I'm fine with ghost being in, but it does make some sense to start Hagg after what I saw last night.

Just seeing that julien was taken to hospital with chest pain and is out for the series. Yikes. Hope he’s ok.
- Hextall271

Ouch! I hope he is well as soon as possible.

Good grief.

They would not say he is out for series unless something was discovered in tests. Either blockage or heart attack or something serious.

EDIT: could be also quarantine reasons. Hopefully its that and not medical reasons.
- PT21

Beat me to it with your edit, but yeah hoping it’s just part of the quarantine rules. Assuming He left the bubble for the hospital, hed be a big risk for the teams health.

For what you are basing it on, you cant compare Hayes and JVR because they are two completely different roles, different positions, responsibilities and situations.

JVR is a LW who is low on the depth chart below guys like Giroux, Lindblom(When Healthy) and Laughton who has been playing great with Hayes.

Hayes is a Center. He is stepped into a a vacant 2nd line spot behind Couturier and lets be honest here. Without Hayes to step in at C, we would not be a playoff team. C was one of our biggest weaknesses last season. On top of that Hayes also spends a lot of time on PK. So if you look at point, yea they might look similar but when you factor everything else Hayes brings to the team, He looks more like a 7 mill player than JVR does

JVR is a good player but there was a reason why Toronto was OK with him leaving. He is a good player when he is surrounded by talent. Hayes drives the play. despite his slow speed, he skates past guy with the puck and generates his own offense. If I had to pick between keeping one of the 2 I pick Hayes all day
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

First let me apologize. Things calmed down in here I started it up again but I do like that most of you shrugged it off. With that being said, it doesn't matter if a player only plays purely in offensive situations or defensive situations. What matters is ice time. Sean Couturier, Mike Richards before couturier, they have the two way talent, they get the ice time, sometimes those defensive situations can turn into offensive points. Both have lead their team in points. Just because one player plays wing and the other plays center doesn’t mean they can’t be compared. “Well one takes faceoffs”, that a weak argument. Couturier and Giroux both take faceoffs while playing different positions.

The advantage is ice time first and the talent you play with.

Ghost averaged 50 seconds per shift at 5-on-5 last night at 5-on-5; much of that in the second period, and by far the most on the Flyers. Got caved in puck possession (37.04% Corsi, -10.26 REL). Bad turnover over the middle.

The whole team struggled in that 2nd period and Ghost had some decent moments as well as bad ones, but he'll need to do better than that to stay in the lineup.
- bmeltzer

I wouldn't watch playoff Hockey, if it wasn't a struggle - ok, maybe I would. Line 2 didn't appear to struggle that much - no one can be perfect.

My point may have gotten lost... A lot of times we talk about individuals (dmen esp.), without regards to their partner and the chemistry between them. There is a lot of talk to play ghost vs hagg... with little regard either players Chemistry with Braun.

This may be from left field. Any word on Moran? Is he done as a player, AHL'er or still has a legit chance with the Flyer in future years - if healthy?

Just seeing that julien was taken to hospital with chest pain and is out for the series. Yikes. Hope he’s ok.
- Hextall271

You never want to see anything like that. Nothing but well wishes for him and his family.

Flyers need to be ready to play. They are going to come out hard, as they should.

You never want to see anything like that. Nothing but well wishes for him and his family.

Flyers need to be ready to play. They are going to come out hard, as they should.
- Flyers1218

Yes. We still need to come out and get the job done here.

In what way? Dont get me wrong, I'm not criticizing the coach or team. I dont have a problem with how the coach is using them. I don't dislike Voracek or even JVR. I'm just saying that it's a pretty strange situation. They are both being paid like top players and they're not fitting into the top two lines. I dont know for a fact, but I feel that most $8.5 mil first line wingers who miss a couple of days because of injury (or illness) would go right back to their spot when they come back. He missed a few days. He hasn't been out for a month.
- Dkos

Voracek being moved to the 3rd line is a combination of Voracek coming off of an injury and looking to get offensive depth through the lineup. Farabee played well on the top line in the round robin. If he can continue to do that, he had a goal last night and Voracek can help a lower line get going offensively, then the Flyers are a deeper and better team. Those are the obvious reasons for the move rather than a 8.5M player not fitting into the top line. Farabee seems to play better on a top scoring line than he does on the 4th line. It's about balance.

First let me apologize. Things calmed down in here I started it up again but I do like that most of you shrugged it off. With that being said, it doesn't matter if a player only plays purely in offensive situations or defensive situations. What matters is ice time. Sean Couturier, Mike Richards before couturier, they have the two way talent, they get the ice time, sometimes those defensive situations can turn into offensive points. Both have lead their team in points. Just because one player plays wing and the other plays center doesn’t mean they can’t be compared. “Well one takes faceoffs”, that a weak argument. Couturier and Giroux both take faceoffs while playing different positions.

The advantage is ice time first and the talent you play with.
- SuperSchennBros

What’s you argument again? That JVR deserves more powerplay time?

Ghost averaged 50 seconds per shift at 5-on-5 last night (53 seconds overall, incl PP); much of that in the second period, and by far the most on the Flyers. Too many long shifts. Got caved in puck possession (37.04% Corsi, -10.26 REL). Bad turnover over the middle.

The whole team struggled in that 2nd period and Ghost had some decent moments as well as bad ones, but he'll need to do better than that to stay in the lineup.
- bmeltzer

I saw that as a team wide issue rather than Gostisbehere. I personally thought he was one of the better defenseman in the game last night behind Myers and Provorov.

I saw that as a team wide issue rather than Gostisbehere. I personally thought he was one of the better defenseman in the game last night behind Myers and Provorov.
- MJL

AV just said it was a mixed bag with Ghost "Bent a bit in the 2nd period, didn't break." Did like his 3rd period.

I think that's a fair assessment.

There were times we got pushed around. Farabee got leveled, grant dumped in the net. We got out hit which takes a toll. I'm fine with ghost being in, but it does make some sense to start Hagg after what I saw last night.
- bmoreflyer

Absolutely not. Who cares about any of that. The Habs are a quick team and they pressure the puck. We need Gostisbehere's elusiveness and puck skills.

AV just said it was a mixed bag with Ghost "Bent a bit in the 2nd period, didn't break." Did like his 3rd period.

I think that's a fair assessment.
- bmeltzer

We can say that about the entire team.

What’s you argument again? That JVR deserves more powerplay time?
- Flyers1218

I think he needs to play with talent to be effective. I think power play time could help. Also I feel Hayes and JvR have comparable offensive numbers. I understand Hayes sees defensive situations but he also sees offensive situations with more ice time.

Absolutely not. Who cares about any of that. The Habs are a quick team and they pressure the puck. We need Gostisbehere's elusiveness and puck skills.
- MJL

I agree. It’s not 90’s NHL out there. We’ve got guys who will stand up for their teammates if need be. It’s not something worth sitting Ghost for imo.

Absolutely not. Who cares about any of that. The Habs are a quick team and they pressure the puck. We need Gostisbehere's elusiveness and puck skills.
- MJL

I agree we should keep Ghost in but I think it’s ridiculous to turn a blind eye to how important physical play can be in a physical game. If we really want to talk about dominating players coming from last night, Shea Weber was one of those players last night.

Voracek being moved to the 3rd line is a combination of Voracek coming off of an injury and looking to get offensive depth through the lineup. Farabee played well on the top line in the round robin. If he can continue to do that, he had a goal last night and Voracek can help a lower line get going offensively, then the Flyers are a deeper and better team. Those are the obvious reasons for the move rather than a 8.5M player not fitting into the top line. Farabee seems to play better on a top scoring line than he does on the 4th line. It's about balance.
- MJL

Farabee adds some forechecking "jump" to line 1, that Voracek doesn't have. Not that this is any time to experiment... but I'd like to see how NAK would do with Claude and Coots (and Farabee-Grant-Jake at three)

I think he needs to play with talent to be effective. I think power play time could help. Also I feel Hayes and JvR have comparable offensive numbers.
- SuperSchennBros

They do have comparable numbers. Different types of players. One kinda drives play and the other picks up his points around the net. I’m not opposed to seeing JVR get more time on the powerplay though.

I guess what it comes down to is the coach is sending a message and figures JVR can handle it.